Editing Talk:New Super Mario Bros. Wii

==Powers Section==
It's nice to have a power-up section, but I don't think we should say "Fire Mario" considering you can play as Luigi and Toad as well. "Fire Flower", "Penguin Suit" and the likes should do it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:05, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

:Suits? could it be a SMB3 Remake??? [[User:Mrsdaisyluigi|Mrsdaisyluigi]] seems a bit wierd.
::No. A remake would stay true to the original. This game doesn't resemble SMB3 at all, just because it has some suits in it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:19, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
:How is it nescius?
Wait, you can be in a '''penguin suit?''' Can you hyperlink me a video from youtube that shows you.
--[[User:Superjump4|Superjump4]] 12:36, 2 August 2009 (EDT)[[User:Superjump4|Superjump4]]

==Koopalings==
i found a screenshot online which could mean the koopalings could fainally return. http://i43.tinypic.com/rqvfxz.jpg {{User:Mrsdaisyluigi/sig}}

Morton? Sweet, so, seeing Morton... Then there'll probably be Larry, Iggy, etc... But, will they still have Bowser Jr.? {{User:Master Crash/sig}}
: [[User:Magik|Magik]] I hope so.

The Koopalings are back!!!??? I. Am. Freaking. Sold. [[User:Majora999]]

Here is a video that shows the fight against Morton (better detail than in the other video):<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4NuJEBgS_o<br />
After being defeated, he jumps away just like Bowser Jr. in NSMB. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:54, 6 June 2009 (EDT)

Why in the world did they add two Toads as players 3 & 4 instead of Wario and Waluigi? [[User:Skeppio|Skeppio]] 14:30, 12 June 2009 (GMT +10)
:Because all characters have the same gameplay, so their bodies have the same shape. Wario is too big and Waluigi is too curvy to fit into the regular pattern. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:28, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

Wario fitted in fine in Super Mario 64 DS with only minor gameplay differences and Waluigi is thin and would weigh about the same as Mario & Luigi anyway. Besides, Mario and Luigi have always played slightly differently. Why the laziness now? Also, as a side note, Toads have a much greater body shape difference to Mario& Luigi than Wario & Waluigi do. [[User:Skeppio|Skeppio]] 22:30, 28 July 2009 (GMT +10)
:Is this from photobucket/Imageshack? {{User:Yoshiaga/sig}} 18:17, 21 September 2009 (EDT)
Hey, I just had an idea, you know how Luigi jumps higher and has worse traction than Mario, well what if the two Toads have similar concepts, like in SMB2. {{User:Timmy Tim/sig}}

==Larry Koopa Video==
This video features Mario and Luigi fighting Larry Koopa:<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLXIhpZeNco<br />
--[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:36, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
:That's good additionial confirmation. The battle seems to have the same structure as the Bowser Jr. battles in NSMB. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 10:37, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

:It reminds moar to SMB3 because Larry (and other possible Koopalings) carries a magic rod... :o {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

A better quality of the video, not just showing the fight, but the whole level:<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoeGeHl1mg<br />
It looks like as if Larry has a blue shell now. Well, Morton's shell doesn't seem to be gray anymore, either. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:55, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Maybe Koopalings can switch shells if they're tired of the old shell's color. [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]]

I hope bowser jr. is in this game also.  And isn't Mortan's nickname Bigmouth?
--[[User:Superjump4|Superjump4]] 19:51, 31 July 2009 (EDT)[[User:Superjump4|Superjump4]]

Bigmouth was Morton's name in the old cartoon series.--[[User:Fawfulfury65|fawfulfury65]] 22:40, 31 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

==Which Holiday?==
Which 2009 Holiday Is Going To come Out? Please Reply!!!!![[User:Elmopedia89|Elmopedia89]] 20:30, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:Please direct all conversation not relating to the improvement of this article to the [[forum:|forum]]. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
::"Holiday" is the American term for the Christmas holidays. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:39, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

==Toads==
A while ago I heard that the blue and yellow toads names were changed to Yvan (pronounced Ivan) and wolley (pronounced wally). I think we should change the names in the article but I'm not sure if these names are fake or not.--[[User:Fawfulfury65|Fawfulfury65]] 09:01, 20 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65
:Sounds quite random. Only add names when you find a proper source for them. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:05, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

If I remember, I think I saw that on IGN when the people were guessing the names for the Toads, unless you found some source that offically gave the Toads a name. -[[User:RedFire Mario|RedFire Mario]]
:Those names were [http://wii.ign.com/articles/994/994797p1.html made up] by IGN. Not official. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:58, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Yea. That was the IGN thing I was talking about. Those names are false Fawfulfury. -[[User:RedFire Mario|RedFire Mario]]

==Spin jump==
It says that Mario's spin jump returns in the article but I don't know where that info came from. I need more proof.--[[User:Fawfulfury65|Fawfulfury65]] 19:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65
:Check out gameplay videos like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wAEZZLPAo this one] and you can clearly see and hear players do spin jumps. They look a bit similar to the Star Spins in Galaxy. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:52, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes in the videos it shows Mario doing a spin jump to counter-attack an attack from a cloud enemy. {{unsigned|MasterBlaster3000}}

==Release Date==
I found from my nearest gamestop store that NSMBwii and SMG 2's release dates. Are they offical? NSMBWii is for 11/2/09 and SMG 2 is for 1/1/10. So can we put it up?
{{User:Booderdash/sig|Release dates}}
:We should wait for a confirmation of that. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:47, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:1/1/10 looks generic, hennes not. [[User:Lysdexia|Lysdexia]] 05:52, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Mariodsi:I heard on a youtube video some Nintendo staff told me Bowser is in the game.

