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While it's clear at this point that this proposal isn't going to pass at the current moment, I would like to bring up a particular point that has made me feel more strongly in support of this proposal since it came to my mind: the wiki currently considers the Dash Mushroom from ''Super Mario Party'' et al to be distinct from the Mushroom in ''Mario Party Superstars'' et al. These Mushrooms may have different names, but their appearance is identical and their effects are almost identical: adding a fixed value to the player's dice roll (even exactly equal to half of the maximum roll in both cases, which varies between games). Now, I understand why this may be and why people oppose the merge, but consider this: how is this different from the Mushroom that appears in early games of the ''Mario Kart'' series, before the name Dash Mushroom was used in either English or Japanese? ''[[Super Mario Kart]]'' is one example of this. If we are to strictly split these pages based on their differing names and regardless of their shared appearance or effects, should ''Super Mario Kart''{{'}}s Mushroom be split from the current Dash Mushroom article (and put on the Mushroom article)? I do not actually think this would be a good idea to be clear, I'm more trying to point out the issues with having these articles be split as they are. I hope this is food for thought on the subject, at least. {{User:Pseudo/sig}} 16:19, November 18, 2024 (EST)
While it's clear at this point that this proposal isn't going to pass at the current moment, I would like to bring up a particular point that has made me feel more strongly in support of this proposal since it came to my mind: the wiki currently considers the Dash Mushroom from ''Super Mario Party'' et al to be distinct from the Mushroom in ''Mario Party Superstars'' et al. These Mushrooms may have different names, but their appearance is identical and their effects are almost identical: adding a fixed value to the player's dice roll (even exactly equal to half of the maximum roll in both cases, which varies between games). Now, I understand why this may be and why people oppose the merge, but consider this: how is this different from the Mushroom that appears in early games of the ''Mario Kart'' series, before the name Dash Mushroom was used in either English or Japanese? ''[[Super Mario Kart]]'' is one example of this. If we are to strictly split these pages based on their differing names and regardless of their shared appearance or effects, should ''Super Mario Kart''{{'}}s Mushroom be split from the current Dash Mushroom article (and put on the Mushroom article)? I do not actually think this would be a good idea to be clear, I'm more trying to point out the issues with having these articles be split as they are. I hope this is food for thought on the subject, at least. {{User:Pseudo/sig}} 16:19, November 18, 2024 (EST)
:This argument was already had [[Talk:Dash Mushroom#Mario Party Superstars|here]]. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 20:06, November 18, 2024 (EST)
:This argument was already had [[Talk:Dash Mushroom#Mario Party Superstars|here]]. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 20:06, November 18, 2024 (EST)
::Fair enough I guess, though I didn't personally see or participate in this (and wasn't very active on the wiki at that time), and do still think it's a relevant point to make. {{User:Pseudo/sig}} 20:10, November 18, 2024 (EST)


A bit of a "postmortem" in the final hour of this proposal: I know it's two-to-one against this passing, but given how many opposing votes there are, I'm a bit pleased with even that, especially with some of the passionate support for it. I feel like it'd be bad form for me to try this proposal again with no executional changes (immediately, at least), but if someone else figures out how to do this in a way that satisfies everyone, or just feels strongly enough to run it back, I'll back them every step of the way — I still stand by everything I said in the proposal, after all. (Maybe make it a proposal-page proposal this time, like Salmancer said.) As for myself, in a month or two, I might make a proposal to just split the strong variants out of the Super Mushroom article. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 18:24, November 18, 2024 (EST)
A bit of a "postmortem" in the final hour of this proposal: I know it's two-to-one against this passing, but given how many opposing votes there are, I'm a bit pleased with even that, especially with some of the passionate support for it. I feel like it'd be bad form for me to try this proposal again with no executional changes (immediately, at least), but if someone else figures out how to do this in a way that satisfies everyone, or just feels strongly enough to run it back, I'll back them every step of the way — I still stand by everything I said in the proposal, after all. (Maybe make it a proposal-page proposal this time, like Salmancer said.) As for myself, in a month or two, I might make a proposal to just split the strong variants out of the Super Mushroom article. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 18:24, November 18, 2024 (EST)

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