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| == Should internal content section be separated into a new page? == | | == Should internal content section be separated into a new page? == |
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| {{Settled TPP}} | | {{SettledTPP}} |
| {{Proposal outcome|failed|1-10|Don't separate internal content}} | | {{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-10|Don't separate internal content}} |
| I've been thinking on this for a while now, because I've got an issue with it. Personally, I wanted the section of internal content (ergo, the datamine) to have a separate page. I know datamine or inner content stuffs can be alluring to some folks out there, but some others, like me, can be exposed to those things if not careful enough, and would rather learn about which incoming tracks by surprise (just like those Item Boxes!) while avoiding the leaks at the same time. I knew that from personal experience when browsing the page with my phone weeks before my Nintendo Switch gave me the news of a proper teaser about Wave 3. | | I've been thinking on this for a while now, because I've got an issue with it. Personally, I wanted the section of internal content (ergo, the datamine) to have a separate page. I know datamine or inner content stuffs can be alluring to some folks out there, but some others, like me, can be exposed to those things if not careful enough, and would rather learn about which incoming tracks by surprise (just like those Item Boxes!) while avoiding the leaks at the same time. I knew that from personal experience when browsing the page with my phone weeks before my Nintendo Switch gave me the news of a proper teaser about Wave 3. |
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| == Italics? == | | == Italics? == |
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| The Booster Course Pass was [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_8_Deluxe_%E2%80%93_Booster_Course_Pass&diff=prev&oldid=3556893 denied italics] on the wiki shortly after its reveal for the pretty flimsy reason that "since it's always referred to as "THE pass", it's treated more like a thing with a name like the Fighters Pass as opposed to purely a title", which I never thought was that convincing but everyone went along with it anyway. However, I've noticed that Nintendo doesn't seem to see it the same way, as it's consistently written as ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass'' in [https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26098/~/how-to-update-mario-kart-8-deluxe the patch notes] (it's actually been this way since Wave 1 but I never took notice until now). So should we start italicizing it on the wiki? I imagine we could have a bot change all instances of "Booster Course Pass" to have italics if that's what we decide to enforce. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:38, July 12, 2023 (EDT) | | The Booster Course Pass was [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_8_Deluxe_%E2%80%93_Booster_Course_Pass&diff=prev&oldid=3556893 denied italics] on the wiki shortly after its reveal for the pretty flimsy reason that "since it's always referred to as "THE pass", it's treated more like a thing with a name like the Fighters Pass as opposed to purely a title", which I never thought was that convincing but everyone went along with it anyway. However, I've noticed that Nintendo doesn't seem to see it the same way, as it's consistently written as ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass'' in [https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26098/~/how-to-update-mario-kart-8-deluxe the patch notes] (it's actually been this way since Wave 1 but I never took notice until now). So should we start italicizing it on the wiki? I imagine we could have a bot change all instances of "Booster Course Pass" to have italics if that's what we decide to enforce. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:38, July 12, 2023 (EDT) |
| :Agreed. [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/How-to-Access-Mario-Kart-8-Deluxe-Booster-Course-Pass-DLC-Content-2178331.html Other] [https://www.nintendo.com.au/support/articles/how-to-access-mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-pass-dlc-content customer support] [https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57858/kw/booster pages] from across Nintendo's English-language websites also italicise the title in full. Seems like "Booster Course Pass" is written in default typeface only when the same is done with the "Mario Kart 8 Deluxe" part of the title. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:08, July 12, 2023 (EDT) | | :Agreed. [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-Switch/How-to-Access-Mario-Kart-8-Deluxe-Booster-Course-Pass-DLC-Content-2178331.html Other] [https://www.nintendo.com.au/support/articles/how-to-access-mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-pass-dlc-content customer support] [https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57858/kw/booster pages] from across Nintendo's English-language websites also italicise the title in full. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:08, July 12, 2023 (EDT) |
| :Update: Then again, Play Nintendo [https://play.nintendo.com/activities/opinion-polls/mario-kart-8-deluxe-dlc-wave-5-poll/ formats the DLC's title like the wiki does] ("Mario Kart 8 Deluxe" in italics, "– Booster Course Pass" in default font), but I have no idea how much weight this source has compared to the others. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:18, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| ::It strangely doesn't italicize Mario Kart Tour or the other instance of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe in the same sentence, so I feel like it shouldn't outweigh the other official websites. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 06:25, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
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| == Italicize the ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass'' ==
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| {{Settled TPP}}
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| {{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|use italics for the full title}}
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| See above - to summarize, the Booster Course Pass, despite being the title of a work, doesn't have italics on this wiki for some reason, despite the fact that more often than not, Nintendo's official websites do use italics for it. So, I think we should change it on the wiki to match Nintendo's official stance. Since I'm not sure how contentious this is, I've made this into a proposal.