:''The game will follow the traditional storyline of Princess Peach getting kidnapped by Bowser''. Doesn't that confirms Princess Peach and Bowser are in the game? [[User:Javier12345|Javier12345]] 19:35, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Miyamoto confirmed it in an interview. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:17, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

== Release date November ==

Play-Asia states it to be released this November [http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-z3-77-2-49-en-15-mario+and+luigi-70-3f8w.html here], possibly meaning the holiday could be Thanksgiving.
'''Edit:''' [http://www.amazon.ca/Nintendo-New-Super-Mario-Bros/dp/B002BRZ9G0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1249786556&sr=1-1 Amazon says] it will be released December 31, 2009 for Canada. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 20:42, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, So did GamersPro.----～～Mario240

Well then Amazon and GamersPro are wrong because we had the game in Canada the same day the Americans did. {{User|Lemmy Koopa Fan}}

WTF?! What are you saying,the game was realease in '''ALL''' America in November 15 ._____. .....--{{User:MATEOELBACAN/sig}} 18:29, 27 December 2009 (EST)

I guess... it's actually kind of perplexing... But I'm not sure about Mexico. {{User|Lemmy Koopa Fan}}

I'm sure that the game was released Mexico and '''Center America, South America'''...--{{User:MATEOELBACAN/sig}} 16:32, 31 December 2009 (EST)

== The Toads' Names ==

[http://wii.ign.com/objects/143/14354229.html IGN reveals] the Toads' have actual names. Wolley is Yellow Toad, and Yvan is Blue Toad. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 14:36, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

wrong, those are the fans opinions on what the names should be, read the entire thing {{unsigned|Purple Koopa Bro.}}

== Some More Enemies To Add ==

I just watched a video of nsmb wii at e3 and in the mountain stage there are tiny goombas, they jump around randomly and get knocked of the screen when mario touches them {{unsigned|MegaKoopa}}

:{{User|Platitudinous}} Give us a link to the video by typing <nowiki>[http://www.example.com link title]</nowiki> inserting the page's title and a title for the link like video.

== Toad's appearance ==

A trivia says "This is Toad's first playable appearance in a Mario platformer since Super Mario Bros. 2. "
I don't think it's correct because SMB2 had [[Toad]] the character, but these two are just generic [[Toad (species)|Toads]]. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:44, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

:Toads have multiple colors and forms.  In Super Mario Bros. 2, Toad only referred to a mushroom person with Red Spots and now it refers to any mushroom person. {{unsigned|Rouge2}}

== Box-Art? ==

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/detail.gsp?image=http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/11/13/00/02/02/1113000202915_500X500.jpg&product_id=12509589&iIndex=1&isVariant=false&corpCard=false&type=-9223372036854775808

Could this be the box art?
{{User|Luigi-Tron 3000}}
:Shouldn't it say "NTSC" on the box somewhere? All PAL games have "PAL" on the front of the cover next to the Nintendo logo. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:50, 18 September 2009 (EDT)

::It's official boxart, and no, that applies to PAL games only. {{User|Skawo93}}

:::Are you sure?,Nintendo hasn't say any about that,And the ESBR Logo are a little short...We need More Proof.--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 19:31, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

:::I sent them a mail, so, let's wait and see how they respond. -- [[User:Skawo93|Skawo93]]
On the other hand, it's pretty unlikely that Wal Mart mocks up their own fake box art. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:55, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Hmm..I think that we must wait for their respond (It could be Placeholder),before that we must keep the logo..,and in a part of the link it says "isVariant=false". --[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 16:10, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Nintendo responds:

"To tell you the truth, I don't know if that's the official box art for the game. However, as you may already know, the game is due to be released sometime before the end of 2009. No doubt, the official art will be revealed before then." (And then usual copy-paste stuff)

So, yeah, it doesn't confirm or deny anything...[[User:skawo93|skawo93]]

Yeah! Those people that answer E-mails at Nintendo can't help that much because they don't have that information yet. I think the cover is real, because of the new artwork of Luigi and the good background. I think we can keep the Box art on the article, but not yet at the top. If the cover art turns out to be fake we can always replace it. <br>
I also want to say that ''the logo of New Super Mario Bros. Wii is made by me'' to look almost exactly the same as the original logo. I made this logo to act as a stand-in until the game will be released. If somebody finds an official version of the logo (with a bit of quality), please replace the logo.
{{User:Arend/Sig}}

Well,keep the logo and leave that boxart in the section Box-Art and we shold wait for more information--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 20:54, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

A higher res boxart has been released.
[[:Image:3badc537.jpg]] {{unsigned|Jonny boi}}

Okay, but how do you know if it's the official one? [[User:Skawo93|Skawo93]] 13:15, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

The boxart is on Nintendo.com so it is 100% official! {{User|Fawfulfury65}}
:It could be temporary boxart used for promotional reasons. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

I think it isn't temporary. And if a newer updated box appears, we can reupload it. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

{{User|Platitudinous}} I also agree and have evidence. If you go to [http://www.nintendo.com/games/guide#qhardware=Wii&qesrbRating=&qplay=&qgenre=&qrelease=comingSoon& this link], you'll see that the boxes for games like SMG2 and Metroid: Other M have TEMP (temporary) on the lower-right corner, but this game's box does not.

