Editing Talk:Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Wii)

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==Systems?==
Has this been confirmed for any system? I think it's pretty sure it will be on both the DS and the Wii. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:11, 11 February 2009 (EST)

: Details are still under lock and key; but I'm assuming they'll target BOTH the DS and Wii. Best to wait for a press release from Nintendo or Sega. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 16:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)

wii.ign confirm it, so at the very least a Wii version will be made. No word on a DS version at the moment. -- {{User|Booster}}
:Just because IGN put it up on the Wii part of their site, that doesn't mean it's officially confirmed on the Wii. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:13, 11 February 2009 (EST)
::Is this enough proof that it exist? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyek6YbLvWw - Kamicciolo
:::I just saw the "news flash" via press release -- it <b>is</b> targeted for both the Wii and DS. As well as the official title for it. I'll do necessary adjustments here. {{unsigned|MeritC}}
:Actually the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games official website confermed wii and Ds. Also Donkey Kong and Metal Sonic are confirmed characters, the only events confirmed are ice hockey, bobsled, speed skating, and i think figure skating is in there. {{User|Avsrok22}}

We already know. This System discussion is old and was here before the DS verison was confirmed. -[[User:RedFire Mario|RedFire Mario]]

==Tails, Daisy, and Knuckles==
Their names appear in the scoreboard, right before the event starts. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 18:07, 12 February 2009 (EST)
:But they don't actually appear in the trailer or teaser, so we just put  <nowiki>{{</nowiki>refneeded}} for them. {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}
::We still could note that they appeared on the scoreboard though. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:34, 13 February 2009 (EST)

==More playble characters?==
From the official site: ''Choose from your favorite cast of characters, including a few new faces.''. Shall this meen there are more playble characters in this game than [[Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games]]? {{User:Arend/Sig}}
:It's also possible that they remove characters from the previous games. Not likely, but possible. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:28, 13 February 2009 (EST)

==Wow==
It never quite ends does it? {{User:Phoenix Rider/sig}} 00:08, 16 February 2009 (EST)
:What? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:48, 16 February 2009 (EST)

==Playables characters==
The French Nintendo magazine confirmed tha the seven Sonic characters and the seven Mario characters will be playable. Ther's also a rumor that the 3 mascots of the olympic games of Vancouver may also be playable. However, my magazine failed in the water and so I can't scan it. Should we add this info or not ?
[[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 05:24, 28 February 2009 (EST)
:The only mascot I can think of is a whale for Vancouver, we don't really have that many sports, mainly just hockey. But, is your magazine really damp? Did the ink get erased off it? You can try and upload it if you want.  {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}
::The mascots are [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:V2010m.jpg these]; from left to right: Sumi, part Orca ("Killer Whale"), part Thunderbird, part Black bear; Quatchi, a sasquatch ("Big Foot"); and Miga, part bear, part Orca. They're all from First Nations mythology, with the sasquatch being the only mainstream entity. If Wikipedia is to be believed, there's also a Vancouver Island Marmot named Mukmuk involved, since Sumi is the Paralympic mascot...  - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:57, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

Is Birdo a playable character? {{User:Birdoshi/sig}} ^___^

i went to Sydney supernova 2009 and i saw the game there, Bowser Jr and Silver the hedgehog are confermed playable, i don't have any images with me to prove it since i don't have a camera, but they ARE confermed playable --[[User:Angusnitro41|AngusNitro41]] 7:42pm June 27th 2009

==Vector Confirmed==
You can see him in this image http://www.blueblur.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/msowgscreen6.png - [[User:Kamicciolo|Kamicciolo]]

:AWESOME!  I love Vector, he's my favorite, next to [[Dr. Eggman]]! - [[User:Smashgoom202|Smashgoom202]] 23:38, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
::Enthusiasm's good, but try and save that sorta comment for the [http://forum.mariowiki.com/ forums], please. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:49, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

==Amy Confirmed?==
On the same place we found [[Big the Cat]] it said that all characters from the first game will appear which means [[Amy]] too! Is she confirmed? {{User|RedBoo64}}
: Please read what it says carefully, this article says Big may be in it, not will be in it. - {{User|Pikatwo}}
:[[Amy]] was in the trailer so I'm pretty sure shes gonna be in the game. {{User|Avsrok22}}

Again Avsrok, this is an old discussion. We added every info that were confirmed so far. -[[User:RedFire Mario|RedFire Mario]]

==Winter Outfits!==
I've found this video, click here!: 
http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=64PkjhzlLK8&feature=related  {{User:Birdoshi/sig}} :D

: I really think we still should wait until the Peach/Daisy arts surface in relation to this game; then we can see about placing descriptions of it on their respective articles. That's what I think. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 09:54, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Hmmm.. I agree {{User:Birdoshi/sig}}

