Editing Talk:Mario Kart (Nintendo Switch 2)

== Move to "Untitled Mario Kart game"? ==

The game doesn't have a confirmed title, and the current one used for this article sounds as if it's an official name since it uses a similar title format as [[Luigi's Mansion (Nintendo 3DS)]] and [[Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)]]. [[Princess Peach: Showtime!]], for example, went by "Untitled Princess Peach game" before its reveal, so why should this game be an exception? "Untitled Mario Kart game" summarises the article's topic much more accurately in my opinion. {{User:RetroNintendo2008/sig}} 10:42, January 16, 2025 (EST)

:I forgot that's the name we gave to ''Showtime!'' I was going for what we used to name untitled games years ago on the wiki like [[Paper Mario (Nintendo 3DS)]] for ''Sticker Star''. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 11:26, January 16, 2025 (EST)
::I've moved it back, because Mario Kart (Nintendo Switch 2) is a far more descriptive title that people are more likely to search for (especially since in order to find this game on this wiki you have to type "Untitled" on the search bar). We've really used untitled for the Peach game just because it's an entirely new series/game so we can't 100% be sure for the title of that game, but this game off the bat is part of a series and we know "Mario Kart" will be part of it. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 13:40, January 16, 2025 (EST)

== I saw Bowser Jr. on the trailer ==

During the last section of the reveal, Bowser Jr. seems to be behind Baby Rosalina. I also think that Shy Guy is not seen playable, but due to an NPC Shy Guy appearing very close to King Boo on the distance, it gives the illusion that Shy Guy is there.
--[[User:Tiixi|Tiixi]] ([[User talk:Tiixi|talk]]) 13:09, January 16, 2025 (EST)