Well,this is the official Box Art but maybe Nintendo could change it some later..--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 21:35, 2 October 2009 (EDT)

Highly unlikely. But, when I visited the EU Nintendo site, the New Super Mario Bros. Wii cover was still unknown. So European cover is unknown for now. <BR> 
'''Now something different.'''
The North American cover of New Super Mario Bros. Wii seems to be based on the Japanese cover of New Super Mario Bros. for DS and not the American. Most of the Japanese DS game cases are black, but the Japanese game cases of NSMB were yellow instead. This was not the case with the other versions of NSMB. In North America and Australia the case was still black and in Europe still transparent. Will the New Super Mario Bros. Wii case be red instead of white? And if so, will it only count for the Japan or also for the other regions? No information about this jet. {{User:Arend/Sig}}
:You called it Arend, the European cover is confirmed to have a red case. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:05, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

==Yoshi's Sounds==
{{User|Platitudinous}} I found a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wAEZZLPAo&feature=related video] and in the first 3 seconds, you hear the SMW noise when Mario gets on the yellow Yoshi.
:It's true but how does this help the article? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:06, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
::{{User|Platitudinous}} You're right, it's probably just a placeholder.

== Demo Play ==

Hey, on GameFAQs there's a topic called something like "Dang, this game won't play itself." It explains what demo play actually turned out to be in the link. Seems sort of useful. {{unsigned|Super Joshi 7}}

== New Trailer Bros. Wii ==

A new version of the E3 trailer was released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIE6IOey_Rw

[[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 01:50, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

:I just saw that like 1 hour ago. It's cool, I must have it!--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

AWSOME MUST HAVE NSMBW!!! {{user:gamer2.1/sig}}

== Tons of infos ==

http://kotaku.com/5374669/new-super-mario-bros-wii-preview-all-the-modes-all-the-chaos
Yay, Bowser Jr.
[[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 01:43, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

:now lets see... EPICNESS!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait now! these new features are awesome and well riding a Bone Rollercoaster thingy makes it more EPIC than any game EVA! EPICNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! W00T
::Thank you for the info. I think it's a good thing that Bowser Jr. has been confirmed. Hopefully, this game will solve the question whether we can call him a Koopaling or not, since they're all finally going to appear in one game. (no, please don't make a discussion out of this now.)- {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 05:43, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
[[User:Koopamadness]]
on a site they say word 2 will be a dezert(yust like orginal) i hope its true

== Red replaced by Pink? ==

I got a feeling that Nintendo replaced the Red Yoshi by a pink one (I don't like that!). If I see the new box art, the Blue Toad is riding a Pink Yoshi, while in the original artwork, it was first a Red one. Plus, in that new trailer where Nintendo made improvements, I see instead of a Red Yoshi a Pink one {{user:Arend/Sig}}

Maybe they only added the Pink Yoshi,I don't think they erased the Red Yoshi from the game.--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 15:50, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

Most likely they recolored the original artwork. The original one has a Red Yoshi jumping, but in the box-art, it seems like they edited the original one's feet to look like it's on the ground and recolored it. It doesn't mean they replaced it, though. Many box-arts feature things not actually in the game. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 17:57, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

== IGN Handson! ==

Lots off new info! Such as the Mini Mushroom will return, and a Ice Flower as a new power up.

[http://wii.ign.com/articles/103/1032770p1.html] [[User:Charmander|Charmander]]

== Bowser Jr. ==

I see Junior was added to the Enemies list. Source, if any? {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 16:39, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
:The source for Junior's appearance in the game is next to his entry in the Characters list. But that source doesn't confirm him as an enemy you fight in-game. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:52, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
::He is an enemy, as cited by a [http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9006374&publicUserId=5379721 different source] (it's at the bottom of the post.) It also says it was noticeable to see Iggy and Roy atop of their respective castles. World 1 is Larry, World 2 is Roy, and Iggy is World 3. As another note, Kamek appears in the game as well. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 18:00, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
Wait a sec, Iggy on a ball? They don't even show a image of Iggy! It sounds more like Lemmy, and they showed Lemmy from SMB3, not Iggy, unless Lemmy is now Iggy, but that would be odd, won't it? {{User:Luigi-Tron 3000}}
:Well, the three artworks at the site even show Larry, Roy, and Lemmy. It's likely that they mixed Lemmy and Iggy up somehow. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 08:06, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think it's just an image for the readers. If Roy is in-between the castles, they couldn't have gotten mixed up. If they did, one way or another, they're both at either world 1 or world 3. On top of that, it makes me hint Bowser Jr. will be the Koopaling for world 8 castle, along with the rest of them next to Bowser, or in a different castle in relation to Bowser. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 10:00, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That was me, I saw a Gonintendo article saying he was in it. [[User:DK Fan|The DK Fan]]

::::@Mechawave: That might possibly be true.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

