Editing Talk:Mario Kart World

== Move to "Untitled Mario Kart game"? ==

The game doesn't have a confirmed title, and the current one used for this article sounds as if it's an official name since it uses a similar title format as [[Luigi's Mansion (Nintendo 3DS)]] and [[Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)]]. [[Princess Peach: Showtime!]], for example, went by "Untitled Princess Peach game" before its reveal, so why should this game be an exception? "Untitled Mario Kart game" summarises the article's topic much more accurately in my opinion. {{User:RetroNintendo2008/sig}} 10:42, January 16, 2025 (EST)

:I forgot that's the name we gave to ''Showtime!'' I was going for what we used to name untitled games years ago on the wiki like [[Paper Mario (Nintendo 3DS)]] for ''Sticker Star''. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 11:26, January 16, 2025 (EST)
::I've moved it back, because Mario Kart (Nintendo Switch 2) is a far more descriptive title that people are more likely to search for (especially since in order to find this game on this wiki you have to type "Untitled" on the search bar). We've really used untitled for the Peach game just because it's an entirely new series/game so we can't 100% be sure for the title of that game, but this game off the bat is part of a series and we know "Mario Kart" will be part of it. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 13:40, January 16, 2025 (EST)

== I saw Bowser Jr. on the trailer ==

During the last section of the reveal, Bowser Jr. seems to be behind Baby Rosalina. I also think that Shy Guy is not seen playable, but due to an NPC Shy Guy appearing very close to King Boo on the distance, it gives the illusion that Shy Guy is there.
--[[User:Tiixi|Tiixi]] ([[User talk:Tiixi|talk]]) 13:09, January 16, 2025 (EST)

if you go frame by frame in the video you can see the shy guy follow behind king boo, suggesting they're also a playable character [[User:Golddude64|Golddude64]] ([[User talk:Golddude64|talk]]) 14:36, February 10, 2025 (EST)

==Donkey Kong design==

Currently, the page says that Donkey Kong's design in this game is based on how he looks in the ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]'', which is misleading since the design here is clearly just based on how [[Shigehisa Nakaue]] has [[:File:Nintendo recruitment book Daisy DK Wart.jpg|always drawn DK]], including in [[:File:TSMBM DK Diddy Kart Concept Art.jpeg|concept art for the movie itself]] which is why he had that design in the movie in the first place. [[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 13:15, January 16, 2025 (EST)
:That does make sense. Nakaue's artstyle is also the basis for the in-game artstyle for ''Super Mario Bros. Wonder'', which people immediately caught, but that game didn't have DK in it, so this might be the first time Nakaue's Donkey Kong is translated into 3D; no way people would recognize that right away. {{User:Arend/sig}} 14:37, January 16, 2025 (EST)
::There might be cause for people adding it, Way back in the [https://youtube.com/watch?v=ohJrpHUoZ10 second direct for the film], this design was hyped up as a "new design". And I quote, "We've also changed his design for the first time since he became a 3D model in the original ''Donkey Kong Country'' game" (4:52). So we'd also have to call a direct statement from Nintendo balderdash, when we do take Nintendo at their word for which games are in the Super Mario series. There may be cause to do exactly this, but I'm a non-artist so I can't pass judgement. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 17:19, January 16, 2025 (EST)
: I was gonna say that maybe not because of how people thought several moments in Brothership were references to [[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]] that were not but if Nintendo says it's a new design, then we shouldn't be saying it's not because we don't think it's not. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 21:12, January 16, 2025 (EST)
: It might have the same inspirations, but it being 3D automatically makes it a different design from the one used in 2D art. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|DesaMatt]] ([[User talk:DesaMatt|talk]]) 00:52, January 17, 2025 (EST)
::All we have seen of the design so far is some blurry footage. Putting it as DEFINITELY being based off the movie design is jumping the gun, especially since it clearly has some differences from the movie's design as well (eye width, etc.) [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 03:02, January 17, 2025 (EST)
::: I dunno. From what I can tell online, a lot of people are already saying it's inspired by the movie design. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 09:03, January 17, 2025 (EST)
:::: A lot of people can still be wrong. I think both the movie and the new Mario Kart's DK design are both taking design cues from the original Donkey Kong (Cranky)'s design, you can see it well [[:File:DKGB Donkey Kong with barrel.jpg|in this original art]], and how close that looks to [https://www.amazon.com/Donkey-Kong-2026-Wall-Calendar/dp/1419783475 this new 2026 calendar]. <small>(a bit early for one of those, isn't it?)</small> So it's more of a case of them redesigning DK to resemble the old design, and then this new iteration first appeared in the movie before making its way to games and 2D artwork. So while I agree that it does resemble DK's design in the movie, I would not say it was "inspired by" or "based on" it. {{User:LadySophie17/sig}} 09:14, January 17, 2025 (EST)

==King Bob-Omb==

At one point, you can see what might be King Bob-Omb. As suggested in this Twitter post (https://x.com/RHVGamer/status/1879960122891583914/photo/1), it might suggest he will be returning. [[User:edlde62|edlde62]] ([[User:edlde62|edlde62]]) 14:57, January 16, 2025 (EST)
:[https://x.com/MarcLeTwit/status/1879978716601938112?t=WsxajF9ed_Yp9biXcP9Whg&s=19 Pretty sure that's Lakitu instead]. And I honestly don't see King Bob-omb in it anyway: couldn't find the mustache like the tweet you linked described, nor any dark blue of his spherical body. Instead, I recognized Lakitu's glasses and his round yellow head. {{User:Arend/sig}} 15:02, January 16, 2025 (EST)



That's Bowser Jr. On a big spherical car.
--[[User:Tiixi|Tiixi]] ([[User talk:Tiixi|talk]]) 15:41, January 16, 2025 (EST)


Kinda looks like Queen Bee from Mario Kart 7. But it's probably Lakitu since he's a more common character.
https://targycomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/ProfilePic.png [[User:Hint Toad|Hint Toad]] ([[User talk:Hint Toad|talk]]) 16:43, March 19, 2025 (EDT)

=="It is the first completely new Mario Kart title for a Nintendo game system since Mario Kart 8 in 2014."==
Shouldn't [[Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit]] count? Live is a "completely new" Mario Kart, and although it's not exactly mainline, we don't know if this is either (although it 99.99% is... but it hasn't been confirmed yet). [[User:BlueYoshi-57EML|BlueYoshi-57EML]] ([[User talk:BlueYoshi-57EML|talk]]) 15:12, January 16, 2025 (EST)

If you ask me, Home Circuit feels more like an RC car than an actual game [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 16:49, January 16, 2025 (EST)

The correct wording would be the first "new traditional console entry" since Mario Kart 8, however we do not know yet if it is "traditional" and even then "traditional" is subjective. {{User:RealStuffMister/sig}} 12:18, March 3, 2025 (EST)

== About Peach on the bike not having her bike outfit ==

In the trailer, Peach is driving on a bike using her kart outfit and not the bike outfit seen since Mario Kart Wii, and this page does talk about that: "''Additionally, characters who previously were automatically given different outfits on bikes no longer do so''".

