Editing Talk:Minecraft

==Images==
I've been uploading an assortment of Minecraft images on Postimg (imgur doesn't play nice with the Wii U's browser). I was planning on uploading them to the wiki in large batches once I took every single image I could, but everyone is free to upload them early, if they'd like: [https://postimg.org/gallery/hg9eeura/ 2D Sprites], [https://postimg.org/gallery/p8honv3q/ 3D Models], [https://postimg.org/gallery/3ctt4nfp2/ Landmarks], [https://postimg.org/gallery/1rj4qkuuu/ Mobs], [https://postimg.org/gallery/2bbqwyn5i/ Skins], and [https://postimg.org/gallery/3f93dqtyu/ Miscellaneous]. I have other galleries for Blocks, Items, and Paintings, but they don't have nearly enough images at the moment. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:28, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:Just create a temporary userpage or use [[MarioWiki:Sandbox]] that creates red file links. Naming is not a problem and uploading to Imgur is bypassed as you upload directly to MarioWiki. I use the red file link trick all the time. The screenshots from the Wii U directly are always JPEG. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 23:34, 23 November 2016 (EST)
::Meh. I prefer doing all of the set-up outside of the wiki and only bothering this place once everything's ready. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:37, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:::Also, there is a risk of quality degradation. Facebook using [https://www.nintendo.com/3ds/image-share 3DS Image Share] is notorious for this, especially with a previous version of [[:File:SM3DL Tapped Icon.png]] uploaded by {{user|Alex95}}. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 23:56, 23 November 2016 (EST)

== Rename Minecraft: Wii U Edition to simply Minecraft. ==
{{TPP}}
With the release of the Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition, it seems very unsettling that the page title still only acknowledges the Wii U Edition, that's why I'm proposing to simply move this page to be titled simply as Minecraft, with no specification of the platform edition in the title. We should treat both versions equally, because, in a sense, the Switch Edition is not a port of the Wii U Edition... well, it kinda is, but in the case for Minecraft, all versions are just ports of the original PC version. This neutrality is to assure the Switch Edition gets a proper treatment, if we take look at the infobox at the beginning, there is little mention of the Switch Edition aside from the platform spot (which looks misleading saying that Minecraft: Wii U Edition is the version available on Nintendo Switch), no one has added its release date, the media or the control input.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Byllant}}<br>
'''Deadline''': May 31, 2017, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|Byllant}} - Per my proposal.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per proposal. It would be redundant to have two separate articles on what is pretty much the exact same game with the exact same content (as mentioned in the beginning statement in the article, not even ports of games we have on this wiki are this similar and chances are, if they are that similar, they should be on the same article). Redirects can easily function and do their job here should users search for their specific version.
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
#{{user|Mario jc}} Definitely needs a rename. Per all.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Though I think "Super Mario Mash-Up Pack" would be better because that is what the article is about. But, since it was released after Minecraft: Wii U Edition, that date is not in line with when Minecraft came to Nintendo systems. So, Minecraft works best. Also, please note that we '''must keep''' the Wikipedia link in the intro, as many people do not know what is Minecraft and this doesn't explain it and it can't explain it because it isn't part of the Mario franchise. Just the Super Mario Mash-Up Pack and the references to Mario.
#{{User|Tails777}} Per all.
#{{User|Alex95}} I was thinking about making this proposal myself at some point. Per all.
#{{User|Luigi 64DD}} Sounds good. Per all.
#{{User|SuperYoshi1234}} Per all.
#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all, renaming it makes the most sense, and would also allow for any future releases of Minecraft with the Super Mario Mash-Up Pack too.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per Byllant in the comments. Usually, for crossover articles, we provide brief coverage on the subject, then talk in-depth about how it relates to Mario. It also makes sense to move the article, since there is no particular name for either Nintendo version of Minecraft.
#{{User|Goomba nr.34}} per proposal

====Oppose====
#{{User|Digibutter}} - I believe that ''Minecraft: Wii U / Nintendo Switch Edition'' would be a better title, like the title given to ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U]]''. The generic "''Minecraft''" title implies that it is also referring to versions on non-Nintendo consoles.