:Agree with MeritC, we can't make conjectures with a sole image, so better wait until further information comes out from developers. {{User:Coincollector/sig}}


==Released==
It has already been released in Canada, my cousin has it {{User:Tucayo/sig|...}}
:More proof, please. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:35, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
:In Summer ? <_<" [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 00:54, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

==Anyone here a member of SonicStadium?==
Someone in the message board uploaded some new scans from Nintendo Power and it's got some new info. However, even though I'm not familar with references on this wiki (I'll into it after this), I take that forums aren't generally well-accepted as reliable sources. You have to be a member of the site to view to those who wonder why I'm asking. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 21:19, 13 May 2009 (EDT)


==Donkey Kong and Metal Sonic==
The recent trailer on the Nintendo Channel comfirmed their appearence in this game. Can someone create a link to the Youtube veresion of it? [[User:DK Fan|The DK Fan]]
:Do you mean [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgafNBo3bDI the E3 trailer]? <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
::Yes I do! [[User: DK Fan|The DK Fan]]

==Big==
is it true that big the cat is a playable character in this game? 

I've heard (seen) lots of things saying his in
   
[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])
:We'll have to wait and see whether there's an official confirmation or not. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:52, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

On IGN, they said the only new characters are Metal Sonic and Donkey Kong, so Big might not be playable -[[User:RedFire Mario|RedFire Mario]]

OooH! Are you serious?! 'o' {{User:Birdoshi/sig}}

IGN never said that it was the final roster. They only said what we know about the characters. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 10:15, 10 June 2009 (EDT)

Look & read on this link [http://sonicstadium.org/news/new-ms-winter-olympics-scans-from-aprils-nintendo-power]<br>

[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

==Silver the Hedgehog?==
On this picture [http://www.planete-sonic.com/IMG/jpg/a676_M_SWG_Wii_090609_17.jpg], look to the right of Eggman's flag, you can see a flag of what appears to be Silver. In no way am I confirming he is in. Just wanted to point this out. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 23:34, 10 June 2009 (EDT)

:Good watch. Albeit blurry, this could confirm there will be unlockable characters in this sequel as opposed in the first game, besides the adventure mode. {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

I must say good looking now all we need is [[King Boo]] in this game as a  playable character<br>

[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

in the picture with bowser jr.'s flag a flag like the one beside eggmans in the other picture appears right beside luigis head.[[User:Yoshime|Yoshime]]yoshime.

i think those flags are metal sonics anyway.[[User:Yoshime|Yoshime]]yoshime

==Chain Chomp==
look a [[Chain Chomp]] has appeared in the game<br>
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[[Image:Dream Skiing.JPG|500px]]<br>
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[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

i think thats an obstacle[[User:Yoshime|Yoshime]] 05:30, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

==Birdo==
Besides artwork, what other media of this game shows Birdo? We need a gameplay picture or video of her first. [[User:DK Fan|The DK Fan]]

More importantly, we need the source of the artwork. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 11:48, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

i seen this artwork on this link [http://www.tssznews.com/2009/06/19/rumor-birdo-coming-to-ms-winter-olympics/]

[[image:MSaWGBirdo.png]]

[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

Marc, there's no source where that picture was from. If Sega or Nintendo confirms the pic, then it's real. If no one claim where the source is from, this pic is fake. We just have to wait -[[User:RedFire Mario|RedFire Mario]]
:The picture appears on that site just because blablabla uploaded it here first. There isn't any confirmation if this picture is valid. One user (Blue Blood) at the metionend site pointed out that the artwork might be a [http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/AlexBCA/birdofake.png fake]. Therefore, the "rumor" should also be removed from the article. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:44, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Huh! 'o'  that artwork is fake! ,I can't believe it! ;_; {{User:Birdoshi/sig}}

Oh, I think I'm gonna cry ;_; T_T  ;____;  {{User:Birdoshi/sig}} ;________;  X,X

The image has been deleted to prevent any more confusion. If it turns out Birdo ''is'' in the game, we can find another image, but until then, it stays off our database. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:22, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

ok then [[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])
:Well then look below for news about her. [[User:DK Fan]]

==Luma==
Where is the source Luma appears in the game? That "hint" doesn't help at all... {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

At the Offical Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games Website. H {{unsigned|KingBubbaWii24}}

Where exactly? [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 13:13, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:Per Luigi Fan. Your comment is not clear yet, where exactly? {{User:Coincollector/sig}} Give us a picture of the Luma in the game if possible...

Luma is not a playable, It will be in the Crowd like the rest.