However, I wouldn't put such a bold claim like this in this page, and basically confirming it's not returning. Yes it is in the trailer, but not only is it a weird thing to remove considering every Mario Kart game that has included bikes brings back the bike outfits, but Peach's dress also clips weirdly on the bike in the trailer and this all just looks like beta footage and not actually something they removed, rather they haven't added full support yet. Or maybe it's a customization thing though it's unlikely since again, it so obviously clips into the bike that I doubt Nintendo would let this slide. {{User:Rodmjorgeh/sig}} 17:52, January 16, 2025 (EST)
:There is the chance of there being alternate costumes in the game. [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]
:If it's a customization thing, please note the use of the word "''automatically''" in that statement. There's a reason it's there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:17, January 16, 2025 (EST)

== Red Shell tires ==

In the trailer, Mario's tires are labeled with the brand name "RED SHELL" (presumably the manufacturer). How should the page characterize this? They aren't exactly a sponsor, since they don't have any advertisements posted on the race course. (It's also unclear whether this is the Red Shell Strike Equipment sponsor from previous games, since they seem to make red shell items, not car parts.) [[User:Nopad|Nopad]] ([[User talk:Nopad|talk]]) 14:51, January 17, 2025 (EST)

I think it should be considered a sponsor for now, at least. (Especially because Luigi's car has the words "Blue Shell" on it, which is currently being considered a sponsor.) [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 16:27, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

There are advertisements on the track for both Red Shell and Spiny Shell/Blue Shell- Red Shell Speed Tires and Spiny Shell Engine respectively. They do appear in the trailer, though I don't have timestamps to hand. [[User:HammerBrosPlumbing|HammerBrosPlumbing]] ([[User talk:HammerBrosPlumbing|talk]]) 08:26, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== Daisy Air Freshener Orange ==

In the area by the diner, there's an add for a new Daisy Air Freshener Orange, but on the article it seems to have been mislabeled as Princess Orange. The designs are similar, so Daisy Air Freshener Orange might be a new product under the same company as Princess Orange, but they are two different products! [[User:Sarasalandian|<span style="color:#f60;font-family:serif">Sarasalandian</span>]] 13:14, January 20, 2025 (PST)

== Images for sponsors ==

could we get some images for the sponsor list? or at least images for the sponsors somewhere else? [[User:Golddude64|Golddude64]] ([[User talk:Golddude64|talk]]) 14:01, February 20, 2025 (EST)
:there should be a [[List of sponsors debuting in Mario Kart World|List of sponsors debuting in Mario Kart (Nintendo Switch 2)]] page for them, i'll make it today. {{User:RealStuffMister/sig}} 11:49, March 1, 2025 (EST)

== Feather and Gold Shell items ==

In the new Switch 2 Parental Controls trailer, Bowser Jr. can be seen with the feather, even holding it behind him at times. On the website for Mario Kart World, the video for the Grand Prix shows a gold shell in the item roulette for less than a second at the very beginning. Just so these can be added to the Items section. --[[User:AGamer64|AGamer64]] ([[User talk:AGamer64|talk]]) 12:19, April 2, 2025 (EST)

I saw a gold shell on the website too. https://targycomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/ProfilePic.png [[User:Hint Toad|Hint Toad]] ([[User talk:Hint Toad|talk]]) 13:41, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

Aside from the items, Nintendo Today has a few screenshots showing some vehicle designs and Mario outfits. --[[User:AGamer64|AGamer64]] ([[User talk:AGamer64|talk]]) 14:28, April 2, 2025 (EST)

== Coin Coffer ==

Coin Coffer appears twice in the [https://youtu.be/9flte56erE8?si=2bBOTJR9myWIgvev Switch 2 Overview Trailer]. First at 0:21 on the minimap and again at 5:14 driving a kart. I'm sure this will be added to the page soon but I wanted to be the first person on the wiki to report the big Coin Coffer news.

--Coin Coffer #1 Fan [[User:Steepien|Steepien]] ([[User talk:Steepien|talk]]) 12:44, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Luma is not Confirmed Playable ==

The screenshot used to show Luma being playable is just Peach from behind zoomed out. 
Link for proof: https://bsky.app/profile/toontris.bsky.social/post/3lltvooizxc2c --[[User:Murkardolum|Murkardolum]] ([[User talk:Murkardolum|talk]]) 14:06, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Retro tracks ==

I've spotted SNES Ghost Valley (1 to 3) at the top right corner of the map, in front of the Theatre.

Have you seen more retro tracks ? {{unsigned|81.220.208.107}}

== Gushen spotted in Direct ==

At roughly 34:07, in front of Bowser Jr. you can see a large blue blob, i believe this to be Gushen with its giant Bubble around it; you can even see it wiggling inside. ~ Pinapplelover1 [21:06 02/04/25]

== Items not yet listed - Coin, Golden Mushroom, Gold Shell ==

I don't seem to be able to edit the main page, so I'll add the information here.

Coin - Trailed at 3:19 (MKW video), roulette at ~8:00 (NS2 Direct)

Golden Mushroom - Held at 1:59 (MKW), trailed at some point, roulette at some point (didn't write down timestamps, sorry)

Gold Shell - Already mentioned here, but not added yet. Thrown at 3:55 (MKW), roulette on nintendo.com (and I think somewhere in the NS2 Direct), trailed at 8:05 (NS2).