== NSMBW Interview ==

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/?tag=topslot%3btitle%3b2

Starts at 19:45. Looks like with the ice power ups if you blast enemies under water they float up. You also see some new enemies. They say that some suits will return. You also see the world map. {{User|Luigi-Tron 3000}}

== Scans ==
[http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini_new2/2009/10/14/974/WAT_nsmbw_scan-2.jpg]<br>
[http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini_new2/2009/10/14/974/WAT_nsmbw_scan-3.jpg]<br>
[http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini_new2/2009/10/14/974/WAT_nsmbw_scan-1.jpg]<br>
note i didnt find these she did: http://supercaterina.deviantart.com/ {{unsigned|Kaialone}}

This is very good information. Good finding Kaialone and Super Caterina. Here are some things I noted.
*Pow-Blocks return.
*Like Super Mario Bros. 2 USA, Mario and Co. can grab things and throw them.
*Propeller Suit got a different look. Originally, it was just a P with a propeller, but now it's a mushroom with a propeller. I think they will call it a Propeller Mushroom.
*Artwork of the Koopalings including Bowser Jr. and Mario and Co.
*The Koopalings kidnap Princess Peach by hiding themselves in a cake.
*The Ice Flower is shown on this scans. No Penguin Suit is mentioned. Maybe they deleted the suit in flavor of the flower, but I don't think so.
*Larry is battled in a different location than in the e3 demo.
*Some Koopalings look a little different than in Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World.
*Airships appear and a Koopa Clown Car Jr.?
*Just like Super Mario Galaxy, spins can activate some switches.
*Boo’s look transparent in this game and Banzai Bill's apear.
*The overworld looks a lot like in New Super Mario Bros.
*Japanese release date is December 3th.
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i noticed that every Koopaling now seems to have a unique shell-colour {{User|Kaialone}}

Yeah, I noticed that too. Also an interesting thing to note: I once red on a Dutch website that New Super Mario Bros. Wii is going to be one of the most challenging Mario platformers, but with the new Super Guide it should be possible for everybody to beat the game. <br>{{User:Arend/Sig}}

i cant wait till the game comes out XD well i dont know japanese but if anyone know japanese it woild be nice if he or she translates the new info.I wonder if Nintendo is going to treat the koopalings as Bowsers kids or if theyre going to be super mean and treat them like minions  {{User|Kaialone}}

Woow... Iggy got a real makeover. Probaly because of his hair was almost identical with Lemmys... {{User|Charmander}}

Does anyone notice that Iggy is way taller now.

{{User:Mario64fanatic/sig}}

...and skinnier    {{User|Crackin355}}

:{{User|Platitudinous}} Is Iggy the one with the green hair?
::Yes. They might have changed the design so that all Koopalings have a unique appearance. Their shell colours have been changed as well. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 08:56, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

== Lemmy Battle ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqGpk3HU9YI

This must mean that the boss of world 3 is Lemmy! They say that he is on a ball and the field is ice, so it can't be Iggy! {{User:Luigi-Tron 3000}}

== "Earlier" boxart ==

In the logos and boxart section the is an image of the boxart and in the caption it says ""Earlier boxart" or something like that, but it's the same as the boxart right now. So, why is it called the "earlier boxart" when it's the same as the "current" boxart? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

It is almost the same, but it has only English text on it. The current has English, French and Spanish. Also the Earlier boxcover has the ESRB RP logo instead of E. {{User:Arend/sig}}

==Super Skills movie==
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/wii/super_skills_movie_14800.html
This video will show some items, levels, tricks to get more lives etc. {{User:Arend/sig}} Edit: The same movie is also on the American site.

== Special Edition? ==

These pictures are from GoNintendo:

*[http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/344203ps_500h.jpg]
*[http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/344203ss1_502w.jpg]
*[http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/344203ss2_502w.jpg]

I couldn't find any info on these. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:50, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
:What's that thing on top of the game in the 3rd picture? Also, I think I heard of there being a special edition for this game, but it could have been another game that I heard about. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
::Isn't Japan supposed to debut new Wiimote colors with the game? The 3rd image sure looks Wiimote-shaped at the top. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 18:00, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The first picture clearly shows a cover with a [[PEGI]] symbol, and the pictures are supposedly from a British gaming site. Though I still wasn't able to find GoNintendo's blog post on this topic. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:08, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

== Intro ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZYPIGNYD9E

We can also see the koopalings' new shell colors. Also it looks like Morton is now the biggest koopaling now. {{User:Luigi-Tron 3000}}

I've uploaded the Intro! It's really funny =P! {{User:Vini64/sig}}

The intor is so funny and it explains how The Penguin Suit and Propeller Shroom got into the world. Although i went and watched it on youtube because IGN is slow {{User|Crackin355}}



== North American Box? ==
[[Image:NSMBWIIREDFOTO.jpg]]<br>
Does this picture say enough? The North American box also has a red Wii frame. But on the website of Nintendo America, the show the box with a white frame and another with a red frame. I say we keep the boxcover we have now on top of the page and if a newer version comes up, we reupload it. {{User:Arend/sig}}
:Yes, I noticed that a while ago and put it in the article already. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:43, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
::I uploaded the real box art with red frames, but somebody replaced it with its white-framed one. I say we change it back. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 17:50, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

