Editing Talk:Master Core

From the person who edited the 7.0 to 6.0: After losing to a particularly brutal fight where in the redo I had to get both opponents to over 150% to win at 6.0 intensity, I fought Master Core at the reduced intensity of 5.5, though he started in his second form (the five sword things.)  I know you don't face him at 4.0, but I'm not sure about between 4.1 and 5.5.
:I tried at 4.0 with Dedede and I didn't face him. I thought so. I tried 5.1 and I faced him. When I will ever have time I will try 5.0. If you don't then it's obvious that you won't face him at 4.9 or lower {{User:Tsunami/sig}}

== Master Core appearance in Smash Wii U ==

Has anyone confirmed that Master Core appears at intensity 5.1 in ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U''? One of the game's challenges says to clear Classic at intensity 5.5 or higher, so I assumed that Master Core will only appear at intensity 5.5 and above in that game. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 21:09, 1 January 2015 (EST)

==Split Master Core Forms==
{{TPP}}
I think that, being a final boss, we should create a separate article on each of the forms of Master Core. Now, since, in the special moves box, putting in different subheadings is likely out of the question, either we should list them out in a separate section of the page, or we move each form to its own page with its own strategy. We could also just do nothing...

'''Proposer''': {{User|Megamario15}}<br>
'''Deadline''': January 22, 2015 23:59, GMT

===Split into different forms===
#{{User|Megamario15}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Toadbrigade5}} Per proposal.
#{{User|1337star}} Consistency with pages such as [[Czar Dragon]]/[[Zombone]], [[Dark Fawful]]/[[Dark Bowser]]/[[Dark Star Core]], etc.

===Individual page sections for each ===
#{{user|Baby Luigi}} The Master Core forms are ultimately still part of Master Core. They are distinct in that I agree with making separate page sections but not different enough to make separate pages. Keep the page merged, make different sections for them.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Aokage}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Chocolate Mario}} "More the merrier" in terms of page creation would be unsatisfactory here. Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Dfrthyui}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Mario}} Nope. Unlike the other forms 1337star has mentioned, all of these forms encompass one being, Master Core.
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Being the final boss is a bad reason; Bowser and Giant Bowser are both merged.
#{{User|Pseudo-dino}} Per Mario.
#{{User|Laikue}} Per all. Heck, Smashwiki doesn't even do this.
#{{User|Kart Player 2011}} Per all.
#{{User|Glitchy Bowser Jr.}} I don't think there is enough information on each form to warrant separate pages.
#{{User|BabyLuigi64}} Per all, though especially per Mario and Baby Luigi.

===Do Nothing===

===Comments===
In retrospect, I doubt that putting up a "do nothing" option was the best thing to do. People want to get things done here, not ignore all of our insignificant pages. I don't think that anyone will put something there. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 17:26, 8 January 2015 (EST)
:They will. People don't always agree these pages should be created. Sometimes they will oppose the creation.[[File:Toad-brigade model CTTT.png|35px|]][[User:toadbrigade5|<font color=red><big>'''Toad'''</big></font>]][[User talk:toadbrigade5| <small>and his</small><font color=grey> '''brigade!'''</font>]][[File:Toadette model CTTT.png|35px]] 18:56, 8 January 2015 (EST)
::Well, thank you. I am not that good at predicting people's actions. I put the option up just in case. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 18:59, 8 January 2015 (EST)

A do nothing option is needed because you need to anticipate that some people like the way things are. People like to get things done, but sometimes, it's fine the way it is. Seeing how this proposal is going, sections are going to be created, but it's not like it requires a proposal due to the wildly differing forms of Master Core. Splitting the page, on the other hand, does require a talk page proposal, due to an action that requires discussion first. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:03, 9 January 2015 (EST)
:Thank you for explaining why I need the option. Seeing as I'm new here and also relatively inexperienced, I just thought I'd mention that. Maybe [[Talk:Mario Circuit (GBA)|my next one]] will be better. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 16:12, 9 January 2015 (EST)
::Yes, it's always great to ask questions for clarify and more information, especially if you're inexperienced. That's what we encourage here. :) {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:47, 9 January 2015 (EST)
:::Thank you. You seem to be good at helping new people. Anyway, I hope that there are more people ready to offer their opinions on this topic. I have a Prima guide for the game that has all of its special moves. I could use that, because judging by the volume of people in the second option, the Master Core page is becoming longer in 2 weeks. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 17:13, 9 January 2015 (EST)
@SuperYoshiBros. I know that being a final boss was a bad reason. I just found it a bit hard to find a good opening. Just curious, what would you have said if you made the proposal? It may help me (the inexperienced user) in the future. '''EDIT:''' Also, this is my first proposal, and it has a bad introduction for that reason. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 22:24, 9 January 2015 (EST) Date of edit: 14:00, 10 January 2015 (EST)

OK, at this point, I think that this proposal should just be closed due to the volume of votes. It appears that new sections are going to be made on the master core page. If anybody knows how to change this to say settled, that would be great. We can begin construction on the article as soon as this says settled above it. If you would like a description of a specific move, ask me on my talk page. I will give that and a picture from the online version of my Prima guide. Please specify on which Smash Bros. version (3ds or Wii U) you would like the picture to be. (Don't specify for Master Fortress as he is Wii U only). Before you ask me, use your own experience and pictures already on the wiki. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 14:10, 10 January 2015 (EST)
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 I think that, being a final boss, we should create a separate article on each of the forms of Master Core. Now, since, in the special moves box, putting in different subheadings is likely out of the question, either we should list them out in a separate section of the page, or we move each form to its own page with its own strategy. We could also just do nothing...
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 #{{User|Glitchy Bowser Jr.}} I don't think there is enough information on each form to warrant separate pages.
 #{{User|BabyLuigi64}} Per all, though especially per Mario and Baby Luigi.
-#{{User|Stargazing}} Per Baby Luigi, Mario, and Laikue.
-#{{User|Tsunami}} Per Baby Luigi. They still are the same thing just in a different form, thus don't need sparate articles.
-#{{User|Ghost Jam}} Per Baby Luigi.
-#{{User|Green6017 Guy}} Per Baby Luigi.
-#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} Per BL.
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 OK, at this point, I think that this proposal should just be closed due to the volume of votes. It appears that new sections are going to be made on the master core page. If anybody knows how to change this to say settled, that would be great. We can begin construction on the article as soon as this says settled above it. If you would like a description of a specific move, ask me on my talk page. I will give that and a picture from the online version of my Prima guide. Please specify on which Smash Bros. version (3ds or Wii U) you would like the picture to be. (Don't specify for Master Fortress as he is Wii U only). Before you ask me, use your own experience and pictures already on the wiki. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 14:10, 10 January 2015 (EST)
-:Actually, just let the proposal wait out until its deadline. You can technically cancel it early, according to rule 14: "Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation." This is the <s>dawn of the</s> second day <s>48 hours remain</s>. Yeesh, I sound like a rule book. I still think you should wait until its deadline, though, because the changes probably wouldn't be made, and besides, sometimes, there's a valid point brought you, and you know how quickly the tide can change, especially if you let the users know about the new point (which is not soliciting). I don't think it's going to happen, but the possibility is always there, miniscule or not. Anyway, yeah, I'm actually a bit busy right now, in real life and in this wiki, so may or may not expand the page once the proposal passes. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:39, 10 January 2015 (EST)
-::OK. Since it's the third day already, I guess I need to wait. Thanks again. [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 12:12, 11 January 2015 (EST)