Editing Talk:Mario and Luigi's family

==Cousins==
Isn't Wario Luigi's cousin?Stanly the bugman should be mentioned too.[[User:mr bones]]
:If Wario was Luigi's cousin, then, by extension, he'd also be Mario's cousin. However, this fact has not been confirmed in a main-series game. As far as I'm aware, it's never even been stated in a spin off. As for Stanley: what makes you think he's related to the Marios? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 08:57, 2 January 2010 (EST)
I thought that he's his cousin.Here's what I saw in ign.com:
Mario's frequently forgotten cousin Stanley was the bugspray-wielding exterminator in Donkey Kong 3. The story of that sequel was that DK had broken into Stanley's greenhouse and started causing trouble, and it was up to Stan the man to send the big ape packing with the power of potent pesticide.[[User:mr bones]]
:They were being sarcastic. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}

== Name ==
Shouldn't this article be "Mario and Luigi's '''F'''amily", with a capital F? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:Only in case it's a proper name, which I don't think it is. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 19:04, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

== Grandmothers ==

Shouldn't there be sections about [[Grandma Mario#Nintendo Comics System|Grandma]] and [[Grandma Mario#Club Nintendo|the unnamed grandmother]]? {{User|Weegie baby}} hour, day month, year

== Mario and Luigi ==

Mario and Luigi should have their own sections. [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 09:55, November 13, 2024 (EST)

==Possible relative of the Mario Bros.==
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[[File:TSMBSS possible relative.png|thumb|The man in question]]
In ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!]]'' episode "[[Plummers Academy]]", a man similar in appearance to [[Mario]] and [[Luigi]] appears with them, wearing a white shirt with a purple tie, black pants, and brown shoes, who cheers with them as the [[Mr. President|President of the United States]]'s motorcade drives by. Should this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Apikachu68|Apikachu68]] ([[User talk:Apikachu68|talk]]) 14:23, December 12, 2024 (EST)

:Interesting, but without proofs or confirmation, it's a mere coincidence, like the proto-Wario at the beginning of said episode. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 15:52, December 12, 2024 (EST)

== FINALLY! YES!!! ==

I’ve found proof that [[Stanley]]’s Mario’s cousin. It’s in IGN. Here: https://www.ign.com/articles/2007/09/28/smash-it-up-from-the-trophy-case. See Stanley’s section. {{User|Weegie baby}} 18:20, January 1, 2025 (EST)
:It's not really officially vetted, so I wouldn't consider this solid evidence, but I guess you can add an asterisk at the end of the article that IGN claims Stanley to be the Mario Bros.'s cousin, in a similar vein to how Prima Guide claims Toadette to be Toad's sister. {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:13, January 1, 2025 (EST)
::What do you mean “asterisk”? You do that… {{User|Weegie baby}} 18:20, January 1, 2025 (EST)
:::Unlike Prima, IGN isn’t an official source from Nintendo though, is it? I don’t think this is worth any mention on the wiki as it’s just a gaming journalist projecting their own view online. {{User:LadySophie17/sig}} 21:04, January 1, 2025 (EST)
::::Probably just say they claimed this but there's no evidence outside of it. We should probably set the record for that in case this crops up again in the future. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:12, January 2, 2025 (EST)
:::::Honestly, it sounds more like not much as "cousin" like "family member", but more like "a member of the same franchise" (kinda like saying "Mario and Link are Shigeru's "children"." as in "creations" not actual biological kids), but I don't wanna open another parenthesis like we did with [[Talk:Mama Mario]]. BUT... thinking about it, wasn't there a Nintendo magazine that once claimed that Wario was considered Mario's cousin? I'm pretty sure it was also written on his page at one point (I also looked online for this, but outside from unsourced Reddit posts, I didn't find anything, so I can see why it was potentially removed). --{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 05:44, January 2, 2025 (EST)

== Stanley ==

So, I found another website that said Stanley is Mario's cousin, though I don't know if it's official. You tell me: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1690724557/stanley-the-bugman-rare-mario-character. {{unsigned|Weegie baby}}
:That's an Etsy listing of a fanmade piece of merchandise. That is very much not official. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 14:21, January 22, 2025 (EST)