No I think it should stay the same because we aren't exactly sure. If the red frame is seen in other wesites such as Walmart.com or Gamestop.com then we should put it on. {{user:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:Why? That's an awful reason. It's going to be sold in stores with red frames, the official site has red frames for its box art, Amazon has it, Game Trailers has it, etc. Walmart still has the old version of the box art. When the box art was released, no one knew it would have red frames until the picture above was released. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 18:28, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

Ok '''now''' that there's more websites that show the red frame so that should be added. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== Ice Bro ==
In teh enmeies it says a Hammer Bro with a light blue shell that shoots snowballs. they are in a picture down the bottom and are called "Ice Bro". shouldnt we change it? I would change it but i cant somehow? {{User|Crackin355}}
:It's a conjectural name (but I'm not doubting it's its official name). I personally think we should just merge all the sub-species of Hammer Bros. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 09:53, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

==More information==
While Nintendo Power said the Nunchuck can be used in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, [http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=101614 the ''Official Nintendo Magazine'' confirms the Nunchuck can't be used.]<br>
Here are some interesting pages over New Super Mario Bros. Wii by the Official Nintendo Magazine. They answer questions about the game fans asked them.
[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12629]
[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12639]
[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12641]<br>

EDIT: The game does support the Nunchuck. The Official Nintendo Magazine said the made a error in their report. Use the control stick to walk, A to jump and B to sprint.
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== Daisy, Wario, Toadette Trivia proof ==
"The magazine claims that Wario, Daisy, and Toadette will also be in the game. However, the official website says that there aren't any more characters. The statement that they would be in is most likely a joke, as lots of people ask for them even if they know no more characters will be in." Is this part of the trivia even true and worth placing on the trivia for now when they said no other characters are in?
[[User:Pichufan93|Pichufan93]]

:It may most likely be a cameo appearnce.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

:: They might have something to do with the 4 extra bosses! {{User|Crackin355}}

:::Four...extra bosses? i haven't heard about that? Do you know details?--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

:::: On these pages 
[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12629]
[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12639]
[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12641] <br>
One of them says that there is 20 bosses and there is two bosses for each world, World 1-7 are the Koopalings fought twice and World 8 is most likeley Bowser Jr. and Bowser. That makes 16 and there is 4 left. If it isnt on these, I red it on something else that i cant remember. {{User|Crackin355}}

:I see, hopefully there are cameo appearances from past bosses, y'know like Wart and Smithy, and also did you see the look of Thwomps on link number 11...they look...weird...--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

:: I think they only look weird when they are rising upwards {{User|Crackin355}}

:::The middle one! O_e...Hopefully these are a sub-species because they look more metallic than rocky.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

:::  The Middle one is rising otherwise it would look like the ones on the sides of it. {{User|Crackin355}}

::::Yeah, I'm just stating that the spikes and the body look kinds more metallic than usual.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

:::::Click on the picture and a bigger one will come up and they look EXACTLY the same {{User|Crackin355}}

How does having four more bosses prove that Daisy, Wario, and Toadette are in this game? Also, in the Japanese version of Super Mario Bros. 2 there are hidden worlds to get if you don't use warp pipes and I believe earlier that Shigeru Miyamoto said that there is something special for people who don't use the super guide mode in NSMBWii. That special thing could be two extra worlds- which can have four more bosses. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

:I never thought of it that way...Youre most likely right! :) {{User|Crackin355}}

::Also note that [[Super Mario World]] had hidden bosses. In some ghost houses, by finding a secret exit, Mario had to fight a [[Big Boo]] and some bonus fortresses had a [[Reznor]] as boss. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

i think that petey pirana & king boo will be 2 of the secret bosses

maybe even gomboss/mega goomba mecha bowser maybe, very unlikely {{unsigned|Ninja32}}

People! Sorry to burst your bubbles, but I think you've got it wrong. There are 20 boss battles, but no extra or unlockable bosses. Each Koopaling fought twice in a world for Worlds 1-7, so 14 boss battles. Bowser Jr. fought three times in the airship(Worlds 4,6&8) making 17 boss battles. Then Kamek in W8-Castle, boss 18. And in Bowser's Castle, Bowser and the new, even bigger Giant Bowser(bigger than in M&L:BiS). 20 bosses, all in Worlds 1-8. World 9 has no bosses, just eight tough-as-nails levels, for Giant Bowser is last boss of the game. {{User:Frostyfireyoshi/sig}}

==WORLD 9==
Nintendo Week slipped the secret!
They started a file from World 9. They didn't show any footage from it, but still.
[[User:Skawo93|Skawo93]] 14:24, 2 November 2009 (EST)

==boss battles==
it has been hinted that the final boss battle will be a spoof of another battle in the series but which one?
It might happen to be like the bowser super mario world battle in the clown cart but with bowser jr. Well I hope it's not the new super mario bros ds one with all the koopalings, bowser& bowser jr 
Also after looking at this page i can clearly tell that it has been hinted 4 more boss battles. This may be because he success of the idea of nonkoopa related boss battles in nsmb ds.
I was thinking that it could be (from most likely to least) petey pirana, king boo, goomboss, wario, bambam, waluigi, and mechabowser. also people are saying that this means two new worlds, well maybe the battles just secret like world 4&7 or unlocked like cannons and warp pipes. Also maybe there is a possibility that they're not secret like ghost house bosses. it has been said that a reward will be given out to those who don't use the super guide. maybe thats what it is. maybe they're in this so called world nine thats been rumored so often or maybe even some of these rumors combined. please write comments with any theories. {{unsigned|Ninja32}}

