Editing Talk:NES Remix Pack

So, if this comprises both NES Remixes, the article should have all the challenges from both games? {{User:Tsunami/sig}}

Maybe, but I honestly don't know... {{User:Whitey/sig}}


Does this image help?  {{User:Whitey/sig}}
[[File:NESRemixPacktitlescreen.jpeg|thumbnail]]

== Is this page needed? ==

The wiki covers NES Remix series as a guest appearance, and we have a policy against making pages for X-in-one releases. [[User:Spectrogram|Spectrogram]] ([[User talk:Spectrogram|talk]]) 10:14, April 18, 2023 (EDT)
:I guess it's borderline? We have a page on [[Ultimate NES Remix]], which is also just a compilation game of both NES Remix games, but not complete like this one. I can see this page staying or getting removed honestly. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:06, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
::Ultimate NES Remix is more of a mix-up of select minigames, and it also includes Speed Mario Bros. This one is just a two-in-one package [[User:Spectrogram|Spectrogram]] ([[User talk:Spectrogram|talk]]) 01:02, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
:::I think ''[[Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move + Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again!]]'' is very similar too.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 12:12, April 21, 2023 (EDT)
::::At the very least it's a ''Mario'' game. [[User:Spectrogram|Spectrogram]] ([[User talk:Spectrogram|talk]]) 14:20, April 21, 2023 (EDT)
:I think the Mario-related content is significant enough to warrant this page staying (Mario-related content makes up about 50% of the content in the two games combined.) Plus, with the Wii U eShop closing, this collection is the only way to buy these games, raising its significance further. [[User:Whitey|Whitey]] ([[User talk:Whitey|talk]]) 20:28, August 30, 2023 (EDT)
Old, but I agree this page should stay. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 09:07, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
:I think this should be merged to [[NES Remix (series)]]. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 09:17, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
::Then should we merge [[Ultimate NES Remix]] to [[NES Remix (series)]] too? [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 09:20, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
:::I think it has more grounds for staying, since it specifically chooses which parts of the first two ''NES Remix'' games are retained, whilst ''NES Remix Pack'' is just literally a compilation of the first two. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 09:23, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
::::Then shouldn't we get rid of [[Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move + Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again!]]? [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 09:24, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
:::::The difference is that's an actual ''Super Mario'' game, rather than a game with some ''Super Mario'' content within it. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 09:25, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
::::::Then why not just cover all NES Remix games in the series page? [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 09:26, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::NES Remix games are guest appearances. According to [[MarioWiki:Coverage]], guest appearance titles need a separate page. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 13:10, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::So is this, hence its page. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 15:46, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::It's a pack deal of guest appearance titles. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 23:46, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::Ok? If this gets removed, shouldn't we remove [[Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move + Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again!]] or  [[Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros.]] on the basis of being "X-in-1" releases? [[New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U]]? [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 09:19, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::: It's a pack deal of '''''guest appearance''''' titles. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 10:35, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::::[[MarioWiki:Coverage#Package_deals|Here]]. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 10:38, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::::::I don't see how this policy is relevant to your point. If anything, it supports my argument more. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 14:26, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Well, it's "package deals", and it doesn't say anything about guest appearences,just between unrelated stuff, which is relevant to my point. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 14:44, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::I'd argue guest appearance titles are unrelated, because the game itself isn't a ''Mario'' game. If a game called ''Nintendo Land + Nintendo Badge Arcade'' existed, it wouldn't have been covered here, because the games are guest appearance titles. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 14:53, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::But if guest appearances are "unrelated", then why cover them at all? [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 14:58, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::I don't think you understand my point. Guest appearance titles are covered from the perspective of the ''Mario'' series, and not much else. They are "unrelated" in a sense that package deals of them shouldn't be worthy of coverage on this wiki, because the games themselves aren't ''Mario'' games. I wouldn't have an issue with it if this was either ''NES Remix'' series wiki, or if the series had full coverage on this wiki (I don't think it should have full coverage btw) [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 15:07, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::We only cover the Mario aspects of NES Remix, but seriously, why do you keep bringing up the "package deal of guest appearances" argument SO MANY DARN TIMES even though Ultimate NES Remix is TECHNICALLY like NES Remix Pack, and I could go on, but I don't want to because I don't want to bore you. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 15:14, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::::As I've said above, I do not believe that guest appearance package deals should be covered on this wiki. This is why I keep bringing it up. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 07:02, May 25, 2024 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::::But so is Ultimate NES Remix, even if it does a "pick and choose". [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 14:51, May 27, 2024 (EDT)

Given the pack itself still qualifies as a guest appearance, I don't see the need to get rid of this page. Also, what do we think of [[Game & Watch Collection]]? Not an identical situation, but it is also a bundle that is not 100% Mario. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 19:00, July 6, 2024 (EDT)