Editing Talk:NBA Street V3

This should be merged. It doesn't have enough information for its own article. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

Well, it isn't about content. It's about the fact that this isn't really a Mario game.{{User:Knife/sig}} 00:12, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
:Uh, that too :P {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

==Split NBA Street V3 from Video game references==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|4-0|split}}
If SSX on Tour is going to be split, then NBA Street V3 should be split too. They both have [[Mario]], [[Peach]], and Luigi in them.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Red Shell 68066vr}} <br>
'''Deadline:''' 20 February 2010, 20:00

===Split them===
#{{User|Red Shell 68066vr}} per proposal.
#{{User|Time Q}}: Same case as with ''SSX on Tour''.
#{{User|Reversinator}} It's a guarantee that if SSX on Tour gets split, so will this, and vice versa.

===Leave Joined===

===Comments===

== Did the Mario characters appear in this game? ==
I mean in the PS2 version.--[[User:Yoshi104|Yoshi104]] 18:02, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
:AFAIK, they appeared only in the GC version, but I'm not sure. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 09:53, 8 May 2010 (EDT)

== Cameos? ==

Should this be in the list of cameos article since this isn't Mario-related? {{User:Ultramariologan/sig}}
:Look above. --[[User:Reversinator|Reversinator]] 13:32, 31 March 2011 (EDT)

==Question==
This game is a crossover so why don't we treat it like other crossover games and make articles on all of the things in this game {{User|Raven Effect}}
:Because people either don't have the game or are too lazy to make articles. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 20:49, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::Well they aren't even mentioned on the coverage policy while the other crossovers are {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::Maybe the reason we aren't expanding these articles is that Nintendo didn't help in the development or publishment. In the other cross overs, such as the Mario & Sonic series and Fortune Street, Nintendo helped with publishment. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::::It should not matter this game is a crossover so it should be treated like all the other crossovers {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::::No, NBA and SSX are crossover games, just like SSB and M&S, thus they should be treated the same. I'd create the articles but I don't have the games. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 21:52, 6 March 2012 (EST)

The difference NBA Street/SSX and the Olympic Games, Smash Bros, Fortune Street ect is that the first two games are multiplatform releases that happen to have Mario-related contents for one version of the game, while the later groups are crossovers at their core. If you remove the Mario characters from the EA sport games (or just play the PS2-Xbox versions, which don't feature them), none of the fundamentals of what the game offers in content or the universe they represent is changed, whereas the presence of Mario characters and concepts in Smash Bros. & co is, uh, a bit more integral to them.

that,s my 0.02¢. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] 22:46, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:What exactly would change if the Mario characters were removed from SSB and SSBM? [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 22:48, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::A lot but i don't think that point is relevent {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::A large chunk of content would be missing (characters, stages, items, you name it) and the "plot" of Brawl would have to be heavily rewritten, though I admit I wasn't too sure about SSB while writting that. anyway, you're deliberatly ignoring the actual point, which is that there's a difference between a game built from the ground up as a crossover and a multiplatform game that has an handful of Mario-related extras for one version. If you  don't think ''that''  is a good enough reason to differentiate coverage, then yeah sure, you can argue from that position. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] 23:07, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::::I don't see that as a good reason I see this game as a crossover between the NBA street series and Mario (a rather odd one mind you) as Time Q said on the SSX on Tour talk page ''I think this clearly counts as a crossover game, so it should be treated as one. That means: separate article.'' {{User|Raven Effect}}

The Mario characters feel more like guest stars. It's not really a crossover if the only Mario-related thing that is there are the playable characters, which I mentioned previously, are like guests. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 23:54, 6 March 2012 (EST)

:I agree with LeftyGreenMario and Glowsquid. While the ''Mario'' contents in games like this are more than cameos, they're less than full-on crossovers, and having an intermediate "guest appearance"/"guest star" level, in which the game gets a page, but no additional articles, seems like a fair way to approach these games. [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=17310.msg718029#msg718029 I wrote a longer spiel about this whole issue on the forums], by the way: it has my full reasoning, including a small note about how we'd be unlikely to drum up enough user interest to deliver full coverage to decidedly un-''Mario''-ish titles like this anyway. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 00:05, 8 March 2012 (EST)

==Never released in Japan?==
What's "NBA Street V3: Mario de Dunk" then? [[User:TheFruitless|TheFruitless]] ([[User talk:TheFruitless|talk]]) 22:29, 21 October 2013 (EDT)

==Merge NBA Street V3 and SSX on Tour to Video game references==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|1-9|don't merge}}
OK, I am completely wondering why the heck we have this. First point, unlike games like the Olyimpic games series, Mario characters does a '''completely minor''' playable characters appearence. C'mon! This is about guys in general. While the Mario characters are 3, they are only '''a very minor part of the roster'''. Second, they '''only appear in the GameCube version'''. And what about the Xbox and PlayStation ones? They have nothing to do with Mario. So, having contents about a single version is not right, and suits better in the video game reference page. Third, why even talking about the gameplay of this? Trust me, this should not be in MarioWiki. These are just add-on appearences made by Nintendo. A mere reference in other games, which are based on, like I said before, general guys that play sports, while Mario and co. joined at last moment. If there were more characters, this deserves an article, but this isn't those articles' case. This just results in a pretty lenghty reference section, which is a good thing.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Tsunami}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' September 21, 2014, 23:59 GMT

===Merge===
#{{User|Tsunami}} Per proposal.

===Leave===
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per [[Talk:SSX_on_Tour|the stuff that got it split in the first place]], including what's been said in the comments.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per [[MarioWiki:Coverage#Guest_appearances|the wiki's official coverage policy]], per Time Turner and the old TPP, and per [[#Question|all the]] [[mb:threads/17310|discussions]] about how these are "guest appearance" intermediate steps between regular cameos and crossovers and thus deserve ''some'' coverage in the form of single game pages but nothing more.
#{{User|Vommack}} Per all.
#{{User|Mario}} I remember the discussion on this. Par raisins.
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per all.
#{{User|Randombob-omb4761}} These are '''actual games'''. Not references. This isn't merging [[King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine)]] to [[King Boo]].
#{{user|Green 6017 King Of The Slowpoke}} Per all. A cameo would just be a poster of him or a nod to an "Italian plumber". But Mario is a playable characther this counts as a mario game.
#{{user|UltraMario3000}} Per Slowpoke.

===Comments===
OK, I see this is a nope. Since I already know the result, can I just close this early? If it is alredy a closed question (didn't know) there's no need to have this. {{User:Tsunami/sig}}
:Rule 14: "Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that cancelled proposals must also be archived." {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
::That means yes. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}

@Random, the way you write that oppose makes it sound like that proposal passed, when it didn't. {{User|Yoshi876}}

: Passed? I am not seeing that at all. {{User:Randombob-omb4761/sig}}
::You're implying that a proposal merging [[King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine)]] to [[King Boo]] has actually happened and succeeded. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:50, 14 September 2014 (EDT)
:::[[Talk:King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine)#Talk Page Proposal: Merge with King Boo|There was]], but it failed. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}