==Donkey Kong design==

Currently, the page says that Donkey Kong's design in this game is based on how he looks in the ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]'', which is misleading since the design here is clearly just based on how [[Shigehisa Nakaue]] has [[:File:Nintendo recruitment book Daisy DK Wart.jpg|always drawn DK]], including in [[:File:TSMBM DK Diddy Kart Concept Art.jpeg|concept art for the movie itself]] which is why he had that design in the movie in the first place. [[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 13:15, January 16, 2025 (EST)
:That does make sense. Nakaue's artstyle is also the basis for the in-game artstyle for ''Super Mario Bros. Wonder'', which people immediately caught, but that game didn't have DK in it, so this might be the first time Nakaue's Donkey Kong is translated into 3D; no way people would recognize that right away. {{User:Arend/sig}} 14:37, January 16, 2025 (EST)
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 Currently, the page says that Donkey Kong's design in this game is based on how he looks in the ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]'', which is misleading since the design here is clearly just based on how [[Shigehisa Nakaue]] has [[:File:Nintendo recruitment book Daisy DK Wart.jpg|always drawn DK]], including in [[:File:TSMBM DK Diddy Kart Concept Art.jpeg|concept art for the movie itself]] which is why he had that design in the movie in the first place. [[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 13:15, January 16, 2025 (EST)
 :That does make sense. Nakaue's artstyle is also the basis for the in-game artstyle for ''Super Mario Bros. Wonder'', which people immediately caught, but that game didn't have DK in it, so this might be the first time Nakaue's Donkey Kong is translated into 3D; no way people would recognize that right away. {{User:Arend/sig}} 14:37, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-::There might be cause for people adding it, Way back in the [https://youtube.com/watch?v=ohJrpHUoZ10 second direct for the film], this design was hyped up as a "new design". And I quote, "We've also changed his design for the first time since he became a 3D model in the original ''Donkey Kong Country'' game" (4:52). So we'd also have to call a direct statement from Nintendo balderdash, when we do take Nintendo at their word for which games are in the Super Mario series. There may be cause to do exactly this, but I'm a non-artist so I can't pass judgement. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 17:19, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-: I was gonna say that maybe not because of how people thought several moments in Brothership were references to [[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]] that were not but if Nintendo says it's a new design, then we shouldn't be saying it's not because we don't think it's not. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 21:12, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-: It might have the same inspirations, but it being 3D automatically makes it a different design from the one used in 2D art. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|DesaMatt]] ([[User talk:DesaMatt|talk]]) 00:52, January 17, 2025 (EST)
-::All we have seen of the design so far is some blurry footage. Putting it as DEFINITELY being based off the movie design is jumping the gun, especially since it clearly has some differences from the movie's design as well (eye width, etc.) [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 03:02, January 17, 2025 (EST)
-::: I dunno. From what I can tell online, a lot of people are already saying it's inspired by the movie design. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 09:03, January 17, 2025 (EST)
-:::: A lot of people can still be wrong. I think both the movie and the new Mario Kart's DK design are both taking design cues from the original Donkey Kong (Cranky)'s design, you can see it well [[:File:DKGB Donkey Kong with barrel.jpg|in this original art]], and how close that looks to [https://www.amazon.com/Donkey-Kong-2026-Wall-Calendar/dp/1419783475 this new 2026 calendar]. <small>(a bit early for one of those, isn't it?)</small> So it's more of a case of them redesigning DK to resemble the old design, and then this new iteration first appeared in the movie before making its way to games and 2D artwork. So while I agree that it does resemble DK's design in the movie, I would not say it was "inspired by" or "based on" it. {{User:LadySophie17/sig}} 09:14, January 17, 2025 (EST)
-==King Bob-Omb==
-At one point, you can see what might be King Bob-Omb. As suggested in this Twitter post (https://x.com/RHVGamer/status/1879960122891583914/photo/1), it might suggest he will be returning. [[User:edlde62|edlde62]] ([[User:edlde62|edlde62]]) 14:57, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-:[https://x.com/MarcLeTwit/status/1879978716601938112?t=WsxajF9ed_Yp9biXcP9Whg&s=19 Pretty sure that's Lakitu instead]. And I honestly don't see King Bob-omb in it anyway: couldn't find the mustache like the tweet you linked described, nor any dark blue of his spherical body. Instead, I recognized Lakitu's glasses and his round yellow head. {{User:Arend/sig}} 15:02, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-That's Bowser Jr. On a big spherical car.
---[[User:Tiixi|Tiixi]] ([[User talk:Tiixi|talk]]) 15:41, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-=="It is the first completely new Mario Kart title for a Nintendo game system since Mario Kart 8 in 2014."==
-Shouldn't [[Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit]] count? Live is a "completely new" Mario Kart, and although it's not exactly mainline, we don't know if this is either (although it 99.99% is... but it hasn't been confirmed yet). [[User:BlueYoshi-57EML|BlueYoshi-57EML]] ([[User talk:BlueYoshi-57EML|talk]]) 15:12, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-If you ask me, Home Circuit feels more like an RC car than an actual game [[User:Harvstar|Harvstar]] ([[User talk:Harvstar|talk]]) 16:49, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-== About Peach on the bike not having her bike outfit ==
-In the trailer, Peach is driving on a bike using her kart outfit and not the bike outfit seen since Mario Kart Wii, and this page does talk about that: "''Additionally, characters who previously were automatically given different outfits on bikes no longer do so''".
-However, I wouldn't put such a bold claim like this in this page, and basically confirming it's not returning. Yes it is in the trailer, but not only is it a weird thing to remove considering every Mario Kart game that has included bikes brings back the bike outfits, but Peach's dress also clips weirdly on the bike in the trailer and this all just looks like beta footage and not actually something they removed, rather they haven't added full support yet. Or maybe it's a customization thing though it's unlikely since again, it so obviously clips into the bike that I doubt Nintendo would let this slide. {{User:Rodmjorgeh/sig}} 17:52, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-:There is the chance of there being alternate costumes in the game. [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]
-:If it's a customization thing, please note the use of the word "''automatically''" in that statement. There's a reason it's there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:17, January 16, 2025 (EST)
-== Red Shell tires ==
-In the trailer, Mario's tires are labeled with the brand name "RED SHELL" (presumably the manufacturer). How should the page characterize this? They aren't exactly a sponsor, since they don't have any advertisements posted on the race course. (It's also unclear whether this is the Red Shell Strike Equipment sponsor from previous games, since they seem to make red shell items, not car parts.) [[User:Nopad|Nopad]] ([[User talk:Nopad|talk]]) 14:51, January 17, 2025 (EST)
-== Daisy Air Freshener Orange ==
-In the area by the diner, there's an add for a new Daisy Air Freshener Orange, but on the article it seems to have been mislabeled as Princess Orange. The designs are similar, so Daisy Air Freshener Orange might be a new product under the same company as Princess Orange, but they are two different products! [[User:Sarasalandian|<span style="color:#f60;font-family:serif">Sarasalandian</span>]] 13:14, January 20, 2025 (PST)