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Hewer}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': September 15, 2023, 23:59 GMT
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| ===Support===
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| #{{User|Hewer}} Per proposal and above discussion.
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| #{{User|Tails777}} Per proposal. While I'm not sure if my supporting reason would hold up (as I don't know if similar situations have happened and I'm kinda too lazy to look into it), the game's title is in the full name, which to me, kinda supports the idea of putting the whole thing in italics.
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| #{{User|Killer Moth}} Per all.
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| #{{User|MegaBowser64}} Personally I though it looked better without italics but whatevs. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
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| #{{User|Mushroom Head}} Per all. Nintendo seems to prefer using italics for the whole title, so we should do that as well.
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| #{{User|ToxicOJ}} Per all.
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| #{{User|BMfan08}} Late vote, but might as well throw my hat in the ring. Per all.
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| ===Oppose===
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| ===Comments===
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| This is not entirely true. I've seen Nintendo use both often enough, and it's not clear which way is preferred. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 01:29, September 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| ====Uses of both====
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| Compilation of uses of both, excluding times when Nintendo didn't italicize it at all.
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| =====''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' – Booster Course Pass=====
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| #[https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-pass-wave-3-brings-merry-mountain-mayhem-with-eight-additional-courses-on-dec-7/ Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass Wave 3 Brings Merry Mountain Mayhem with Eight Additional Courses on Dec. 7]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/news/booster-course-dlc-3-tips-tricks/ Wave 3 is here!]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/news/mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-pass-4-trailer/ Wave 4 is here!]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/activities/paint-by-numbers/mushroom-kingdom-birdo-paint-activity/ Thinkin’ pink with Birdo]
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| =====''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass''=====
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| #[https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57858/~/mario-kart-8-deluxe-%E2%80%93-booster-course-pass-faq?_gl=1*18wzxdo*_ga*MTYyNjMzOTgzNy4xNjc1MDgzODE1*_ga_F6ERC4HMNZ*MTY5MzYzNDczOS4yNzQuMS4xNjkzNjM1MDQ0LjAuMC4w Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass FAQ]
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| #[https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/58211/~/unable-to-access-mario-kart-8-deluxe-%E2%80%93-booster-course-pass-content?_gl=1*1r2ckrw*_ga*MTYyNjMzOTgzNy4xNjc1MDgzODE1*_ga_F6ERC4HMNZ*MTY5MzYzNDczOS4yNzQuMS4xNjkzNjM1MDc5LjAuMC4w Unable to Access Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass Content]
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| #[https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/58186/~/how-to-access-mario-kart-8-deluxe-%E2%80%93-booster-course-pass-content?_gl=1*ynjtve*_ga*MTYyNjMzOTgzNy4xNjc1MDgzODE1*_ga_F6ERC4HMNZ*MTY5MzYzNDczOS4yNzQuMS4xNjkzNjM1MTE3LjAuMC4w How to Access Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass Content]
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| #[https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26098/~/how-to-update-mario-kart-8-deluxe?_gl=1*kia0wh*_ga*MTYyNjMzOTgzNy4xNjc1MDgzODE1*_ga_F6ERC4HMNZ*MTY5MzYzNDczOS4yNzQuMS4xNjkzNjM1MTIwLjAuMC4w How to Update Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]
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| #[https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-pass-wave-2-approaches-the-starting-line-on-aug-4/ Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass Wave 2 Approaches the Starting Line on Aug. 4]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/media/videos/mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-wave-3-trailer/ Wave 3 is here!]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/media/videos/mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-wave-1-trailer/ New courses are here!]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/news/mario-kart-8-deluxe-booster-course-pass-wave-5-here/ Wave 5 is here!]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/activities/opinion-polls/multiplayer-games-poll-summer-2022/ Summer fun with Nintendo]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/news/multiplayer-games-family/ Co-op fun for family game night]
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| #[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/game-releases/new-mario-kart-booster-course-pass-dlc/ More courses, more action!]