I also have screenshots of these and all other items on this Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarioKartWorld/comments/1jpsby6/all_items_shown_so_far/

[[User:Shadow Walker13|Shadow Walker13]] ([[User talk:Shadow Walker13|talk]]) 16:06, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Barrel car? ==

Did anyone else see a "barrel car" on a road in the trailer? I remember it being in a shot with a big bridge. [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 16:18, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Additional Footage ==

When the Switch 2 team is talking about the specs, they show additional footage of Mario Kart World, such as Mario going across a body of water with Ty-Foos. They show even more when discussing the GameChat feature. Someone should probably look into/upload screenshots from these. [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 16:22, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Who is this character? ==

I was looking at footage of the Knockout Tour mode on the website, and I noticed an icon in the top right that I didn't recognize, between Toad and Toadette. A green head with a helmet and what looks like a duck bill, which to me seems like a new racer, I just have no clue who it could be assuming it's not someone we already know.
The video in question: https://assets.nintendo.com/video/upload/f_auto:video,q_auto/Marketing/68272fb37fa56918996af8bfceddbc4223c2746af7c325b2067f0c62c65ef8c0/exp_b2cfe1/4-knockout/Finish_USen.mp4
--[[User:AGamer64|AGamer64]] ([[User talk:AGamer64|talk]]) 16:44, April 2, 2025 (EST)

That's Baby Luigi wearing a racing helmet.--[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 17:11, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
:No, that's Lakitu wearing a racing helmet. Baby Luigi's in last. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:14, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
https://i.imgur.com/my5EHfl.png No, it's definitely Baby Luigi. Lakitu doesn't have an L emblem, and that's clearly Baby Luigi's nose. --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 17:16, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
::That's obviously not an "icon." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:03, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

It can't be Baby Luigi because he comes in 20th. I'm talking about whatever character came in 9th according to the scoreboard at the top. --[[User:AGamer64|AGamer64]] ([[User talk:AGamer64|talk]]) 17:47, April 2, 2025 (EST)

Oh, in that case, Doc is right. It's Lakitu.--[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 21:42, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
:Specifically, it appears to be this:
:[[File:MKWorld Lakitu racing outfit.png|200px]]<br>
:-[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:41, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Veterans and Newcomers? ==

None of the other Mario Kart articles are formatted this way, and the "Veteran/Newcomer" naming thematic is a Smash Bros thing. All other Mario Kart pages lump the cast together and have "new" tags next to the new characters rather than separating them between old and new. Shouldn't this page do the same? --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 17:13, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Wheel Customization ==

The Vehicles section of the article claims that "wheels are no longer customizable". I've seen no evidence of this. Does anyone have a source here? --[[User:Snorka|Snorka]] ([[User talk:Snorka|talk]]) 17:51, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

The vehicles on the selection screen have predefined wheels, as opposed to MK8, where they didn't. [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 10:42, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

== Is Conkdor Really a Racer? ==

I looked at the image for Conkdor and it looks like it's just a stage obstacle and not a racer but I'm not sure... could I get a timestamp of when it appears so I can analyze it? [[User:Golddude64|Golddude64]] ([[User talk:Golddude64|talk]]) 18:09, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

:Conkdor has a racer icon, he is playable: https://bsky.app/profile/nantenjex.bsky.social/post/3lltuaqjdh22u --[[User:Murkardolum|Murkardolum]] ([[User talk:Murkardolum|talk]]) 20:21, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

== Should we start adding confirmed languages to the info box, same for Donkey Kong Bananza? ==

I know this may be a bit early, but since it was confirmed that this game would be playable in Brazilian Portuguese, I was wondering if I can start adding it into the info box along with English and Japanese? 

I think we know it will also be playable in most of the Switch 2’s other supported languages (Dutch, French (Canada), French (France), German, Italian, Korean, Simplified Chinese, Spanish (Latin America), Spanish (Spain) and Traditional Chinese), but it’s unknown if European Portuguese and Russian will also be supported, as well as any other new language if added onto Switch 2. 

EDIT: The European pages confirm Russian as a supported language, but still unknown if European Portuguese will be. If I had to guess, probably will, but I won’t add it until it’s confirmed. 

EDIT from 2/9/25: Turns out the game is actually gonna be in European Portuguese as well. [[User:CarlosYoshiBoi|CarlosYoshiBoi]] ([[User talk:CarlosYoshiBoi|talk]]) 16:02, April 2, 2025 (PDT)

== Boshi ==

There was an entry on the references section mentioning the dark blue Yoshi skin being based on Boshi-
* [[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars]]: One of Yoshi's costumes is based on the appearance of [[Boshi]].
-but it was removed for being "an assumption", but I feel like it's pretty obvious it's inspired by Boshi? The sunglasses, dark blue skin, and red spiked collar are all traits of Boshi. If it were the light blue Yoshi or a different color or whatever, then sure, it's not Boshi, but I feel like this is a deliberate reference/homage. {{Unsigned|SuperGeno1996}}

The skin has features of Boshi, but there's also enough differences in the design to make the intent questionable. You're honing in on the similarities while disregarding the differences.--[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 21:48, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

:I remember seeing this Yoshi costume the first time watching the Direct but I can't find the scene again for the life of me. But I think it's a clear reference to Boshi by the dark blue colour and he has the same design of red, spiked collar. That's not saying it's exactly Boshi, but I think the collar would be a clear-enough reference (if I could just find a clear image of it), compared to if it were just sunglasses or something. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 04:48, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
::My two cents? The red collar with white spikes is suspect, but if you look carefully, the design looks more derived from Bowser's than Boshi's. It's also too soon to tell if this costume has its own palette swaps. If it turns out to be specific to this color of Yoshi, then the similarity can be noted, but it'd just be a loose reference. Note that the Direct otherwise has zero reference to the ''Super Mario RPG'' remake, despite all the other Nintendo Switch 2 Editions. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:50, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== Missing Daisy & Baby Daisy Costumes ==


Hi, sorry, I found 4 Daisy Costumes not in the article yet, and 2 missing for Baby Daisy! I don't know how to add an image directly here so I just made a Google Site!       
(  https://sites.google.com/view/mariowiki-daisy-costumes/home  )
Most of the images were from either the trailer or the Japanese article on Mario Kart World. If specific links are required please just let me know and I will provide them. Thanks, please check them out and add the costumes to the article! (Also, I said so before, but the Princess Orange listed in sponsors is actually a new sponsor: Daisy Air Freshener Orange)          02:05, April 3, 2025 (EDT)~[[User:Sarasalandian|<span style="color:#f60;font-family:serif">Sarasalandian</span>]] 23:02, April 2, 2025 (PST)

== I think I saw a heavy fire bro in the trailer ==
[[File:Heavy fire bro2.png|thumb]]
<s>Could someone add this to the background character section, since it doesn't have an image yet? (I know the image is blurry, but it is better than nothing) {{unsigned|Vil716}}</s>

