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== Article for Wheels ==
== Article for Wheels ==


We would not have much to add to them and we don't do articles for stuff like that.--[[File:Yoshidarkblue.jpg|50px]][[User:New Super Yoshi|New]][[User talk:New Super Yoshi| Super]][[Special:Contributions/New_Super_Yoshi| Yoshi]][[File:Yoshired.png|50px]] 03:45, 10 December 2011 (EST)
We would not have much to add to them and we don't do articles for stuff like that.--[[File:Yoshidarkblue.png|50px]][[User:New Super Yoshi|New]][[User talk:New Super Yoshi| Super]][[Special:Contributions/New_Super_Yoshi| Yoshi]][[File:Yoshired.png|50px]] 03:45, 10 December 2011 (EST)


OK as you say... could you delete your comment then so I can remove this title please?[[User:JORDANDEBONO]]
OK as you say... could you delete your comment then so I can remove this title please?[[User:JORDANDEBONO]]


The Wiki Archives it's comments so if you want it gone please tell me on my talk page.--[[File:Yoshidarkblue.jpg|50px]][[User:New Super Yoshi|New]][[User talk:New Super Yoshi| Super]][[Special:Contributions/New_Super_Yoshi| Yoshi]][[File:Yoshired.png|50px]] 11:19, 11 December 2011 (EST)
The Wiki Archives it's comments so if you want it gone please tell me on my talk page.--[[File:Yoshidarkblue.png|50px]][[User:New Super Yoshi|New]][[User talk:New Super Yoshi| Super]][[Special:Contributions/New_Super_Yoshi| Yoshi]][[File:Yoshired.png|50px]] 11:19, 11 December 2011 (EST)


== Music Thwomp? ==
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== Usage of data? ==
== Usage of data? ==
I've been following the Stat Boosts table closely since the game was released, including the changes brought about after the Prima guide was released. I was wondering what the copyright of this data might be? As far as I can see it nothing was ripped from the game data. Some data was derived from bars displayed on the game screen and in the book, but the likelihood of the data in the table being exactly how it is represented inside the game seems remote for me. As a full disclaimer, I would like to release an app featuring this data, for iOS and Android to start with. Any thoughts? [[User:Gingerbeardman|Gingerbeardman]] 11:42, 19 January 2012 (EST)
I've been following the Stat Boosts table closely since the game was released, including the changes brought about after the Prima guide was released. I was wondering what the copyright of this data might be? As far as I can see it nothing was ripped from the game data. Some data was derived from bars displayed on the game screen and in the book, but the likelihood of the data in the table being exactly how it is represented inside the game seems remote for me. As a full disclaimer, I would like to release an app featuring this data, for iOS and Android to start with. Any thoughts? [[User:Gingerbeardman|Gingerbeardman]] 11:42, 19 January 2012 (EST)
:Read the warning at the top of the talk page. The talk pages are for discussing the acticle page '''only''', your topic doesn;t contribute to the article at all. I suggest you to register on the [[mb:|Mario Boards]] and post it there. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
:Read the warning at the top of the talk page. The talk pages are for discussing the acticle page '''only''', your topic doesn;t contribute to the article at all. I suggest you to register on the [[forum:|Mario Boards]] and post it there. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
I'm asking about the usage rights of the data in the following section of the article page: http://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_7#Stat_Boosts [[User:Gingerbeardman|Gingerbeardman]] 16:13, 21 January 2012 (EST)
I'm asking about the usage rights of the data in the following section of the article page: http://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_7#Stat_Boosts [[User:Gingerbeardman|Gingerbeardman]] 16:13, 21 January 2012 (EST)
:[[MarioWiki:General disclaimer|Read this.]] {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
:[[MarioWiki:General disclaimer|Read this.]] {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
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The construction template should be removed. After all, what is there to add?
The construction template should be removed. After all, what is there to add?


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:::EDIT: Just done the tests for sure on Wario Shipyard underwater, yet I see tires with different stability tilting the same. Again, I still don't think that the stability and drift stats exist in MK7. Tilting definitely has to do with handling, as the higher the handling, the better you tilt. [[User:Sarantis|Sarantis]] ([[User talk:Sarantis|talk]]) 09:06, 25 November 2015 (EST)
:::EDIT: Just done the tests for sure on Wario Shipyard underwater, yet I see tires with different stability tilting the same. Again, I still don't think that the stability and drift stats exist in MK7. Tilting definitely has to do with handling, as the higher the handling, the better you tilt. [[User:Sarantis|Sarantis]] ([[User talk:Sarantis|talk]]) 09:06, 25 November 2015 (EST)
::::Those stats are in the PRIMA guide, in the "Characters" and "Kart Assembly" sections, so they are official. The problem is that there is likely a translation mistake, as the effect of stability has nothing to do with actual stability, according to many reports it has to do with steering. By the way, your test is probably flawed, as there is likely more than one factor that affects how tight you turn, you should have chosen instead the same vehicle setup but two different characters such as Peach and Toad that have the same Handling but different Drift and you should have tested the angular velocity while drifting (time needed to complete a 360° turn).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:41, 25 November 2015 (EST)
::::Those stats are in the PRIMA guide, in the "Characters" and "Kart Assembly" sections, so they are official. The problem is that there is likely a translation mistake, as the effect of stability has nothing to do with actual stability, according to many reports it has to do with steering. By the way, your test is probably flawed, as there is likely more than one factor that affects how tight you turn, you should have chosen instead the same vehicle setup but two different characters such as Peach and Toad that have the same Handling but different Drift and you should have tested the angular velocity while drifting (time needed to complete a 360° turn).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:41, 25 November 2015 (EST)
:::::In the end, the in-game stats [http://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_7_drivers%27_and_parts%27_statistics have been discovered]; indeed the Stability and Drift stats exist, but their actual name is ''TireFeeling'' and ''DriftStart'', with the latter having only a single in-game stat, ''OuterSlip''. The name was effectively misleading, as in ''Mario Kart Wii'' Drift was mostly proportional to the angular velocity while drifting, while Stability seems more on point.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:58, 6 November 2016 (EST)