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| [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 02:27, September 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| :I'd say it's pretty clear from this which way is preferred. What I said in the proposal still holds true: more often than not, Nintendo's official websites do use italics for it. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 05:40, September 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| ::I compiled these links after I wrote that comment. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 06:57, September 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| At first glance, those Play Nintendo articles don't seem consistent in terms of title formatting, so I kind of foresee some contention on referencing these examples. To hopefully dispel any doubts, I'll note that they show a clear pattern that hinges on whether the title is part of a hyperlink or not:
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| *[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/tips-tricks/multiplayer-tips-and-tricks-for-pikmin-4/ Pikmin 4 co-op tips]: the italicised instance of "''Pikmin 4''" is the one in the lead paragraph, which hosts a link; the rest across the article's body use the site's default typeface.
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| *[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/tips-tricks/multiplayer-mario-games-tips-tricks/ Fun family games starring Mario!]: all game titles across the article are both linked and italicised. I'm excluding the instance of "Super Mario 3D World" because in that context it refers to the in-game campaign of ''Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury'' rather than the work itself.
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| *[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/news/kirbys-dream-buffet-game-announcement/ Sweet victory with Kirby]: "''Kirby's Dream Buffet''" is only italicised in the linked instance, but not in the article itself nor in the age rating notice at the bottom.
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| *[https://play.nintendo.com/news-tips/tips-tricks/winter-break-game-guide/ Winter break game guide!]: all works mentioned here, including the Booster Course Pass, are linked and consequently italicised.
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| These are just a couple of examples, but they were picked purely at random. Also note that this just seems to apply to game titles; not all hyperlink text is italicised, as seen in the second and fourth examples, where "the official home of Super Mario" and "tips and tricks" links don't change format.<br>So I guess I should ask, for the BCP specifically, what do we choose to reference from these examples? The hyperlinks or the plain instances? {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 06:26, September 2, 2023 (EDT)<br>
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| EDIT: Although there does seem to be one plain, italicised instance of ''Just Dance 2022'' in the "Co-op fun for family game night" article provided by Axis. So far, though, hyperlinked instances still don't break any presupposed pattern. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 06:32, September 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| It would be a good idea to mention both of these cases, regardless of the outcome of this proposal. [[User:Axis|Axis]] ([[User talk:Axis|talk]]) 07:00, September 2, 2023 (EDT)
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| Not sure if it's too late for this, but I feel the scope of this proposal probably could be expanded to include the titles of the ''Mario + Rabbids'' DLCs as we haven't been italicizing those either, yet we have with things like ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions|Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser]]'' and ''[[Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury|Bowser's Fury]]''. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 21:12, September 4, 2023 (EDT)
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| :Although I agree (and for some reason thought we already did italicise ''Donkey Kong Adventure''), I feel like it should probably be its own proposal as it doesn't feel quite relevant enough to be lumped in with this proposal on the Booster Course Pass's talk page. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 11:15, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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| == Pauline? ==
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| Pauline was a heavyweight in Tour, so it seems odd that she would be a medium-weight here, and I don't see where it specifically says one way or another. It's sort of hard to tell in the video what size her kart is, but can someone cite why she's listed as a medium driver? [[Special:Contributions/73.171.36.107|73.171.36.107]] 11:16, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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| == Can someone please add to the trivia section or somewhere in the article that every cup in the Booster Course Pass starts with a Tour city track? ==
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| I would add it myself but I cannot unfortunately and with all the tracks confirmed I feel it’s okay that add that the article now. So I hope someone can please add that when they have the time [[Special:Contributions/35.137.237.68|35.137.237.68]] 5:30 November 7 2023 (EDT)
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| :it's not really noteworthy at all for trivia, players can just look at the cups and see. {{User:RealStuffMister/sig}} 07:47, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Trivia Error ==
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| The trivia section says Wii Rainbow Road still uses the same preview image as 3DS Rainbow Road on the desktop version of the North American website. This issue has since been fixed and the trivia section should be changed accordingly.
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| --[[User:Nintenboi1|Nintenboi1]] ([[User talk:Nintenboi1|talk]]) 13:15, November 24, 2023 (EST)
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| == Language Error ==
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| I saw the news in my Nintendo Switch OLED in Spanish, and in the first notice, it says "Pase de pistas extra". Could you put that in the Names in other languages section, please?
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| --[[User: SilverBros1983|SilverBros1983]] ([[User talk:SilverBros1983|talk]]) 13:15, May 26, 2024 (EST)
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| :Looks like it's already listed. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:15, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
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