== I heard an arrangement of Sky Station Galaxy ==
Can this be put into references to galaxy 2? --[[User:MarioGalaxyBros2006|MarioGalaxyBros2006]] ([[User talk:MarioGalaxyBros2006|talk]]) 10:54, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
:You can also hear MK8's rendition of GBA Ribbon Road, Tour Tokyo Blur, MKWii's first ending theme, N64 Sherbet Land/Frappee Snowland and Piranha Plant's Lullaby from SM64 in various maps. [[User:Piotrek1113|Piotrek1113]] ([[User talk:Piotrek1113|talk]]) 12:39, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== Some images to use in this article ==
Seagull [[File:Mariokartworld seagull.png]]
Boo Crew [[File:Boo crew.png]]

{{unsigned|Vil716}}

== Wario Stadium ==

[[Special:Diff/4815749|Anon here]] had a point: do we know for sure if the Wario Stadium in this game is the N64 version? Like from piecing together the layout from different footage (if there is some), or has there been hands-on videos from today that have confirmed this? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 12:32, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

Yes, [https://youtu.be/OBvbJ-A_XMk?feature=shared&t=260 this video] here can show you gameplay of the course, which is clearly a take on N64 Wario Stadium, rage inducing lightning jump and all. --[[User:LuigiTime202|LuigiTime202]] ([[User talk:LuigiTime202|talk]]) 03:28, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Potential new character (Some kind of robot pig?) ==

Can anyone identify what this icon on the map is? It doesn't look familiar to me at all, almost like a robot pig. Could be a gameplay mechanic? Thought  it was a toad skin but it doesn't seem to align perfectly with his head
Source: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/04/gallery-get-a-closer-look-at-mario-kart-world-in-these-fresh-switch-2-screenshots#enlarge-15
{{external image|https://i.postimg.cc/6pdjSpP2/Screenshot-2025-04-03-180011.png}}
--[[User:BubzieBobkat|BubzieBobkat]] ([[User talk:BubzieBobkat|talk]]) 13:07, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
:I think the "nose" is actually Toad's eyes and he's got some holographic visor thing in front of him. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:40, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== I think I figured out the fact of how to do the common 3 laps seen in past games. ==

Just turn off the option "Intermissions".
{{unsigned|Laggamer20xx}}

== Gold shell renamed to Coin Shell ==

I was watching the Treehouse livestream, and somthing interesting I noticed that should be reflected in the article is the renaming of the Gold Shell to the Coin Shell. [[Special:Contributions/68.216.63.134|68.216.63.134]] 17:21, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== Discrepancy in number of vehicles? ==

The article states there are 24 vehicles, but there are (currently) 28 listed. [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 17:24, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== Is Rocky Wrench a costume? ==

Has the possibility of Rocky Wrench being a costume for Monty Mole been ruled out? I have no hard evidence for this, but they do share the same colors for the "Standard" kart. [[Special:Contributions/71.228.180.99|71.228.180.99]] 19:03, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
:It'll probably be better to wait until the Direct to see if there's more confirmation. After all, the best indicator would be that they share a pose on the select screen and/or share their emblem. And of course, if the new burger item lets them transform between each other. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 19:21, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
:I don't remember which video this screenshot is from, but his emblem is visible in some of the footage from the 2nd and it's a wrench: https://i.imgur.com/hl8bRx8.png Besides, they were ''just'' redesigned in the MK8D DLC to look less like Monty Moles so that wouldn't make sense. --[[User:Skittles|Skittles]] ([[User talk:Skittles|talk]]) 07:27, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
::[https://bsky.app/profile/nantenjex.bsky.social/post/3lltujxha5c2f They can appear] [https://assets.nintendo.com/video/upload/f_auto:video,q_auto/Marketing/68272fb37fa56918996af8bfceddbc4223c2746af7c325b2067f0c62c65ef8c0/exp_b2cfe1/2-world/world_cource_01_ProRes.mp4 in races together], so I doubt it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 10:40, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Moon Rally route is known. ==

The route of the moon rally can be found [[https://youtu.be/lhLFCEylSn8|here]] at 0:42. It goes, in order, from;

- the Bowser track in the northwest
- Toad’s Factory
- Moo Moo Meadows
- Jungle track with underground
- Feudal Japan track
- Faraway Oasis

[[User:Albuquerque|Albuquerque]] ([[User talk:Albuquerque|talk]]) 20:17, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== there's probably 84 characters ==

I got this number by looking at how in the Mario Kart world tree house there are 7 pages with 12 characters each {{unsigned|Fym}}

:The last page might not have a full page of 12 characters. It's best not to jump the gun on speculation and just wait for further confirmation. Not to mention that different outfits get their own character icon which is a bit different than entirely separate characters (as the outfits can swap between one another via the burger item). [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:31, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

== Character Select Poses Reference Artwork? ==

Watching the Treehouse video and getting a clear look at the character select screen, it seems like various characters' in-game poses are references to various artworks. For example, Mario's is based on his art from ''[[:Mario - Mario Party 10.png|Mario Party 10]]'', Luigi's from ''[[:NSMBU Luigi Jumping Artwork.png|New Super Mario Bros. U]]'', Yoshi's from ''[[:MP9 Yoshi Artwork.png|Mario Party 9]]'', Toad's from ''[[:MP8 Toad Main Artwork.png|Mario Party 8]]'' (flipped), and Koopa Troopa's from ''[[:KoopatroopaNSMBU.png|New Super Mario Bros. U]]'' (recoloured). Although we don't list reusing of artwork as references to other media, should these be included in that section? [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 00:20, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== King Boo Render? ==

I saw that King Boo had a render for his photo but it got removed and changed to a screenshot? is there a reason for this? [[User:Golddude64|Golddude64]] ([[User talk:Golddude64|talk]]) 03:34, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Musical References ==

In the Mushroom Cup Grand Prix, the sections between courses featured new arrangements of Sky Station Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy 2, Tokyo Blur from Mario Kart Tour, and Ribbon Road from Mario Kart: Super Circuit, respectively. Also, the lobby music for Knockout Tour is an arrangement of the first half of the credits theme from Mario Kart Wii. {{unsigned|Yoshiregan}}

== "Koopa hotel" ==

I anticipate this particular issue taking months to resolve, so here's a dedicated section of the discussion page to work this out in the open so we don't have to settle it through edit and revert summaries.

Is "[[Koopa hotel]]" a ''[[Hotel Mario]]'' reference? On one hand, it feels too specific to be unintentional. Or rather, if it ''is'' unintentional, it's too specific for there not to have been at least ''one'' person thinking "hey, are we making a ''Hotel Mario'' reference in this game?" at some point in the process between someone writing the text "Koopa hotel" on a texture and that text appearing in a trailer.