== Baby Luigi ==

[[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] pointed out that in a manga Baby Luigi was Mario and Peach’s son. Can we add him? Here is the link they used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g0uXcTF3mA&t=281s. [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 13:17, January 24, 2025 (EST)

:It's worth a mention, but it was its own story (sort of like a parody in which cartoon characters play the roles of a fairy tale). {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 14:04, January 24, 2025 (EST)

::But can we add it to the article or not? [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 14:26, January 24, 2025 (EST)

:::OH, right: Mario and Luigi aren't in the page. Maybe in a trivia section, so we can also include the Peach of this continuity? {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 14:29, January 24, 2025 (EST)

::::I actually wanted to add a trivia section since when I found that IGN article stating Stanley is Mario’s cousin, but I didn’t think that was enough for a trivia section. But now, I think we could add one. [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 14:39, January 24, 2025 (EST)
:::::I've said this before in [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Make categories for families|your family proposal]], but I think it's not a good idea to blindly trust [https://www.ign.com/articles/2007/09/28/smash-it-up-from-the-trophy-case that IGN article] you found. It's not an article that reports on official information, but rather an opinion piece speculating which Trophies in ''Melee'' could be seeing an upgrade in ''Brawl'' (and is thus not very verifiable as a source); even then, the "cousin" may be meant in a more metaphorical sense anyway (both Mario and Stanley have been protagonists in arcade ''Donkey Kong'' games where they had to duke against the titular ape, so they're kinda analogous to each other regardless of family relations). Actually, [[#FINALLY! YES!!!|I'm not the ''only'' one who refuted the article you blindly believed, am I?]] {{User:Arend/sig}} 14:12, January 25, 2025 (EST)

== Wario ==

I’ve found this link. Is it reliable? Here it is: https://www.facebook.com/yagodesignwrap/posts/bad-cousin-of-mad-mario-wario-wrapper-vollverklebtde-ihr-team-f%C3%BCr-folierung-und-/4829131913768347/ [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 13:29, January 25, 2025 (EST)
:No. It's just some guy's custom design I think. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 13:32, January 25, 2025 (EST)
::I think they were referring to the wording of the Facebook post (''"Bad Cousin of Mad Mario. Wario!"'') rather than the design of the car. However, I'd also say no to this, since the Facebook user Yagodesign is ''not'' officially associated with Nintendo in any way we know of. This means that the custom design for the car in said post is unofficial, as are the words in the very same post. And who the heck is ''Mad'' Mario, anyway? I don't remember Mario ''ever'' being called that.<br>{{@|Weegie baby}}, may I advise you to stop looking for evidence at random Etsy products, random Facebook posts, or random articles; and instead look for evidence at official Nintendo websites, official Nintendo social media, official Nintendo manuals, and officially licensed guide books and magazines (see [[MarioWiki:Citations#Why sourcing? What needs it?|this]] for more info). {{User:Arend/sig}} 14:01, January 25, 2025 (EST)

== Mario’s frequently forgotten cousin ==

I know you won’t care for this, but here: [https://web.archive.org/web/20121108233141/http://www.ign.com/characters/stanley-the-bugman]. [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 16:44, February 20, 2025 (EST)
:A random bio on IGN is not a reliable source. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 16:46, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::We've debunked the whole "Stanley is Mario's cousin because IGN said so" thing like five times already. We're not going to cave in at the sixth time just because it's on a random IGN biography instead of a random IGN article: it's still an unofficial claim from a non-Nintendo source. Please recall the advice I gave you in [[#Wario|the section above]]. {{User:Arend/sig}} 16:50, February 20, 2025 (EST)
:::I just wanted to point it out, I wasn’t trying to make you change your mind. I just wanted to let you know (in these 2 sentences, “you” is in the plural form.) [[User:Weegie baby|Weegie baby]] ([[User talk:Weegie baby|talk]]) 17:02, February 20, 2025 (EST)