The Official Nintendo Magazine confirmed King Boo and Petey Piranha won't be bosses. 
I think you can travel to world 9 by collecting Star Coins or by not using Super Guide. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

With the statement that there are four hidden bosses in this game, that really makes you question who they are.  I'd be surprised if characters such as [[Hookbill Koopa]] and [[Naval Piranha]] made a return.  And of course, there's [[Dry Bowser]] as well. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 13:30, 6 November 2009 (EST)

Hey since there is a Giant Bowser that appears as the final boss the so it could be a spoof of Giga Bowser or Koop Zilla? {{User:GalacticPetey/sig}}

I have an answer. Go up two sections. It should clear things up about boss battles. {{User:Frostyfireyoshi/sig}}

== Nintendo Week ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQUfHClD8rM

Here you guys will find Shigeru Miyamoto playing, Coin Battle mode menu and World 9 revealed! Watch it :D! {{User:Vini64/sig}}

==The Difference between the Ice Flower and The Penguin Suit==

I have see some videos of New Super Mario Bros Wii and I see when Penguin Mario Shot an Ice Ball with penguin suit and if the enemy can fly, it stop a moment in the air also the ability to slip on the ground, and when Ice Mario shot an Ice Ball the enemy fall instantly to the ground.
Example: Penguin Suit: The paratroopa that was frozen in the first video
Ice Flower: The Frozen Pokeys in the super skill video<br>
{{User|Kingbooregard}}

I know some more: Penguin Mario throws ice balls that seem to be weaker than Ice Mario's: after a time, freeze will break, when there are weak enemies frozen, they turn into coins (like Fire Mario's fireballs) but enemies as piranha plants won't turn into coins: the Piranha plant stays itself, without minding being frozen at all. My bro has discovered this. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

Also, with the Penguin Suit, you can swim a lot better and faster, like the Frog Suit from SMB3. {{User:Vini64/sig}}

== Proof? ==
Where was it actually confirmed that the Koopalings, apart from Larry, Roy and Lemmy, would be appearing in those worlds? Not denying it, just wanted to know where the information was found. {{User|Fawful 666}}

Official artwork and stuff from Nintendo Power. I'm surprised you asked since it seems so obvious by all the info we've been given. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== More artwork ==

There is more artwork here: [http://www.perezstart.com/screenshots/new-super-mario-bros-wii-screenshots-1-up-quality/8674/]. I'd upload some of them, but I don't have enough time so could someone do it for me? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:That's not artwork, those are screenshots, and I think we already have more than enough of those in the article. We should single out some superflous ones before we add another bunch. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:30, 7 November 2009 (EST)
::Oops... I meant to say screenshots 0_o {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== Enemies ==
Where did all the new enemies come from. Mr. Blizzard, Magikoopa, Mecha-Koopa, Gray Bowser Statues, Unnamed Piranha Plant enemy with legs? Could I have some proof that they are in the game please. {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}
:Magikoopas and Mecha-Koopas were confirmed in interviews. But I don't know for the others. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 16:30, 8 November 2009 (EST)

:Unnamed Piranha plants with legs were also confirmed, screenshot at the official website.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

::{{User|Platitudinous}} I've seen all of the levels but I haven't seen any Bowser statue enemies.

== The Whole OST Ripped ==

All the music from the game has been ripped by a guy on YouTube. They're not all uploaded yet, but view the current ones [http://www.youtube.com/user/TimmyTurnersDad here]. --[[User:MechaWave|MechaWave]] 00:48, 9 November 2009 (EST)


==How the heck...==

You guys are GENIUS or something! How do you know all-a this?!?!?!

~~{{User:lolcats124/sig}}
:we r jeniuz 111!!!1 ; More seriously: leaked ISO, pirating, game released before street date, and there you go. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 15:41, 10 November 2009 (EST)


==mario just got hardcore==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiXU4xepqvI
OMFG!!! can this really be??? hardcore, well thought through, unexpected, original boss battle... IN A 2D MARIO GAME??? also cool credits.
 It's funny how bowser jr looks really pissed off in a way that makes him look like he's saying "GET THE HELL UP YOU GREAT BIG PILE OF S***" to larry.
epic music
:If this is what you think, then Mario is hardcore since [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]. Why do you say that here, anyway ? It's not a forum. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 01:15, 12 November 2009 (EST)

Dude, watch the language! Anyways, does anybody notice how the final boss in NSMBW is like the final boss in Yoshis Island? Y'know like with Kamek flying in and making Bowser giant and then you have to do a bunch of stuff before he gets too close. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:{{User|Platitudinous}} That's what Miyamoto meant when he said, "The final boss will seem like a parody of a prievous fight in the series."

== Japanese Box ==
[[Image:C20091109_mario_01_cs1w1_453x640.jpg|thumb]]

== More New Art ==
[[Image:I 20748.jpg|thumb|left|Spike]]
[[Image:I_20751.jpg|thumb|left|Front group shot.]]
[[User:Panchito|Panchito]]

:: On a side note, I got word via GoNintendo that NOA's press room has gotten those same arts in their hi-res "source versions". Someone who has access get at them A.S.A.P.! Especially in terms of the art of Peach. I AND OTHER PEACH SUPPORTERS NEED IT!!! --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:43, 13 November 2009 (EST)

==Koopaling Fights==
{{User|Platitudinous}} [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_4x5DssEQE&feature=video_response This video] and its sequel have all of the Koopaling and Bowser Jr. fights.