On the other hand, it feels uncharacteristic for Nintendo EPD (or any part of Nintendo, really) to directly acknowledge the existence of ''Hotel Mario''. For just about any other ''Mario'' game from the 1990s, it wouldn't be a question if the exact name of a key concept from that game's story appearing in a modern release is a reference or not, but ''Hotel Mario'' isn't just any 1990s ''Mario'' game. This is a game that has historically been pushed under the rug, as a part of ''Super Mario'' history incompatible with the modern brand image. It would be ''really really weird'' for a game released in 2025 to directly reference this game.

It is unlikely that we will ever get a direct confirmation or denial about this, so the open question is: how should the Super Mario Wiki cover this? Does it belong in the "list of references" section of this article? Is it a ''possible'' reference that wouldn't go on the list of references but is worth mentioning on the Koopa hotel article or on the [[List of sponsors debuting in Mario Kart World|list of sponsors debuting in ''Mario Kart World'']]? Or is it such a stretch that it shouldn't be acknowledged at all? I'm completely undecided right now, but I'd be interested in everyone else's suggestions for which solution would be the best in this case. {{User:JanMisali/sig}} 12:36, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
:I think the wiki can't ''not'' mention it in some form. The only context I've seen this hotel acknowledged so far is in relation to ''Hotel Mario''. The name choice here is really specific, such that it's inevitably going to be edited into the article several times over if its not already there. Nintendo has referenced [https://x.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1461420095452762112 Wand of Gamelon] before [https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/jy4m0z/aoc_did_i_just_see_a_reference_to_morshu/ multiple times], so there is a non-zero chance it's intentional.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 15:15, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
:I don't think it's too specific. It's a city location, there are Koopas (one of many characters referenced in buildings and sponsors) - it's very possible they would have come up with the name on their own and that it's just a coincidence. I think the mention of the shared name on [[Koopa hotel#Notes]] (and maybe on [[Crown City]]'s page too) is good enough. Also, the name appears in all versions, so it would be a reference on the developers' part in Japan and not the localisers, which seems less likely. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:40, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Dixie Kong in trailer and Cranky Kong allegedly in files ==

It won’t let me add the screenshot but the back of Dixie Kong has been spotted in the trailer and Cranky Kong is apparently in testing. {{unsigned|Joeyxclr}}
:Could you post a picture of Dixie elsewhere, then? Imgur, maybe? Also, we need a source for this Cranky Kong thing. {{User:Arend/sig}} 14:06, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Can someone change the Dolphin picture to this? ==

https://www.mariowiki.com/File:MKWMooMoo.jpg

He’s on the Dolphin Dasher in the bottom right corner. Looks much better than the current rear-view shot of him. 
[[User:Tolstartheking|Tolstartheking]] ([[User talk:Tolstartheking|talk]])Tolstartheking April 4, 2025 (EDT)
:Rather blurry, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:31, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
The existing photo of him is very blurry as well. At least this one shows his face. [[User:Tolstartheking|Tolstartheking]] ([[User talk:Tolstartheking|talk]])

== Possible addition of opening relevant courses via map ==

I had an idea that I sort-of wanted to port over from the Super Mario World section of this wiki as seen [[Super Mario World#Worlds_and_levels|here]].
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Just something I thought up while looking through as a mere afterthought. It's fine if not.
--[[User:MarioTheGre|MarioTheGre]] ([[User talk:MarioTheGre|talk]]) 15:44, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Vehicle that spawns Mushrooms + Item Boxes ==

Alongside a [https://imgur.com/aONtMfJ truck that spawns mushrooms] that has been seen in the main Mario Kart World video and some gameplay videos, there is also a vehicle that spawns both mushrooms and item boxes behind it. The latter can be seen in [https://youtu.be/sKOn7UElFuY?t=1120 this video] at 18:40.

Edit: It looks like there is a vehicle that spawns super stars behind it as well. See [https://youtu.be/5tpO6wrz5QA?t=605 this video] at ~10:06. Later in the video at ~11:15, a vehicle that looks the same spawns a food bag.

Edit 2: The mushroom + item box vehicle can also spawn coins and boxes. See [https://youtu.be/C1hO9O8eKG8?t=275 this video] at ~4:35.

[[User:Shadow Walker13|Shadow Walker13]] ([[User talk:Shadow Walker13|talk]]) 18:06, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Rainbow Road would be accidentally leaked by Nintendo of Korea ==

https://x.com/AuzanetMat93494/status/1908216123293626521

I had to add the link here from an user post. You can check Nintendo of Korea's youtube channel and the website about Mario Kart World [[Special:Contributions/176.161.231.85|176.161.231.85]] 18:50, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
:it's literally written on the page already {{User:RealStuffMister/sig}} 19:08, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Autumnal course ==

Is there really no evidence of this course's name anywhere? It's the only course in the entire game we don't have the name of? I think finding the name of this course should be a pretty big priority right now {{User:RealStuffMister/sig}} 19:07, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
:Technically, we don't know the name for the lava course with the Bowser Monument either, even if we are 99% certain that it's going to be Bowser's Castle. Either way, something tells me that we're gonna find out about the autumn course's name in the upcoming Mario Kart Direct regardless. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:17, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

== Remaining Cups ==

combing through lots of footage ive 99% confirmed the remaining 4 cups. i figured out the cup from after the race it shows the cup trophy, and the paths from little animation before each race where it shows you going from the previous track to current.

Banana Cup: Dino Dino Jungle, Great ? Block Ruins, Peach Beach, Salty Salty Speedway

Leaf Cup: Undetermined-name autumnal feudal japan course, Dandelion Depths, Boo Cinema, Dry Bones Burnout

Lightning Cup: Moo Moo Meadows, Choco Mountain, Toad's Factory, Bowser's Castle

Special Cup (confirmed by [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096529510867943585/1358029275244265472/IMG_9421.png?ex=67f25ad2&is=67f10952&hm=5b9a3323742e92cd59b0537d9b8e15c7f8f9ab2606e9f6bfa417acb03673cdae&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1104&height=899 cup trophy]
): Acorn Heights, Mario Circuit (snes), ???, Rainbow Road

only thing unknown at the moment is the 3rd track of special cup. it's likely another version of peach stadium the same way crown city is there twice, but it's the only thing i cant confirm. sorry again for not providing 2 million screenshots as proof of these but i combed through various twitch vods and youtube uploads of people playing the demos and really dont want to go back to find them. so yeah putting this because i think it's important {{unsigned|B0ssguy}}
:I gotchu: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBvbJ-A_XMk I've watched Dawko's vid] and that same trophy is indeed shown after the Peach Stadium race which begins at Mario Circuit (this pretty much lines up with the map that Nintendo of Korea shared, which shows Rainbow Road to be accessible through Peach Stadium). The vid also shows the Lightning Cup trophy after the Toad's Factory race starting at Choco Mountain too.<br>As for the rest of your findings, you could maybe share the YouTube videos themselves, I think that works too. {{User:Arend/sig}} 09:02, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

