Editing Talk:Mario Sports Superstars

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I think boom boom and pom pom should be in the supporters since they re the goalkeepers {{unsigned|Username777}}
:Done. I thought so too. I also moved Koopa Troopa and Paratroopa to supporting cast. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:21, 1 September 2016 (EDT)

::They DO appear in the baseball part as well, though. I think we should just have one list of playable characters until we really know how the game works, because now it's kinda just like guessing who's fully playable and who's just some supporting character at this point. {{User:Qyzxf/sig}}

:More significantly, I'm sure I saw Pom Pom, by herself, in the Tennis part. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 17:14, 1 September 2016 (EDT)
::Could you please point the trailer and the moment where you saw her? I tried looking at the trailers but couldn't find her, and this would be relevant information for the page.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:37, 1 September 2016 (EDT)

:::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtuP7bjffQ 0.51. It was actually the baseball part. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 12:30, 2 September 2016 (EDT)
::::I think Boom Boom is definitely a supporter character. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtuP7bjffQ 0:27 of this video], Boom Boom has a different outline than Mario and Luigi. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:17, 2 September 2016 (EDT)

== ? Block Icon ==

I clicked on the Main Menu screenshot (on my Wii U) and zoomed in. It looked like this so called ? Block icon is simply the manual icon. I don't want to edit it though, due to the possibility of my simply being mistaken or something. [[User:Marioguy|Marioguy]] ([[User talk:Marioguy|talk]]) 16:51, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
:That's a good call. Do any other 3DS games have a ? Block exactly like this that represents the manual? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:03, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
::I thought that's what all manual icons for the 3DS (and Wii U) look like. A question mark in a book. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:04, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
:::If that's so, then add the information. It can't be speculation if it's this consistent. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:41, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Already added it in a few hours ago. :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:43, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::Thanks <3 {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:47, 6 September 2016 (EDT)

== Peach and Daisy's Sports Outfit ==

Going by the gallery of pictures we have so far, won't we need to say for a Trivia, Princess Peach and Princess Daisy are the only two characters in this game to have two sports outfits in this game? [[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] ([[User talk:Kangaflora|talk]]) 12:28, 13 September 2016 (EDT)

Actually, it seems like [[Rosalina]] has this trait too. [[User:Marioguy|Marioguy]] ([[User talk:Marioguy|talk]]) 21:56, 24 September 2016 (EDT)

== Character Limitations ==

Hey i was wandering if there are Character limitations in this game was it nintendos choice in m&srio2016??? i would like to know as i pray to god there will be no limitations. [[User:Mariobirdofan02|Mariobirdofan02]]
:It isn't confirmed that there are character limitations, however, there's evidence against character limitations so far: most characters barring a few were shown playable in more than one sport. I think the only characters shown in one sport were Birdo, Baby Mario, and Baby Luigi, and I would find it a bit weird that they make Baby Mario a soccer exclusive while Baby Luigi a horse-riding exclusive. This game also contains less characters than Mario & Sonic, as well as less, but more focused games. And finally, Mario & Sonic were developed by SEGA, this game is developed by different developers, Camelot and Namco Bandai games. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:36, 30 September 2016 (EDT)
::Baby Mario [https://youtu.be/QHG8fWiWJaw?t=417 is also in Golf], so there is little to worry about, for the reasons said by Baby Luigi: five sports (not all developed by the same team) and a (relatively) small roster don't create the need of restricting characters to some sports in order not to create huge animations sets. SEGA itself doesn't seem to be exactly fond of restricitng characters that much, to the point that in the Wii U and arcade versions of Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games the core cast from the 2010 game has no restriction at all.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:04, 30 September 2016 (EDT)

