Editing Talk:Missable content

== What To Include ==

[[File:Mario and Wendy O. NSMB2.png|thumb|right|This image represents a cutscene that I think can only be seen once. I've wanted to replace this image for a while. If I am right, this image and game should be included in the article.]]
Should one time boss battles be included? This applies to RPGs mostly. I also have a question about the image to the right because I can't seem to replace it. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 15:47, 26 December 2016 (EST)

:Only if said boss battles cannot be fought at all after a certain point. For example (the only one I can think of is non-Mario, sorry) in Undertale, the secret boss Glyde can only be fought before Papyrus is battled, so he is considered missable content. But other bosses are not, since they have to be fought to progress. Those would fall into [[Unrevisitable locations]], I believe.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 10:51, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

== Super Mario 3D World doesn't actually have missable content, does it? ==

I never used the Invincibility Leaf in my playthrough of ''3D World'', but other articles in this wiki (namely [[Completion#Super Mario 3D World]] stated pretty emphatically that shiny star status can be regained by running through the same course without using the Invincibility Leaf again. I changed this article to fit what the other one says, but in case I got it the wrong way around, I'll draw attention to it here, since it's a pretty painful mistake to make.

Maybe it would be less confusing if we removed ''3D World'' from the page entirely, rather than including it and saying, "there's no missable content". But if we go with the latter, maybe we should include ''Donkey Kong Country Returns'' and point out that there's no missable content, since that game's use of a Super Guide analogue might scare players into thinking they ruined their chance for completion by using Super Kong out of curiosity. Or, maybe that's just me. [[User:FiveSparklyStars|FiveSparklyStars]] ([[User talk:FiveSparklyStars|talk]]) 06:04, 2 April 2017 (EDT)

== Paper Jam confusion ==

This page says that any ? blocks not opened in Bowser's Castle are permanently missed after it transforms. However, the page for Neo Bowser Castle says that items missed during the initial visit can still be obtained. So, which is it?--[[User:Thatguy62|Thatguy62]] ([[User talk:Thatguy62|talk]]) 21:34, 28 September 2017 (EDT)

== ''New Super Mario Bros. 2'' and ''U'' ==
Doesn't [[''New Super Mario Bros. 2'']] have the sparkly star thing too like [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]], only instead of [[Super Guide]] you have the the [[Assist Block]] threatening your sparkles? And doesn't [[''New Super Mario Bros. U'']] has a similar thing where if you simply don't use Super Guide, the stars begin shining a little? [[User:MineDance|MineDance]] ([[User talk:MineDance|talk]])
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 == What To Include ==
-[[File:NSMB2 Mario and Wendy O Koopa.png|thumb|right|This image represents a cutscene that I think can only be seen once. I've wanted to replace this image for a while. If I am right, this image and game should be included in the article.]]
+[[File:Mario and Wendy O. NSMB2.png|thumb|right|This image represents a cutscene that I think can only be seen once. I've wanted to replace this image for a while. If I am right, this image and game should be included in the article.]]
 Should one time boss battles be included? This applies to RPGs mostly. I also have a question about the image to the right because I can't seem to replace it. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 15:47, 26 December 2016 (EST)
-:Only if said boss battles cannot be fought at all after a certain point. For example (the only one I can think of is non-Mario, sorry) in Undertale, the secret boss Glyde can only be fought before Papyrus is battled, so he is considered missable content. But other bosses are not, since they have to be fought to progress. Those would fall into [[Unrevisitable area]]s, I believe.
+:Only if said boss battles cannot be fought at all after a certain point. For example (the only one I can think of is non-Mario, sorry) in Undertale, the secret boss Glyde can only be fought before Papyrus is battled, so he is considered missable content. But other bosses are not, since they have to be fought to progress. Those would fall into [[Unrevisitable locations]], I believe.
 :{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 10:51, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
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 This page says that any ? blocks not opened in Bowser's Castle are permanently missed after it transforms. However, the page for Neo Bowser Castle says that items missed during the initial visit can still be obtained. So, which is it?--[[User:Thatguy62|Thatguy62]] ([[User talk:Thatguy62|talk]]) 21:34, 28 September 2017 (EDT)
-== New Super Mario Bros. 2 and U ==
+== ''New Super Mario Bros. 2'' and ''U'' ==
-Doesn't [[New Super Mario Bros. 2]] have the sparkly star thing too like [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]], only instead of [[Super Guide]] you have the the [[Assist Block]] threatening your sparkles? And doesn't [[New Super Mario Bros. U]] has a similar thing where if you simply don't use Super Guide, the stars begin shining a little? [[User:MineDance|MineDance]] ([[User talk:MineDance|talk]])
+Doesn't [[''New Super Mario Bros. 2'']] have the sparkly star thing too like [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]], only instead of [[Super Guide]] you have the the [[Assist Block]] threatening your sparkles? And doesn't [[''New Super Mario Bros. U'']] has a similar thing where if you simply don't use Super Guide, the stars begin shining a little? [[User:MineDance|MineDance]] ([[User talk:MineDance|talk]])
-== Origami King ==
-Does equipping weapons count as accessories? [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 14:49, August 9, 2020 (EDT)
-== Origami King field accessories ==
-In ''Paper Mario: The Origami King'', are there any field accessories that do not effect the "No battle accessories" objective (Example: Confetti Vacuum)? [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 14:18, August 20, 2020 (EDT)
-:I can confirm that field accessories do not affect it, I played through the whole game only using field accessories to find out. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
-== Missable content through glitches? ==
-Should we include missable content that occurs through glitches? Specifically, in Super Mario Odyssey, it's possible to collect 5 power moons and skip the Madame Broode boss fight in Cascade Kingdom using a bunch of complex glitches, and this makes it no longer possible to fight Madame Broode and therefore impossible to obtain the Multi Moon. Same thing for Luncheon Kingdom, there is a skip to get the Cookatiel boss moon early and make it impossible to ever get the meat capture. Should these be included even though they are only missable content if the player uses glitches? [[User:TurkeyCookTime|TurkeyCookTime]] ([[User talk:TurkeyCookTime|talk]]) 13:14, August 28, 2024 (EDT)