== Adding a "differences from previous games" section? ==

Would it be valid to add a section for mechanical differences from previous games in the series? Stuff like Lakitu once again making the screen black and removing your items, or stuff like how the fireball item can only spawn 7 balls now instead of 15 like in 8DX, or is that sort of stuff out of scope for the wiki?
{{unsigned|Zachruff}}

isn't the lakitu making the screen black in wii? {{unsigned|Whoismacaroni}}

== Balloon Battle and Coin Runners confirmed ==

In the linked screenshot [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:MKWorld_Knockout_Tour_Menu.png here] it shows evidence of Balloon Battle and Coin Runners returning as playable battle modes. We could at least make some small mention of it in the page and note that courses like N64 Big Donut and Wii Thwomp Desert have been spotted as part of transitions between courses, because it could be possible that they're used in battle. 

This is my first time making a suggestion on any wiki ever so if I'm out of line lemme know. 
--[[User:LuigiTime202|LuigiTime202]] ([[User talk:LuigiTime202|talk]]) 03:34, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Could someone add Boom Boom as an obstacle? ==

This reddit post shows boom boom as an obstacle. The maker says the boom boom was summoned by kamek. Could maybe be added to the obstacles list? 

https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/s/okDDZBsDp1 {{unsigned|CasperTheGhost19}}

== Point Spread Comparisons? ==

I see a lot of Mario Kart pages in the wiki that have point spread comparison tables (that is to say, a table comparing Mario Kart games to each other related to how many points a person will earn when finishing a race in any given position). Should we add one to this page? You can get the values from any Nintendo Treehouse video that played in Grand Prix mode. (15,12,10,9,9,8,8,7,7,6,6,6,5,5,5,4,4,4,3,3,3,2,2,1)
--[[User:LuigiTime202|LuigiTime202]] ([[User talk:LuigiTime202|talk]]) 06:33, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Various unrecorded stage elements I've seen ==

Heart Rally - Boom Boom, Thwomp, Sumo Bros, Fish Bones, Bone Piranha Plant, Dry Bones & Fire Snake: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPAJMJ68Aak&t=20m21s Video 1], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lObETAP3v8&t=212s Video 2]

Toad Factory to Bowser Bastle - Lava Bubble & multiple Boom Booms
- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazuoaOpM3c Video] (Timestamps: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazuoaOpM3c&t=30m58s Lava Bubble], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazuoaOpM3c&t=29m39s Boom Booms])

Cherry Rally - Cheep Chomp: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSGG_kKLGV4&T=343s Video 1], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2RTX0bmNs&t=19m53s Video 2]

Armadillo, Elephant & Innertube Goomba: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MQtHghhp3A Video] (Timestamps: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MQtHghhp3A&t=3m16s Armadillo & Elephant], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MQtHghhp3A&t=11m59s Innertube Goomba]) 

[[User:MagentaFace27|MagentaFace27]] 
([[User talk:MagentaFace27|talk]]) 08:45, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== More Music References ==

Here are some musical references I found out on a Mario Kart Tour Discord server.

* Forest of Illusion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_vRkrN6sQ&t=589s
* Toad Harbor - https://youtu.be/cHaOXxtgH6U?si=erAw_tikpcicsAS9&t=382
* Wario Land theme - https://youtu.be/cHaOXxtgH6U?si=Xhhcrt7fULj7BAIh&t=450
{{Unsigned|Tylerfunf555}}
:It's likely that the Forest of Illusion theme is part of a Super Mario World map medley. A bit earlier in the same video, the Yoshi's Island map theme played as well. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:54, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Grand Prix Cup References ==

According to this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHaOXxtgH6U, Moo Moo Meadows -> Choco Mountain is part of the Lightning Cup, and Dandelion Depths -> Boo Cinema is part of the Leaf Cup.

--{{User|Hbthebattle}} 14:16, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Finally found footage of the Spiny Rally & it's of the entire Rally ==

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHaOXxtgH6U&t=978s

Though this, we get confirmation on '''Peepas''', '''Snowballs''', '''Snow Pokeys''' & '''Dragoneel''' as obstacles, along with giving us a close-up look of the '''Chill Bully'''.

I also noticed '''Parachuting Item Boxes''' on the leadup to Peach Beach

<gallery>
MKW Peepas.png|
MKW-Snowball.png|
MKW-Snow Pokey.png|
MKW Dragoneel.png|
MKW Chill Bully-Spiny Rally.png|
MKW Parachuting Item Box.png|
</gallery>

[[User:MagentaFace27|MagentaFace27]] ([[User talk:MagentaFace27|talk]]) 14:19, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Biker Daisy not Pro Racer ==

Hi, I'm sorry, I noticed that Biker Daisy was labeled as Pro Racer Daisy in the costume section of the article, when we've seen Pro Racer Daisy in the treehouse, and she has a separate costume from Biker Daisy - an orange suit, and backwards crown cap with teal rim (I put it on the site mentioned earlier) That's all!

[[User:Sarasalandian|<span style="color:#f60;font-family:serif">Sarasalandian</span>]] 13:14, January 20, 2025 (PST)

== Using Silver's video to get temporary placeholders for missing item icons ==

Hi! I think that editors can use [https://youtu.be/RlZ7UhhvOv8 this video] to extract most of the missing item icons, like [https://files.milkcool.ru/f/xrkbxata/boo.png this Boo icon] {{unsigned|Milkcool}}

== Peach Beach ==

are we seriously not going to say this is Peach Beach? The layout matches, it's got Cataquacks, its in a place called "Peach Resort". With Tour courses we always edited articles and listed the courses before the name's were confirmed because we could very clearly see the course was the same: the same applies here. We do not need a source for its name considering the course is 24 years old and it matches identically, it's even got the small square area by the starting line. {{User:RealStuffMister/sig}} 16:04, April 6, 2025 (EDT)
[[File:MKWD PeachBeach.png|thumb]]
:While I have no strong opinion on whether we should call this Peach Beach at this moment, I do feel like calling it "Peach Resort" at this moment is at least as conjectural as calling it GCN Peach Beach would be. This game has a lot of cases of courses having signage that is not the actual course name - see GCN Dino Dino Jungle having "Dino Laboratory" signage all over, or Salty Salty Speedway having signage for "Lagoon City". As such, having a name displayed on signage doesn't really feel like a clearer indicator of what this course's name is than, well, the entire layout and course gimmicks, as YoYo pointed out. While I do feel like the course layout should be enough to put this as GCN Peach Beach for now, I also think it's fair to leave it with a purely descriptive name for now. It's mostly using the name from the signage that feels a bit too conjectural for me. [[User:UnderFlorence|UnderFlorence]] ([[User talk:UnderFlorence|talk]]) 16:36, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

== Peach Stadium has two tracks like Crown City ==

It appears that there is a second Peach Stadium track that is driven to from the SNES Mario Circuit track, based on this video (timestamp 12:24).