== Japanese's realesed : July 2017 ? ==
Hello, in USA and Europe, the game realesed in spring 2017 (March-April-May 2017). And for Japan, Winter 2017 ? (June-July 2017) ? --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' 12:35, 27 November 2016 (EST)
:Source? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:11, 27 November 2016 (EST)
::We know the USA and Europe release date but I don't think there's anything confirmed for Japanese release dates. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:26, 27 November 2016 (EST)
:::Bazooka Mario, you say "Source?", you bindled or What ? I asked a question for the japanese's realesed. And Baby Luigi thanks for the information --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' 05:20, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::::There's no need to be rude, Captain Yoshi. He only asked you for a source as to where you got your claim for the Japanese release date. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 07:01, 28 November 2016 (EST)
:::::Yes but i asked a question --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' 13:02, 28 November 2016 (EST)

::::::It doesn't look like a question, though. It looks like you're making a statement, as if you're saying "The game will be released in Japan in the Winter 2017". So naturally it would make sense for Bazooka Mario to ask for a source, I.E. where did you get that statement from? [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 14:11, 28 November 2016 (EST)
:::::::She, not he. It wasn't clear to me what you were asking. And even if that was a legit question, you could've possibly gotten a date from a source and tried to ask us for confirmation before you add it to a page. Either way, if you see a release date that's inconsistent with the article's release date in a recent source, you should provide the source. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 18:25, 28 November 2016 (EST)
::::::::My apologies. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 04:21, 29 November 2016 (EST)

== Fact Sheet ==

http://nintendoeverything.com/mario-sports-superstars-details-training-mode-18-playable-characters-more/

The game includes a training mode, the link mentions that horse racing involves building a stable of horses and confirms there are eighteen playable characters (i.e.: 2 more we haven't seen yet). --[[User:Thatguy62|Thatguy62]] ([[User talk:Thatguy62|talk]]) 01:46, 10 December 2016 (EST)

== Character Types are Color-Coded ==

https://youtu.be/_j7SNjlsSDc?t=34s

For the partner characters, we can make out what type they are by the background behind their head. On the main character selection screen, it shows Balance characters are Green, Technique is Blue, Speed is Yellow, and Power is Red. {{unsigned|71.88.50.65}}
:I already know the background thing, you can easily observe this by looking at the initial reveal trailer. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:53, 26 January 2017 (EST)

:I'm just curious if the fact that Magikoopa's circle has a blue outline and blue filling while Paratroopa's has a blue outline and green filling means anything other than potentially just color-swaps. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:36, 26 January 2017 (EST)

That's not what I mean. The page says the circles indicate whether they're "generic characters" or not. But the new trailer shows that it actually indicates their character type. Like Boom Boom and Spike have red background, meaning they're Power characters. As for the Paratroopa multi-colored circle, the top screen shows Paratroopa's full model, and it's a green one. So the blue is probably Paratroopa's type (Technique) while the green indicates that it's a Green Paratroopa. {{71.88.50.65}}

:That was actually originally referring to the bottom screen positions in soccer (can be seen [[:File:MarioSportsSuperstarsScreenshot11.png|here]] or in the original announcement trailer). [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 16:32, 28 January 2017 (EST)

==Metal Mario's playability==
Several things I like to dispute about this.

*If there was a special technique for each character, we would have seen at least a meter for it in the screenshots provided for horse racing. The only things we saw is the Stamina Meter and the Star Dash meter. The stamina meter is replenished when you eat carrots while the Star Dash is a technique that makes you go faster. There is nothing further to indicate this.
*If Mario's special ability WAS to transform into Metal Mario, other characters should at least have an HUD change in the map screen for their special effect as well, or at least different particle effects around ''their'' icon. We don't see this at all.
*The little icons on the bottom right area of the amiibo card? I'm pretty sure it represents the [http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-3DS/Mario-Sports-Superstars-1136172.html#amiibo gear you can unlock when you scan it in, as mentioned in this site.]