== Image Overkill ==

I think we overdid it a bit with all the images at the article bottom. Could we remove/relocate some of them? It's clearly too much in this state. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 02:00, 16 November 2009 (EST)

:Move some to their corresponding world when they are created.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

== World Names ==

Right now I'm in World 5 of my game, and I have yet to see any of the worlds referred to by the names given on this article. Where exactly were they obtained? {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 22:31, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Good Question as I myself have just beaten World 4, and haven't seen names either.
[[User:Lemmy Koopa617|Lemmy Koopa617]]

I was going to ask this question but you beat me to it. also... one of my nicknames is Dodo like your Username. {{User|Crackin355}}

:Probably an official guide somewhere.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
::It might tell you after you beat the game during the credits, like in SMB3. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:::It doens't. I've beaten and it's just a staff roll. I though those names were from the official guide, but looks like they aren't... {{User:Vini64/sig}}
::::So... should we change them to world 1 (NSMBW) and so on? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

:::::I dont really care. They are good names though. {{User|Crackin355}}

::::::Gamefreak, the names popped up before the game (and therefore the guide) was released, so that's not right. I'm going to move them to World 1 (New Super Mario Bros. Wii) and so on. {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 15:12, 18 November 2009 (EST)

{{User|Platitudinous}} Platitudinous comes to the rescue with the world names from the Prima strategy guide!

World 1: Princess Peach's Kingdom

World 2: Desert World

World 3: Frozen World

World 4: Water World

World 5: Jungle World

World 6: Rock World

World 7: Cloud World

World 8: Bowser's World

Also, the vine enemy in 5-3 is called a Bramball, the cloud enemy in 7-5 is called a Foo, and the giant Bullet Bills in 9-8 are called King Bills.

{{User|Boo Destroyer}} Ehh, I still like the ones that were there better. These don't sound very......creative, in comparison.

I don't know why I'm asking, because it's too obvious, but... The World 9 name is Rainbow World? {{User:Vini64/sig}}

Um... I heard that the prima strategy guide sometimes has fake info... {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

:{{User|Platitudinous}} Yeah, it referred to the Koopa Clown Cars as "carriages" and called the Propeller Mushroom a "Propellerhead Power-Up," but I don't know where the world names on the page came from.

I don't know about that but they ''are'' prone to using unofficial or incorrectly translated names. my NSMB Wii guide calls Kamek "Magikoopa" numerous times, however this is most likely a error in translation because Magikoopa is always called Kamekku in Japanese.
[[User:Lemmy Koopa617|Lemmy Koopa617]]

==Brazilian Date==

Hey guys, NSMB Wii got released here (Brazil) in November 16. Should we put it in the article? {{User:Vini64/sig}}

You can put it on the article if you want. I can't think a reason why we shouldn't put it on the article. {{User:Arend/sig}}

Well..In part you are right,but..The American Release was in 15-Nov,and Brazil is part of America (South America),so I think that isn't necessary because the games usually realases 1 day later in the rest of America.--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 19:11, 17 November 2009 (EST)

:True, my stupid Wal-Mart didn't have Bowser's Inside Story until the 15th when it was supposed to be released the 14th. :/ --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

::Same here with BiS at Gamestop... Anyways, I kind'a agree with MATEOELBACAN, South America always gets games the day after the US release, and doesn't Canada too? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
::: So, should I put it? {{User:Vini64/sig}}

::::I suggest not to because sometimes, shipments come late...--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

==Just a few questions==

Where did you find out every enemy name?

Where are you getting all that new artwork?

-Boo Destroyer

Probably the internet {{User|Crackin355}}

Edit: So there's a guide around and Prima made it, right? I don't see it in any GameStop myself... {{unsigned|Boo Destroyer}}

==A discovery, I think==

I don't know if anyone knows about this, but...

When you use a Star on the map and move around on it, this will immediately KO any enemies on the map, without having to deal with them in an Enemy Course.

If it has been known already, my mistake...

[[User:Boo Destroyer|Boo Destroyer]] 00:21, 24 November 2009 (EST)

I found hat out yesterday... wasnt good for me though... I needed mushrooms {{User|Crackin355}}

:XD I never use my stars. I have like 15 O_O.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

(Side note: Magikoopas aren't in this game as enemies.) [[User:Boo Destroyer|Boo Destroyer]] 00:31, 24 November 2009 (EST)

:Well, I have 98 Mushrooms, so I don't need to worry xD {{User:Vini64/sig}}

::Yeah but Kamek is a Magikoopa. And you fight him in world 8 just like if he were a normal Magikoopa. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

:::{{User|Platitudinous}} Yeah, just to point it out... HE'S A BOSS.

== hey add kamek's new super mario bros. wii artwork to the article ==

the new super mario bros. wii needs kamek's artwork {{unsigned|Raushad}}

What artwork? [[User:Purple Koopa Bro.|Purple Koopa Bro.]]

