Editing Talk:Necky
From the Super Mario Wiki, the Mario encyclopedia
Jump to navigationJump to search
The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.
| Latest revision | Your text | ||
| Line 20: | Line 20: | ||
== Are the Buzzards really Neckys? == | == Are the Buzzards really Neckys? == | ||
{{talk}} | |||
Here's something that has been bugging me: the Buzzards from ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'' are listed as Neckys, but have they ever been confirmed to ''be'' Neckys? The Buzzards look a little more like standard cartoon vultures than Neckys specifically to me. I understand some enemies underwent redesigns, such as [[Puftup]], but it's a bit weird that this is supposedly the only case where a pre-existing enemy was renamed for DK64 (unless you count [[Kaboom]]s being called "TNT Bombers" in the Prima guide). [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 00:09, February 1, 2024 (EST) | Here's something that has been bugging me: the Buzzards from ''[[Donkey Kong 64]]'' are listed as Neckys, but have they ever been confirmed to ''be'' Neckys? The Buzzards look a little more like standard cartoon vultures than Neckys specifically to me. I understand some enemies underwent redesigns, such as [[Puftup]], but it's a bit weird that this is supposedly the only case where a pre-existing enemy was renamed for DK64 (unless you count [[Kaboom]]s being called "TNT Bombers" in the Prima guide). [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 00:09, February 1, 2024 (EST) | ||
:: Yeah, I don't think so, either. They look so different from regular Neckies and there's also the fact that we refer to the "Buzzards" in Donkey Kong Barrel Maze as Neckies as well despite the fact that they look like regular vultures in that game. Plus, as for pre-existing enemies being renamed, only the manual calls Gnawties by that name as everything else (including the game) refers to them as Beavers. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:58, February 2, 2024 (EST) | :: Yeah, I don't think so, either. They look so different from regular Neckies and there's also the fact that we refer to the "Buzzards" in Donkey Kong Barrel Maze as Neckies as well despite the fact that they look like regular vultures in that game. Plus, as for pre-existing enemies being renamed, only the manual calls Gnawties by that name as everything else (including the game) refers to them as Beavers. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:58, February 2, 2024 (EST) | ||
| Line 25: | Line 26: | ||
== Split ''Donkey Kong 64'''s Buzzard from Necky == | == Split ''Donkey Kong 64'''s Buzzard from Necky == | ||
{{ | {{TPP}} | ||
This is an equivalence that I don't really understand. It's never been confirmed to be a Necky to my knowledge; really, the assumed connection seems to be based solely on the fact that it resembles a Necky, as though Neckys are the only cartoon vultures to have a white tuft around their neck and a bald-looking head. Also keep in mind that the two Buzzards only appear in [[Angry Aztec]], a desert, not unlike how it is a common trope for buzzards to be found in desolate wastelands. | This is an equivalence that I don't really understand. It's never been confirmed to be a Necky to my knowledge; really, the assumed connection seems to be based solely on the fact that it resembles a Necky, as though Neckys are the only cartoon vultures to have a white tuft around their neck and a bald-looking head. Also keep in mind that the two Buzzards only appear in [[Angry Aztec]], a desert, not unlike how it is a common trope for buzzards to be found in desolate wastelands. | ||
| Line 36: | Line 36: | ||
'''Deadline''': February 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT | '''Deadline''': February 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT | ||
=== Merge Buzzard into Buzzard (character), rename to | === Merge Buzzard into Buzzard (character), rename to Buzzard (''Donkey Kong 64'') === | ||
#{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per proposal. | #{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per proposal. | ||
=== Split enemy Buzzard into its own article === | === Split enemy Buzzard into its own article === | ||
=== Do nothing === | === Do nothing === | ||
=== Comments === | === Comments === | ||
| Line 56: | Line 49: | ||
I'm really unsure if merging the racing Buzzard with the enemy Buzzard is a good idea. The racing Buzzard looks quite different from the enemy Buzzard, with the racing Buzzard having brown feathers instead of black ones (with gray tips on its wings and tailfeathers), a purple-tipped beak instead of a red-tipped one, a slightly more vibrant pink skin complexion, friendly eyes with white sclera and yellow irises instead of menacing yellow eyeballs with tiny pupils, and most notably, an aviator helmet and goggles, with the enemy Buzzard doesn't have. Its appearance may be derived from an enemy Buzzard, but it's made distinct enough to be its own character. And if we have a separate article for [[Koopa the Quick]], which is essentially just a bigger [[Koopa Troopa]] that doesn't even have a unique name in Japanese, then I don't see why we should merge this Buzzard character which appearance clearly differs from the enemy Buzzard. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:00, February 4, 2024 (EST) | I'm really unsure if merging the racing Buzzard with the enemy Buzzard is a good idea. The racing Buzzard looks quite different from the enemy Buzzard, with the racing Buzzard having brown feathers instead of black ones (with gray tips on its wings and tailfeathers), a purple-tipped beak instead of a red-tipped one, a slightly more vibrant pink skin complexion, friendly eyes with white sclera and yellow irises instead of menacing yellow eyeballs with tiny pupils, and most notably, an aviator helmet and goggles, with the enemy Buzzard doesn't have. Its appearance may be derived from an enemy Buzzard, but it's made distinct enough to be its own character. And if we have a separate article for [[Koopa the Quick]], which is essentially just a bigger [[Koopa Troopa]] that doesn't even have a unique name in Japanese, then I don't see why we should merge this Buzzard character which appearance clearly differs from the enemy Buzzard. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:00, February 4, 2024 (EST) | ||
:At least Koopa the Quick has a unique (English) name, though; if it weren't for that, it probably would be merged with Koopa Troopa. There's also many, many more Koopa Troopas other than Koopa the Quick, but only two Buzzards, both of which are involved in special events that give the player a [[Golden Banana]], regardless of their differing roles and appearances. It just seems like a hassle to have one article for a one-time enemy, and then have another article for the "notable member" of this one-time enemy's species, especially when they both have the same name. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 20:31, February 4, 2024 (EST) | :At least Koopa the Quick has a unique (English) name, though; if it weren't for that, it probably would be merged with Koopa Troopa. There's also many, many more Koopa Troopas other than Koopa the Quick, but only two Buzzards, both of which are involved in special events that give the player a [[Golden Banana]], regardless of their differing roles and appearances. It just seems like a hassle to have one article for a one-time enemy, and then have another article for the "notable member" of this one-time enemy's species, especially when they both have the same name. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 20:31, February 4, 2024 (EST) | ||