====Comments====
To give out a better idea for this rename, this is how I suggest the main paragraph to be written:

<blockquote>
'''''Minecraft''''' is a sandbox video game released by Mojang AB and 4J Studios originally for Microsoft Windows that features a blocky aesthetic centered around gathering resources to survive, exploring the randomly generated terrain, and creating worlds and sculptures using a variety of colorful blocks and tools, though the objective is largely based on the player's direction. A port called '''''Minecraft Wii U Edition''''' was originally released for the [[Wii U]] Nintendo eShop on December 17, 2015, and later released with a physical edition on May 17, 2016. Another port called '''''Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition''''' was released on the [[Nintendo Switch]] Nintendo eShop on May 11, 2017. Both editions feature an exclusive Super Mario Mash-Up Pack, in addition to the original references to the [[Mario (franchise)|''Mario'']] franchise found in the original PC version, such as a painting featuring [[100m]] from [[Donkey Kong (game)|''Donkey Kong'']] (which was based on a [http://zetterstrand.com/work/pictures/2003/kong.jpg painting] by [[wikipedia:Kristoffer Zetterstrand|Kristoffer Zetterstrand]]). Aside from the different console (and thus, different controls) and an increased map size on the ''Nintendo Switch Edition'', both editions are otherwise identical games.
</blockquote>

'''--<big>[[User:Byllant|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Bold;color:#B40404">'''BYLLANT'''</span>]] [[File:Ak-Un.png|30px|link=User talk:Byllant]]</big> 03:22, 17 May 2017 (EDT)'''