{{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:53, 10 February 2017 (EST)

:Maybe [[Metal Box]] could be an item instead.  [[Item Box]]es could clearly be seen in some pictures.
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::I have not seen an item box in any picture at all. I have seen stars and carrots, both which I have explained their purposes, but no item boxes. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:04, 10 February 2017 (EST)

== Digital cards ==

I see that images of the digital cards have been added to respective character galleries, but should those mainly be for the primary digital card gallery page for this game (as in, they don't really qualify for the respective character gallery pages)? --M. C. - [[User:MeritC|Profile]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 08:44, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

:I was actually following the lead of Baby Luigi, who had added the cards to the galleries of the Baby Mario Bros. I mean, they do feature images of the characters which have been encoded as sprites in-game, so I think they count. They're kind of similar to trophies from ''Smash Bros.'' actually. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:03, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
::basically per MarioComix's reasoning. They're technically sprites of characters, so I don't see a reason to exclude them. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 02:50, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

== Sound Test ==

Should we add Sound Test like [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U: A Smashing Soundtrack|Super Smash Bros. 4's]] and [[Music Player|Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam's]] musics? {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 22:54, 14 April 2017 (EDT)

== "Initial run" copies ==

At the beginning of the article it says that "initial run copies of the game come with one amiibo card".  What does "initial run" mean?  And is it possible to change it to a date, like "the game comes with an amiibo card until (insert date)"? -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|YoshiFlutterJump]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|talk]]) 17:27, 18 April 2017 (EDT)

:I suspect "initial run" refers to the first batch of games that were physically produced. (Think the Switch: all Switch consoles released so far are the initial run, and they ran out.) At least, this is my understanding of the phrase. I'm not sure if we can add a date yet, especially if we don't know when the initial run will end. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 17:39, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
::We don't know when the time will come where the game will no longer come with the copy of the card. It depends on how quickly the first mass production is sold out and if there will be a second mass production. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:44, 18 April 2017 (EDT)