Can this be added to the list of tracks on the wiki?

https://youtu.be/QPAJMJ68Aak?t=744 [[Special:Contributions/131.247.224.203|131.247.224.203]] 00:42, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

== The cups that each of the tracks are in ==

The Great ? Block Ruins track is the last track in the Banana Cup (this image shows the path to it from GCN Dino Dino Jungle: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004906788291870730/1358681187173928960/IMG_2181.png?ex=67f4b9f6&is=67f36876&hm=ac4f2bb6e83fe5a106c22e6313d6f5a0e5ee65b426c4931f454379307c08f20c&)

The Dry Bones Burnout track is the last course in the Leaf Cup (this video, at 16:01, shows the track being driven to from Boo Cinema, which has already been identified as the third course in the cup: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/2422809474?desktop-redirect=true&t=16m01s)

The Bowser’s Castle track is the last course in the Lightning Cup (this video, at 5:39:34, shows the track being driven to from Wii Toad’s Factory, which has already been identified as the third course in the cup: https://m.twitch.tv/videos/2422691214?desktop-redirect=true&t=5h39m34s)

The last unknown cup has Acorn Heights and SNES Mario Circuit as back to back tracks (this video, at 7:25, shows the driving between these two tracks: https://youtu.be/PXPsabT3Dhg?t=445).

In addition, Peach Stadium (second route) is after SNES Mario Circuit in this unknown cup (this video, at 12:24, shows the second Peach Stadium route being driven to from SNES Mario Circuit: https://youtu.be/QPAJMJ68Aak?t=744)

By process of elimination, this would place Rainbow Road as the last course in the unknown cup. 

Can this all be added to the wiki?

[[Special:Contributions/131.247.224.203|131.247.224.203]] 01:02, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

== Language list source? ==

Is there any confirmation on whether the languages in the game are as mentioned on the page? [[Special:Contributions/91.94.24.133|91.94.24.133]] 01:18, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

== Audience/Obstacle Overlap ==

I see some overlap between entries in the audience and obstacle sections (ex. [[Stingby]]). Should they be included in both? [[User:Jumbo Ray|Jumbo Ray]] ([[User talk:Jumbo Ray|talk]])

== We do not yet know the course order for cups after Shell Cup ==

These listings seem to be based on not very good sources, i suggest they just be listed out of order in "more courses" for now [[Special:Contributions/2.102.37.188|2.102.37.188]] 21:39, April 7, 2025 (EDT)
:We see them going from course A to course B, which means that, going by how the GP mode is said to work, A is right before B in its order, for instance. The only way that the order of the cups as given here is not the actual order in the GPs is if the setups used to demo the GPs don't actually present content from the GP mode (and just random VS races, I suppose?), but at that point we might as well discount anything else we see from these demos. [[User:UnderFlorence|UnderFlorence]] ([[User talk:UnderFlorence|talk]]) 06:43, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
::Would this mean that actually the orders of the mushroom, flower, star and special would be invalid? probably not though, but using fan made youtube videos is also not a valid source [[Special:Contributions/2.102.37.188|2.102.37.188]] 14:54, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
:::Why would using screen recordings of an official event not be a valid source? It's showing off footage of the game, held at an official event, with permission by Nintendo to film at the event. If "fan made videos" were not a valid source, then stuff like tons of documentation on glitches would also be invalid. Any screenshots or videos on this wiki that were created by wiki editors to document levels, enemies, etc are also "fan made," should these also be removed? If we only ever were allowed to use Nintendo sources, then this wiki would be immensely empty and, for example, we wouldn't be able to document most endgame or postgame elements of games (like the last few secret levels of Mario Wonder), since any source for them would be "fan made." [[User:UnderFlorence|UnderFlorence]] ([[User talk:UnderFlorence|talk]]) 09:07, April 11, 2025 (EDT)
I suggest, whoever sees this to remove them immediately [[Special:Contributions/2.102.37.188|2.102.37.188]] 20:43, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

== You are shielded from the Lightning item when underneath a roof in-game ==

I was watching [https://youtu.be/XLIP1BNAYaY?feature=shared&t=380 Shortcat's video on Mario Kart, and at this timestamp] he points out that the Lightning item doesn't effect you if you're in the tunnel during this transition by showing footage from a Japanese X (Twitter) user playing the demo. I myself refuse to get X, so my suggestion entails someone who does have this platform to go to the user's page, find the post, and use it as a source to add this information to the wiki. To save time, the user's account is "@jakusya_ss". --[[User:LuigiTime202|LuigiTime202]] ([[User talk:LuigiTime202|talk]]) 02:51, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

== Shouldn't we be using the character's default outfits for the character section? ==

This concerns the following characters:
<gallery>
MKWorld Luigi.png|[[Luigi]]
MKWorld Peach.png|[[Princess Peach|Peach]]
MKWorld Bowser Jr.png|[[Bowser Jr.]]
</gallery>
On the [[Mario Kart World#Returning characters|Returning characters]] section, we use the official artwork for these three characters, but as you can see, ''these are NOT their default outfits'', as Luigi is in his Pro Racer costume, Peach is in her Touring costume, and Bowser Jr. is in his Biker Jr. costume. Wouldn't it make more sense if we showed these characters in their default outfits instead?<br>Oh, and side note: on the the [[Mario Kart World#Character costumes|Character costumes]] section, we're using Luigi and Peach's artwork for their Pro Racer and Touring costumes respectively, but for some reason, we're NOT using Bowser Jr's artwork for his Biker Jr. costume. Similarly, Pauline's Aero costume has been replaced from her artwork from the key art, yet Daisy's Swimwear costume is ''still'' from the key art? Shouldn't Bowser Jr. and Pauline use their official artwork in order to be consistent with Luigi, Peach and Daisy? {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:00, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
:I assume the reasoning here is to prefer renders wherever possible. In my eyes, wanting to use the default outfit for a character feels akin to wanting them represented on the Standard Kart: certainly sensible for consistency, and in a perfect world where every setup had a render, it would be preferred. But only some of these have renders, and so the highest-quality artwork (and also the artwork that was chosen by Nintendo to be representative of the game, since they created those renders and featured them on the boxart and website) was used.