Since this is a talk page proposal, it should run for [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Rules 2|two weeks]], not one, so the deadline should be May 31. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:52, 17 May 2017 (EDT)
:'''''Mincraft''''' should probably be '''''{{wp|Minecraft}}''''' and Super Mario Mash-Up Pack should be '''''Super Mario'' Mash-Up Pack''' (with a [[Super Mario Mash-Up Pack|redirect]]), as that's really the only thing we're covering. We're not covering the entirety of ''Minecraft'' itself, just the ''Super Mario'' related content. Users will probably touch it up once the article is merged anyway :)
:@Digibutter - Considering we're on the "Super Mario Wiki", I don't think people are going to be that confused. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:02, 18 May 2017 (EDT)
::In fact, I hate that title (along with wondering why we cover all aspects of Smash rather than Mario-related aspects). Although Nintendo doesn't recognize [[Super Smash Bros. 4]], that is a better title to type out and doesn't accidentally create a subpage. It feels like it should be a [[:Category:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page to avoid violations of [[MarioWiki:Once and only once]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:18, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
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 == Rename Minecraft: Wii U Edition to simply Minecraft. ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|19-1|rename}}
 With the release of the Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition, it seems very unsettling that the page title still only acknowledges the Wii U Edition, that's why I'm proposing to simply move this page to be titled simply as Minecraft, with no specification of the platform edition in the title. We should treat both versions equally, because, in a sense, the Switch Edition is not a port of the Wii U Edition... well, it kinda is, but in the case for Minecraft, all versions are just ports of the original PC version. This neutrality is to assure the Switch Edition gets a proper treatment, if we take look at the infobox at the beginning, there is little mention of the Switch Edition aside from the platform spot (which looks misleading saying that Minecraft: Wii U Edition is the version available on Nintendo Switch), no one has added its release date, the media or the control input.
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 #{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per Byllant in the comments. Usually, for crossover articles, we provide brief coverage on the subject, then talk in-depth about how it relates to Mario. It also makes sense to move the article, since there is no particular name for either Nintendo version of Minecraft.
 #{{User|Goomba nr.34}} per proposal
-#{{User|Rimigafob}} Good idea! Per all.
-#{{User|Whitey}} I wanted to start this sooner but I forgot my login. I finally remembered it. Per all.
-#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} Per all.
-#{{User|Marioguy}} Per all.
-#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per all.
-#{{User|WaluigiWahrior}} Per Proposal, this really should happen if Minecraft is going to appear on all future Nintendo Platforms as well as Wii U and Switch.
 ====Oppose====
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 :'''''Mincraft''''' should probably be '''''{{wp|Minecraft}}''''' and Super Mario Mash-Up Pack should be '''''Super Mario'' Mash-Up Pack''' (with a [[Super Mario Mash-Up Pack|redirect]]), as that's really the only thing we're covering. We're not covering the entirety of ''Minecraft'' itself, just the ''Super Mario'' related content. Users will probably touch it up once the article is merged anyway :)
 :@Digibutter - Considering we're on the "Super Mario Wiki", I don't think people are going to be that confused. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:02, 18 May 2017 (EDT)
-::In fact, I hate that title (along with wondering why we cover all aspects of Smash rather than Mario-related aspects, but that's a discussion for a different part of MarioWiki). Although Nintendo doesn't recognize [[Super Smash Bros. 4]], that is a better title to type out and doesn't accidentally create a subpage. It feels like it should be a [[:Category:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page to avoid violations of [[MarioWiki:Once and only once]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:18, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
+::In fact, I hate that title (along with wondering why we cover all aspects of Smash rather than Mario-related aspects). Although Nintendo doesn't recognize [[Super Smash Bros. 4]], that is a better title to type out and doesn't accidentally create a subpage. It feels like it should be a [[:Category:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page to avoid violations of [[MarioWiki:Once and only once]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:18, 19 May 2017 (EDT)
-== Rename the article from ''Minecraft'' to a better title. ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|failed|0-9|don't rename}}
-Hi, I actually edits the [https://minecraft.gamepedia.com Official Minecraft Wiki] very frequently, started about 11 months ago, under the name "[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/User:HaydenBobMutthew HaydenBobMutthew]". So I am very experienced with ''Minecraft'' and so I know that ''Minecraft'' have a few editions. According to the wiki, the following table summarises the editions and whether this edition have Super Mario Mash-up Pack or not.
-{| class="wikitable"
-|-
-! Edition !! Super Mario Mash-up pack included?
-|-
-| ''[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition Java Edition]'' || No
-|-
-| ''[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition Bedrock Edition]'' || Partial (''Nintendo Switch'' Only, unavailable on the Marketplace, unusable in Cross Platform multiplayer, due to licensing restrictions)
-|-
-| ''[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Legacy_Console_Edition Legacy Console Edition]'' || Partial (''[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Wii_U_Edition Wii U Edition] and  [https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Nintendo_Switch_Edition Nintendo Switch Edition]'' Only)