:::"Initial run" means some of the first copies of the game released at retail (for example, it could be the first 1000). Copies outside of this do not include a free amiibo card. {{User:Dry Bowser rules!/sig}} 17:48, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
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 I think boom boom and pom pom should be in the supporters since they re the goalkeepers {{unsigned|Username777}}
 :Done. I thought so too. I also moved Koopa Troopa and Paratroopa to supporting cast. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:21, 1 September 2016 (EDT)
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 :I'm just curious if the fact that Magikoopa's circle has a blue outline and blue filling while Paratroopa's has a blue outline and green filling means anything other than potentially just color-swaps. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:36, 26 January 2017 (EST)
-That's not what I mean. The page says the circles indicate whether they're "generic characters" or not. But the new trailer shows that it actually indicates their character type. Like Boom Boom and Spike have red background, meaning they're Power characters. As for the Paratroopa multi-colored circle, the top screen shows Paratroopa's full model, and it's a green one. So the blue is probably Paratroopa's type (Technique) while the green indicates that it's a Green Paratroopa. {{unsigned|71.88.50.65}}
+That's not what I mean. The page says the circles indicate whether they're "generic characters" or not. But the new trailer shows that it actually indicates their character type. Like Boom Boom and Spike have red background, meaning they're Power characters. As for the Paratroopa multi-colored circle, the top screen shows Paratroopa's full model, and it's a green one. So the blue is probably Paratroopa's type (Technique) while the green indicates that it's a Green Paratroopa. {{71.88.50.65}}
 :That was actually originally referring to the bottom screen positions in soccer (can be seen [[:File:MarioSportsSuperstarsScreenshot11.png|here]] or in the original announcement trailer). [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 16:32, 28 January 2017 (EST)
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 == Sound Test ==
 Should we add Sound Test like [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U: A Smashing Soundtrack|Super Smash Bros. 4's]] and [[Music Player|Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam's]] musics? {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 22:54, 14 April 2017 (EDT)
-:We definitely should. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:26, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
-::Good. I will make it either tomorrow or the day after that unless you do it before me. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 15:31, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
-:::Don't worry, I have a lot of other stuff to cover in this article, including writing the courses and Road to Superstar enemies. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:35, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
-::::Don't forget that the music for the unlockable courses in each mode aren't available until after clearing the Star Cup. I did the Sky Peak Ring Challenge in Horse Racing and didn't unlock the music to listen to, BTW. &ndash; 16:39, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
-:::::I've already cleared Star Cup in all sports a looong time ago. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:40, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
 == "Initial run" copies ==
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 :::"Initial run" means some of the first copies of the game released at retail (for example, it could be the first 1000). Copies outside of this do not include a free amiibo card. {{User:Dry Bowser rules!/sig}} 17:48, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
-::::Okay, thanks! -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|YoshiFlutterJump]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|talk]]) 18:00, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
-== Chemistry in Baseball ==
-Does this game's Baseball mode have a chemistry system like the other Mario Baseball games?  If so, should we add information about it? -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|YoshiFlutterJump]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|talk]]) 01:56, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
-:I don't believe this game has any sort of chemistry function. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 02:00, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
-::Can confirm, there is no chemistry whatsoever. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:02, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
-== Mario, Gold Mario, Metal Mario, Peach, and Peach Gold Peach have the same animations! ==
-As I was saying, Mario, Gold Mario, Metal Mario, Peach, and Peach Gold Peach have the same animations!
-Check it out:
-<gallery>
-MarioHoleinOne.jpg|
-MetalMarioHoleinOne.jpg|
-MarioEagle.png|
-GoldMarioEagle.jpg|
-MetalMarioEagle.png|
-Peach eagle.jpg|
-PinkGoldPeachEagle.png|
-MarioBirdieMGWT.png|
-GoldMarioBirdie.jpg|
-MetalMarioBirdie.png|
-PeachBirdy.jpg|
-PinkGoldPeachBirdie.png|
-MarioParWT.jpg|
-GoldMarioPar.png|
-MetalMarioPar.png|
-Peach Par.png|
-PinkGoldPeachPar.png|
-MarioBogeyWorldTour.png|
-GoldMarioBogey.png|
-MetalMarioBogeySuperstars.png|
-Peach Bogey.jpg|
-PinkGoldPeachBogey.png|
-MarioDoubleBogey.png|
-GoldMarioDoubleBogey.jpg|
-Peach 3bogey.jpeg|Note: The reason why I added this picture because I can't find a Princess Peach Double Bogey picture.
-PinkGoldPeachDoubleBogey.png|
-</gallery>
-Metal Mario's double bogey animation is different.
-<gallery>
-MetalMarioDoubleBogey.png|The difference is him being buried by many Green Shells and Red Shells.
-</gallery> {{unsigned|5.66.8.133}}
-:...Ok? How is this news? [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 14:32, September 29, 2021 (EDT)
-== Split page? ==
-(Might be applicable to Mario Sports Mix)
-This is a big page. Would it be better if this article was somewhat split by sport? Advantages would be that information relevant to each sport would be all in one place so people don't have to scroll all over this page. Disadvantage would be article names, disambiguation, searching. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:42, August 3, 2024 (EDT)
-:On one hand, I could see all sports being separate pages considering they're treated as separate "games" within with two different studios working on the game, with their own unlock conditions (the metals, gear, and tournament cups are all separate unlocks), tutorials, assets (Tennis and Golf character models and ripped assets are noticably different, Baseball, Soccer, and Horse Racing character select icons are all more compressed, lower quality variants of Tennis and Golf plus use washed out textures, likely because those two sports are done by Camelot). On the other hand, other aspects of the game are merged, namely the trading card unlocks, Road to Superstar, plus I'm not a huge fan of reading information across many different articles compared to one spot, plus the disambiguation names and article names would be terrible. The Sports Mix sports do have more in common with each other than the Sports Superstars one though, so I think it's better in one article. I don't think the article itself is even that big right now, one of the bigger ones sure, but only at 83 in the Long pages list, so I don't think there is much to gain from a split. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 16:16, August 3, 2024 (EDT)