Editing Talk:Metal Box

== Pics? ==

Can we get pics of the people from Brawl and Melee in metal form, along with Metal Mario from SM64, Metal Mario from SSB, and Metal Wario from SM64DS? [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 13:23, 5 February 2012 (EST)

== Merge with [[Exclamation Mark Block]] ==
Why does this one have its own article?

{{User|SuperFlameGuy}} (please format, this '''is''' a TPP.)

:It needs its own article because it's a ''version'' of an Exclamation Mark Block. While all Metal Boxes are ! Blocks, not all ! Blocks are Metal Boxes. Unlike the red, yellow, and blue ones, this one has appeared also as its own item in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''; this is actually the main reason it has its own article. Please keep it separate. [[Special:Contributions/173.60.171.234|173.60.171.234]] 16:05, 20 November 2013 (EST)

== Rename ==
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Per [[MarioWiki:Naming#Name changes]] (specifically, the exceptions) and the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_51#Smash_Bros._Articles:_What_Stays_and_What_Goes.3F|recent ''Smash''-related propsal]], how about renaming this article either "Green Block" or "Green ! Block"? After all, that's what it's called in ''Mario 64''; "Metal Box" is a [[wikipedia:Beam me up, Scotty|Beam me up, Scotty]]-ism, as only the ''Smash'' series calls it that.

'''Proposer''': {{User|RickTommy}}<br>
'''Deadline''': August 3, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|RickTommy}}

===Oppose===
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} ''Smash'' is still an official Nintendo source, and ''Mario''-related items certainly stay. So no, no it isn't comparable to Captain Kirk's never-said-yet-oft-quoted line.
#{{User|YoshiEgg1990}} Per Doc.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Perfectly fine for us to use a ''Smash Bros.'' name for a ''Mario'' object if it helps distinguish it more.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} No offense, but this is the most ridiculous rename proposal I've seen thus far. The fact that these objects are only officially named in a Nintendo "crossover" series '''does not''' mean we shouldn't use that name.
#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} As we do not have articles for Red ! Blocks or Blue ! Blocks, ''and'' because Metal Box is more descriptive, ''and'' because Metal Box is an in-game name, while the other was taken from a booklet (not a huge difference in tier, but still a difference), I say we keep the current name.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} I'd say that Metal Box is likely the more familiar name at this point. If we do get another ''Mario'' appearance for this block and gets "Green Block" as an official name, then we can reconsider. I don't consider it a "ridiculous" rename proposal, as bringing up our priority on Smash names vs. Mario names is a valid point.

===Comments===
The [[Talk:Super_Bowser#Include_information_on_all_of_Bowser.27s_Giant_forms|new Super Bowser proposal]] doesn't acknowledge Giant Bowser's name from the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series (albeit "Giant" replaces "Super" forms), and we also had a [[Talk:Triforce (symbol)#Split Triforce Arcade and LoZ Triforce|proposal]] that moved the ''Zelda'' series' Triforce to an identifier over the more ''Mario''-relevant arcade board, so I suppose this depends on how much we want to pull out of ''Super Smash Bros.''-related content. If we had articles for Red Block and Blue Block from ''Super Mario 64'', I'd say definitely to keep consistency with the three. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:42, 20 July 2018 (EDT)

:I'd like to point out that "Giant Bowser" is never used as an actual name, even in the ''Smash'' series, despite it being a very commonly used fan term. When it is stated in Melee, I think it is meant to be interpreted as "Bowser who is giant" not as the actual name/title of Giant Bowser. The reason it's called Super Bowser is not because it's more relevant to the ''Mario'' series, it's because, contrary to popular belief, Giant Bowser is never a term used by Nintendo.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 15:00, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
::Technically it ''can'' be used in ''Smash'', but it's a generic stock descriptor word that is mad-libbed together through separate soundbytes. "Giant," "Metal," and "Team" are all like this. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:10, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
::Every Super Mushroom-sized fighter in Classic Mode is referred to as their "Giant" form; thus, Giant Bowser is technically an in-game term used by Nintendo, only for ''Smash Bros.'' For that matter, Metal Box is officially named Green Block in ''Super Mario 64''. It just seems contradictory to pick and choose from ''Smash Bros.'' and the ''Mario'' series like this. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:12, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
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 == Rename ==
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-{{Proposal outcome|failed|1-10|Keep current name}}
-Per [[MarioWiki:Naming#Name changes]] (specifically, the exceptions) and the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/51#Smash_Bros._Articles:_What_Stays_and_What_Goes.3F|recent ''Smash''-related propsal]], how about renaming this article either "Green Block" or "Green ! Block"? After all, that's what it's called in ''Mario 64''; "Metal Box" is a [[wikipedia:Beam me up, Scotty|Beam me up, Scotty]]-ism, as only the ''Smash'' series calls it that.
+Per [[MarioWiki:Naming#Name changes]] (specifically, the exceptions) and the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_51#Smash_Bros._Articles:_What_Stays_and_What_Goes.3F|recent ''Smash''-related propsal]], how about renaming this article either "Green Block" or "Green ! Block"? After all, that's what it's called in ''Mario 64''; "Metal Box" is a [[wikipedia:Beam me up, Scotty|Beam me up, Scotty]]-ism, as only the ''Smash'' series calls it that.
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 #{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} As we do not have articles for Red ! Blocks or Blue ! Blocks, ''and'' because Metal Box is more descriptive, ''and'' because Metal Box is an in-game name, while the other was taken from a booklet (not a huge difference in tier, but still a difference), I say we keep the current name.
 #{{User|Bazooka Mario}} I'd say that Metal Box is likely the more familiar name at this point. If we do get another ''Mario'' appearance for this block and gets "Green Block" as an official name, then we can reconsider. I don't consider it a "ridiculous" rename proposal, as bringing up our priority on Smash names vs. Mario names is a valid point.
-#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Per all.
-#{{User|Jigglypuff}} Although stated in Hazy Maze Cave in one of the signs that call the block "green block", calling it the Metal Box is fine enough.
-#{{User|rollerC}} Per Mr. L and Bazooka Mario.
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