-|-
-| ''[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/New_Nintendo_3DS_Edition New Nintendo 3DS Edition]'' || Yes
-|-
-| ''[https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Education_Edition Education Edition]'' || No
-|}
-So, ''Minecraft'' means the game in general. Simply call the title "''Minecraft''" will cause readers confusion between editions. I think that it should be renamed to be ''Minecraft: Wii U / Switch / 3DS / Bedrock Edition'' or something similar. --[[User:HaydenKenMutthew|HaydenKenMutthew]] ([[User talk:HaydenKenMutthew|talk]]) 10:43, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
-'''Proposer''': {{User|HaydenKenMutthew}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': August 2, 2018, 23:59 GMT
-=== Support ===
-=== Oppose ===
-#{{User|Alex95}} - It's meant to be a collective name. I don't think anyone will get confused searching for XBox 360 information on the Super Mario Wiki. We're only covering the Super Mario Mash-Up pack information, not the whole game itself. The page did used to be called "Minecraft: Wii U Edition", but was changed to simply "Minecraft" per the previous proposal above. Per the above proposal.
-#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per Alex95 and the above proposal.
-#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Alex95 and the previous proposal.
-#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
-#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all.
-#{{user|Mario jc}} Per all.
-#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Collective title>Overly-long slashy title. Per all.
-#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
-#{{User|rollerC}} I was unsure about whether or not this would be good for the article, but considering looking up "minecraft mario wiki" on Google would give you ''Minecraft - Super Mario Wiki'' I doubt there would be any confusion over what the purpose of the article is. Per Alex95, per the previous proposal, per all.
-=== Comments ===
-== I think there should be articles for a lot of Minecraft stuff. ==
-I think there should be articles for a lot of Minecraft stuff. Since the Minecraft Nintendo versions have Mario characters, it means that the Minecraft series are now Mario games, and I think the characters and a lot of other stuff except for Steve because he has his own article, should have their own separate articles.
-I also think that all of the Bowser's Fury cat enemies should have their own separate articles because Cat Goofball and Meowser do. I also had wondered what would the cat enemies would look like until they were shown. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 22:00, June 22, 2021 (EDT)
-:A ''Mario''-themed reskin pack does not make ''Minecraft'' a full-on ''Mario'' game. So no, we are ''not'' giving it full coverage. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 22:18, June 22, 2021 (EDT)
-OK. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 00:14, June 23, 2021 (EDT)
-::I ''do'' think that we should probably at least describe behaviors of things instead of just "{x} replaces {y}" on the separate entity pages. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:04, July 2, 2021 (EDT)
-== How do we know it is the Minecart from Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker? ==
-Are we 100% sure that the minecart is a reskin? For all I know the treasure chest cold be from SMB3. {{User:Bubbasour11/sig}}
-== Door Painting Origin ==
-What game does the normal Door painting come from? --[[User:CBFan5|CBFan5]] ([[User talk:CBFan5|talk]]) 20:53, July 29, 2021 (EDT)
-I think it may come from Super Mario 3D Land's toad houses -[[Weej]]
-== Soul Sand Origin ==
-Does anyone know where the soul sand texture is from? I can't think of what it is supposed to be. - [[User:LBlueLuigi|LBlueLuigi]]
-: It says the it's a thwomp, but I kinda think it's a [[Bomp]] -[[User:Luigi 1837]]
-==New update==
-The new mob look fabulous! I got axolotl can someone get the rest?{{User:Bubbasour11/sig}}
-== Red Moo Moo missing Super Mushrooms ==
-The red Moo Moo render is missing the Super Mushrooms that should be on top of it, and my image of the Moo Moo with the Super Mushrooms got deleted.--[[User:Jivan|Jivan]] ([[User talk:Jivan|talk]]) 23:45, October 24, 2022 (EDT)
-:Sorry about that Jivan, I was new at the moment that I made that render, now I have fixed it, and created the other one. [[User:Chuculi|Chuculi]] ([[User talk:Chuculi|talk]]) 11:20, June 8, 2024 (EDT)
-== Why does this article exist? ==
-Seriously, why does this article exist? Can't we move ALL of this into the "list of Mario references in third party games" article? [[Special:Contributions/99.234.207.128|99.234.207.128]] 08:02, March 16, 2023 (EDT)
-:That would make for a very long section within an already big page. This is an official thing which I believe Nintendo were involved with, so it should have a page about it. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 08:57, March 16, 2023 (EDT)
-Thanks for answering, I just want the Mario stuff in Minecraft in the article. Isn't there a failed proposal about this? [[Special:Contributions/99.234.207.128|99.234.207.128]] 07:34, May 6, 2023 (EDT)
-== New Images for Blocks and Items category ==
-Hello, I've uploaded all of the images to turn the Blocks and Items section into a gallery like the other sections. I'm currently ill and don't have the energy to make the gallery, so please, if someone has time, finish the job that I've started. A Big Thanks, if anyone does it! - [[User:Luigi 1837]] | [[User:Luigi 1837|talk]]
-== The problem with unknown mobs ==
-{{User|ScratchCat5754}} I've been doing a lot of work on the Minecraft page because I have the mash-up pack on my Switch at home. I don't know about the origins of the Parrot, Tropical Fish, Skeleton Horse and the Zombie Horse. I've tried researching on the wiki, but I couldn't find anything. Also, where did that angry Poochy face come from?
-== Redundant Images ==
-[[Weej]] Should we delete the images from the building blocks section that are already listed in the door and wood types? We could condense a lot of the information that way
-== Minecraft/Super Mario animals what they are Vs wta in Mario one ==
-Above. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.247.110|82.132.247.110]] 10:10, November 13, 2024 (EST)