:As for why some characters don't use their renders from the key art, those don't seem to have been released in an isolated form and would need to be cropped from the key art, which would mean a lot of overlap with other characters, and they wouldn't be shown in full. In those cases, a cropped gameplay screenshot generally seems to be showing the characters more completely. I assume once the game gets closer to release, we'll get more renders, and once it's out, we can take more consistent screenshot (i.e. just using the character select screen for everyone, or something). [[User:UnderFlorence|UnderFlorence]] ([[User talk:UnderFlorence|talk]]) 09:16, April 11, 2025 (EDT)

== Even more music references ==

WiiU Bowser's Castle: https://youtu.be/TIjYhWTna7U?si=garPC5TqJesW6YqQ&t=120
Starship Mario: https://youtu.be/kqE7noDQLvs?si=fz2wWLZIELks-NvU&t=116
NSMBW Battle Theme 2: https://youtu.be/V9tJ471FyM4?si=fV-3hzUGwcC3BoX1&t=705
Apparently Tour Bangkok Rush also plays in this part but I don't hear it myself: https://youtu.be/NWjkbAQOGY8?si=7lIgVHUERwbXvEqz&t=659 [[Special:Contributions/172.58.55.33|172.58.55.33]] 08:55, April 9, 2025 (EDT)

==  potentially false information ==

I already explained how the courses for banana to lightning and the last cup were poorly sourced and potentially wrong, nothing has been done, no one has thought of a reason for keeping this information, i suggest whoever is reading this to remove it immediately [[Special:Contributions/80.46.119.108|80.46.119.108]] 17:33, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
:Youtube videos are a perfectly good source. I see nothing wrong with the analysis it shows based on official demo gameplay.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 17:46, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
:: but the demos do not show entire cups, and youtube videos where someone has just put together their own list of what they believe the cups will contain, rather than actual screenshots showing the course icons for each cup, isn't really a good enough source, we only have actual evidence for the first four cups, from gameplay footage [[Special:Contributions/80.46.119.108|80.46.119.108]] 19:10, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
:::The demos show races in Grand Prix mode that start at one location and end at another. This means both of those courses are in the same cup, since that's how Grand Prix works in ''Mario Kart World''. We have demos showing a race from Peach Beach to Salty Salty Speedway, from SSS to Dino Dino Jungle, and from DDJ to Great ? Block Ruins. Therefore, all four of those tracks are in the same cup: The Banana Cup, as indicated by the trophy that also shows up at the end of these demos.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 19:54, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
:::: okay  [[Special:Contributions/80.46.119.108|80.46.119.108]] 20:29, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
::::: i still recommend removal because there isn't a continuous showing of from each one to the next though in one grand prix though [[Special:Contributions/80.46.119.108|80.46.119.108]] 12:48, April 11, 2025 (EDT)

==  tiny titan/rally romper ==
 
can the alternate name for tiny titan be put up?  i saw it here: https://youtu.be/xQtEFcw9e6o?t=94  this Mario jc guy just removed it    im new                     [[User:Whoismacaroni|Whoismacaroni]] ([[User talk:Whoismacaroni|talk]]) 09:38, April 11, 2025 (EDT)whoismacaroni

:I removed it because you didn't have a source. You have one now, so now you can add it. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 10:41, April 11, 2025 (EDT)
:I've gone ahead and added it with the source once I saw the original comment here, before I saw the response. Hope that's alright for you! [[User:UnderFlorence|UnderFlorence]] ([[User talk:UnderFlorence|talk]]) 10:45, April 11, 2025 (EDT)
  

:hi thanks!     [[User:Whoismacaroni|Whoismacaroni]] ([[User talk:Whoismacaroni|talk]]) 06:32, April 12, 2025 (EDT)whoismacaroni

== 3 new vehicles ==

I found 3 new vehicles. I don't have edit permissions so please add it instead. The name is temporary.

-source-<br>
・King Boo Tricycle：
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/games/switch2/aaaaa/index.html?srsltid=AfmBOopYxdG2U0LyH0b8MCfE49_NI-5T1Zkl4z-63neIP2rBxncC9TLU
→Free Run
気ままにドライブ、フリーラン

・Toad Train Bike：
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202504/38664
→登場キャラクター

・Fire snowmobile bike：
https://youtu.be/3pE23YTYEZM?si=ilLazoFicGkrsSwx&t=211
--[[User:Deathsatan|Deathsatan]] ([[User talk:Deathsatan|talk]]) 19:40, April 12, 2025 (EDT)
:Yeah, these all seem to be new! I'll get some images and add them shortly. [[User:UnderFlorence|UnderFlorence]] ([[User talk:UnderFlorence|talk]]) 14:16, April 13, 2025 (EDT)
:Thanks! --[[User:Deathsatan|Deathsatan]] ([[User talk:Deathsatan|talk]]) 05:50, April 14, 2025 (EDT)

== Unknown Music Reference ==

I'm 99% sure this is a ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]''/''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' reference, but I don’t know exactly where this song comes from. It plays at 6:26 in the first video and 0:07 in the second video.
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_vRkrN6sQ&t=386s
* https://x.com/MarioKartActu/status/1910699874615783539/video/1
[[User:BitChippy|BitChippy]] ([[User talk:BitChippy|talk]])

:Found it. It's "[[Bowser's Galaxy Generator]]". [[User:BitChippy|BitChippy]] ([[User talk:BitChippy|talk]])

== Vanilla Lake's theme ==
I was watching the Mushroom Cup footage from the Nintendo Treehouse and the character selection theme has part of Vanilla Lake theme in it. Could that be added as a Super Mario Kart reference? [[User:OngoingTalent13|OngoingTalent13]] ([[User talk:OngoingTalent13|talk]]) 12:44, April 14, 2025 (EDT)

== toadette ice cream ==

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https://youtu.be/kqE7noDQLvs?si=TYrSwDu5b_ANXWai&t=148

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234863654120587264/1357751189374238843/image.png?ex=67fe86d5&is=67fd3555&hm=5df50f17bbb0ff2479f7d2ddce87af9c49f4f01672b513305c25617ff53a3687&