== Tournaments? ==
== Tournaments? ==
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I'm sure I was perfectly consistent, I did it twice with both third-person view and first-person view, the only input being A held down, from start to end (I have gyro-controls off), and I got the exact same time between runs that use the same view. I'm going to work on the video proof soon. - [[User:GoldMario777|GoldMario777]]
I'm sure I was perfectly consistent, I did it twice with both third-person view and first-person view, the only input being A held down, from start to end (I have gyro-controls off), and I got the exact same time between runs that use the same view. I'm going to work on the video proof soon. - [[User:GoldMario777|GoldMario777]]


Okay, so while making the video proof (you can watch it here[https://youtu.be/g6NkpLB0xwg]), I figured out I was wrong, water physics aren't different between view modes, but Rosalina's Ice World's ice ramp's physics does. It may be caused by a shrink of the hitbox in first-person view, but I doubt it since the runs would have desynced right at the beginning if it was the case. - [[User:GoldMario777|GoldMario777]]
Okay, so while making the video proof (you can watch it here[https://youtu.be/g6NkpLB0xwg|here]), I figured out I was wrong, water physics aren't different between view modes, but Rosalina's Ice World's ice ramp's physics does. It may be caused by a shrink of the hitbox in first-person view, but I doubt it since the runs would have desynced right at the beginning if it was the case. - [[User:GoldMario777|GoldMario777]]
:I did a quick look, and that's definitely interesting. I think you should check how much reproducible the test is doing more iterations without changing from first person view to third person view and vice versa - in Mario Kart 8 too collisions in the broadest sense, including interactions with non-flat surfaces, can have some bugs, but at the moment I didn't test that aspect much. One of those bugs is affecting GCN Yoshi Circuit, in the Piranha Plants section, and results in the vehicle sometimes not jumping despite taking a small ramp because in the matter of a single frame it becomes parallel to the surface - if you look at the video frame by frame you clearly see the bug. Since the MK8 engine appears to be based in part on the MK7 engine, I think we must first ensure that one of those collisions bugs isn't happening.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:19, 9 July 2016 (EDT)
 
== Wario's Third Rival ==
 
Wario, in fact, as a third rival. And this rival is Donkey Kong.
When a CPU Donkey Kong occasionally appears if the player is Wario, he always start in third place. {{unsigned|90.46.167.35}}
:Third rival refers to the character present when the unlockable rival isn’t unlocked. It’s not referring to a character who occasionally starts in the third place position. Since Wario doesn’t have an unlockable rival, he can’t have a rival who replaces a locked character. {{User:Tails777/sig}}08:35, 2 October 2017 (EDT)
 
No I mean the third rival always start in third place if present. For example if Mario third rival Peach occasionally appears when Metal Mario is unlocked, she will always starts in third place right? Then if Donkey Kong occassionally appears is the player is Wario he will always start in third place. Despite his main rivals are starting characters, Wario has a third rival. {{unsigned|90.46.167.35}}
:The rivals are the characters who are always present. Characters who are occasionally in the third spot are not considered rivals. Also, please remember to sign your comments. {{User:Tails777/sig}}17:57, 3 October 2017 (EDT)
 
You don't believe me?
https://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/997822-mario-kart-7/faqs/63569 {{unsigned|90.46.167.35}}
 
:I haven't truly noticed this when I personally play the game. But once again, the "third rival" term you're using and the one the article is using is already vastly different. I personally don't believe that occasional rivals are anything to really mention. If each character had a third rival that ''always'' appeared, that'd be different, but if it's occasional, it's not really worth mentioning. So in the case of Wario's third rival, it's not who starts in the third position, it's the character who takes the place of the currently locked rival for that character. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
 
== Starting Parts ==
 
Unlocking Criteria :
The only parts that are already unlocked are the Standard kart, the Standard tires, the Super Glider, and '''four random parts.'''
 
"four random parts" should be remplaced by "the Birthday Girl, the Bolt Buggy, the Monster tires and the Roller tires."
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:That may be what you got. Have you restarted multiple times and they all got the same result? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:20, 1 June 2018 (EDT)
 
Yes, I restarted three times and I swear I got those aforementioned parts at start over and over again so I say it's not four random parts.
 
== Mario Kart Tour ==
 
Can we mention Mario Kart Tour in this article?  Mario Kart Tour is heavily based on this game, and I think it should be at least included in the "References in later games" section. --[[User:Jacklavin|Jacklavin]] ([[User talk:Jacklavin|talk]]) 11:34, May 23, 2020 (EDT)
:MKT is now there! :)--[[User:ShyGuy123|ShyGuy123]] ([[User talk:ShyGuy123|talk]]) 15:45, February 2, 2021 (EST)
 
== I found some trivia ==
 
The game has the Netherlands Antilles for online play, even though this country has been dissolved over a year before the game's release. --[[User:LucianoTheWindowsFan|LucianoTheWindowsFan]] ([[User talk:LucianoTheWindowsFan|talk]]) 11:56, February 21, 2021 (EST)
 
== Typo in one of the staff ghost names ==
 
The expert staff ghost for DS Waluigi Pinball is named Nin★Nshhr, and not Nin★Nahhr like it currently says in the article (it's with an 's' instead of an 'a'). Could anyone fix this?
--[[User:B squo|B squo]] ([[User talk:B squo|talk]]) 15:14, July 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
:Fixed, thanks for spotting that. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:41, July 4, 2021 (EDT)

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