I don't think Kamek has an artwork. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== Gallery? ==

Does this game qualify for a gallery sub-article? I think the amount of artwork of the heroes and the items is a bit too much. {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 00:23, 27 November 2009 (EST)

: That mainly applies to character articles like Mario, Princess Peach, Bowser, etc. Game installment articles don't really count if I can recall correctly. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 01:43, 27 November 2009 (EST)

:: Actually, [[Super Mario Bros. 3]] has a Super Mario Bros. 3/Gallery. In fact, that's the only thing that prompted me to suggest this. {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 10:51, 27 November 2009 (EST)

::: There's a Super Mario 64/Gallery for ''Super Mario 64'' as well. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:01, 27 November 2009 (EST)

Where is the artwork of <s>[[Mushroom]]</s> <s>and [[Glow Block]]</s>? They are on the official site ya know. {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}

== Trivia section ==

''Remakes, Super Paper Mario, etc. aside, New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the first sidescrolling Mario title to hit a home console, since Super Mario World for the SNES, released 18 years prior.''<br>This line should probably be changed to: ''Super Paper Mario aside, New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the first sidescrolling Mario title to be developed for a home console since Super Mario World for the SNES, released 18 years prior.'' [[User:JesseRooA22|Jesse]][[User talk:JesseRooA22|Roo]]

''"This is also the first game where Kamek appears alongside the Koopalings''' or Bowser Jr.'''"''
This is not that true, because Kamek and Bowser Jr. appeared together in Mario Party DS, although they never directly interact with each other.
Shall we edit this?[[User:Ludwig van Koopa|Ludwig van Koopa]]

== SMG ==
Do you think this is a prequel to Galaxy? {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}
:Now what gave you that idea? {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
...Precuel?, Why, what have to do this history with SMG?--{{User:MATEOELBACAN/sig}} 17:15, 7 January 2010 (EST)

No. Why do you think that? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

This is not a prequel to Super Mario Galaxy. Super Mario Galaxy is a completely different game. This is rather a sequel to New Super Mario Bros. for the DS. Super Mario Galaxy is the sequel to Super Mario Sunshine. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
:Exactly, then I think that the template is no longer need--{{User:MATEOELBACAN/sig}} 17:23, 9 January 2010 (EST)

::Then why does Peach say at the end that she'll meetMario at he Star Festiva? {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}

:::Probably a yearly thing...--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}

::::What do you mean? {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}

Supermariofan14: It's a reference to Super Mario Galaxy, the star festival thing. It's nothing to do with the actual game, since it's part of the music in the credits. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

NSMB Wii has nothing to do with SMG. -Rosalina1234

==New Year image?==
I have a New Year image drawing (much like Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story one) that isn't uploaded yet. Should I upload it, or not? {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
:It's a little late for that. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::But something is something, I think that I can be uploaded after all.--{{User:MATEOELBACAN/sig}} 17:21, 9 January 2010 (EST)

==Editing==
Why I can't editing this page? --[[User:Mikiuz|Mikiuz]] 08:37, 5 February 2010 (EST)
:This page has been partially protected because of past vandalism. Sometimes people register here only to deface this article. ATM, only older users can edit it. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 08:43, 5 February 2010 (EST)
But I do not want it worse! How long will I wait? --[[User:Mikiuz|Mikiuz]] 08:45, 5 February 2010 (EST)
:If I can believe our system, then you will get auto-confirmed after one week. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 08:58, 5 February 2010 (EST)
Ha! OK! --[[User:Mikiuz|Mikiuz]] 10:48, 5 February 2010 (EST)

==HUH?!==
Who added Super Mario Galaxy trailer on here?! - {{User:Fuzzipede27/sig}} 23:52, 1 June 2010 (EDT)

== Taiwan ==

This is the first real game actually being translated... (Others being Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii sports 2, and Wii Fit 2...)
{{unsigned|Kryptopyro13}}

== boxart ==

how come the boxart in this article is the Australian version? It should be the America boxart. [[User:Wii Fan|Wii Fan]] 02:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:The Australian version was the first english version released. We always use the first engligh release for the title and the boxart. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}

== World Select Map ==

Shouldn't we get an image with all 9 worlds unlocked? --[[User:Frankjohnson123|Frankjohnson123]] 18:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== The Useless Trivia ==

What is so useless about that Mario or Luigi take of their cap if they get 99 lives? It is important information because if someone who is familiar with NSMBWii, will not be able to find out about a great easter egg. We must always supply info suffecient enough as if it were for someone who is not familiar with what the article is about.--[[User:Holyromanemperortatan|Holyromanemperortatan]] 02:01, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

: I believe it's actually covered in "Glitches". It's best placed in that area instead of Trivia. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 02:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about that MC!--[[User:Holyromanemperortatan|Holyromanemperortatan]] 02:17, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that was intended as a glitch, so it would fit better under Trivia in my opinion.--{{User|Knife}} 15:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

: The problem is, Knife, that is really isn't something that HAS to be mentioned. People have tried to place it in before in that section, but it still isn't something that's really noteworthy. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 19:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, this "noteworthy" thing is mostly subjective. I find Mario losing his cap when he gets 99 lives something interesting. It's not something you would really expect. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} 00:59, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese sales ==

Why do we need that info? It wasn't ever created in japan! {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}