Here's the Directions how to find Luma in the Website.
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But you gotta press the button on characters fast to see it. it's holding a tiny mario flag. {{unsigned|KingBubbaWii24}}

:Better show me an image, cuz I cannot understand your hints. However, It's hard to me to admit that you saw is a Luma. Why Luma didn't appear in the intro movie at least...? {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

hello. i saw the image, and i tried to upload it but it wont. so blargh.. but i dont think that it actually is a luma, its eyes are so much bigger then they should be. i think its just a koopa and the mouth line isnt to clear. --[[User:Scorvi1|Scorvi1]] 03:59, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

You're wrong    that's a Luma   look at this

 http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/74/Lumagames.png  {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

I still can't see it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:26, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

It looks more like Tails and Mario standing next to each other than it does a Luma. :\ {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 16:05, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

==Eggman in ice hockey==
I was waching the trailer on youtube and in the ice hockey event when waluigi gose after knuckles I saw Dr. Eggman standing behind waluigi here is the proof (I print screened it) oh and the trailer is on my user page if you want to see it.<br>
[[Image:Eggman in ice hockey.JPG|500px]]<br>

[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])


And the point of this post...? Just in case, all the characters from the previous games are already in. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 15:12, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

==October 9th==
Just so everybody knows, October 9th is the official release date. It says so in the August 2009 issue of Nintendo Power.--[[User:Fawfulfury65|fawfulfury65]] 23:03, 9 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

NEVER MIND! It said 10/09 which means it's still October 2009.--[[User:Fawfulfury65|fawfulfury65]] 12:56, 10 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

==Bowser Jr.==
look at where I've marked on the image there is a flag with [[Bowser Jr.]]'s face on it so he may be playable the flag is by where [[yoshi]] is here is the link to this video[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ytI-lzXZ1s&NR=1]<br>

[[Image:Bowser Jr.'s flag.JPG|500px]]<br>

[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

:Also, the video was taken down by Sega Europe. Very suspicious indeed. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 18:17, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

==Cream confirmed?==
Hello,I'm French and,I discovered this image: 

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/M/Mario%20and%20Sonic%20at%20the%20Olympic%20Winter%20Games/Bulk%20Viewer/Wii/2009-06-15/Mario_000383--screenshot_viewer_medium.jpg

Who is the personn who broke a record? {{unsigned|Luigi-1}}

Uh... I think that's Tails, not Cream.--[[User:Fawfulfury65|fawfulfury65]] 09:35, 4 August 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Err I don't see it? Can someone point this out to me?{{User:Yoshiaga/sig}} 06:43, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

It's Tails, Cream is more Tanish Color, less hairy, and a Rabbit.  That is clearing a yellow fox. {{unsigned|Rouge2}}

75% that's Tails.

{{User:Mario64fanatic/sig}}

==Two new sports!==
There are new artworks of Team Sonic, and looking on them, they confirm two new sports.

[http://www.mariowiki.com/Image:Blaze_Winter_Olympics2.jpg Blaze Artwork] = [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biathlon Biathlon] and
[http://www.mariowiki.com/Image:Eggman_Winter_Olympics.jpg Eggman Artwork] = [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curling Curling]

I think Biathlon will be really fun! Don't know about curling, it's boring in the real life, so.. yeah.

I wonder which verision the sports are in... [Charmander]


==Bowser Jr. & Silver the Hedgehog==
In case you are not informed, Bowser Jr. and Silver the Hedgehog ''are'' confirmed to be in the game. There are screenshots of them in the official website. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 17:32, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
EDIT: This just in, Sega has taken down the screenshots that involves Silver and Bowser Jr. I will post the pics in the gallery before it's too late.

hes not lying its true {{unsigned|Yoshime}}





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Yes! They are in. I read it in the Mario News section! Artwork has been posted,too! [[User:Mariofan459]]


==Rosalina==
Hey guys, there's possibly another flag leak. Here's the link [http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dyxfs1.png]. However there are the things I will point out:
#This is the very same source where pics of Silver & Bowser Jr. were shown
#The original link to TSSZNEWS that had the pics was taken down. This link I posted is from the upload content. 
Thoughts? [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 00:53, 13 August 2009 (EDT)
: Okay, the original article before it was taken down stated that the image have been photoshopped. So, it's most likely this image is fake. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 01:12, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

I see fake. First, The emblem should be a star (almost seen in Mario Kart Wii) but this is a faceless Luma. Second, part of the flag (the left side) shows a sharp border unlike Tails' flag, unsharp. Third, there is no hints that Rosie might appear. That silly matter about Luma in the crowd was a complete liar... {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

Just wondering where it says she has been confirmed?? i dont think she should be in there until we actually have proof. {{unsigned|Scorvi1}}

:Fake, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake... This is the real, ORIGINAL, image behind that flag [http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/marioandsonicattheolympicwintergames/images/0/71/]{{User:Coincollector/sig}}

I am afraid there is no Rosalina but how does that explain the picture?
I'm going to check at ask.com right NOW
Yes Yes she will it will happen YES!!! {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}

:What are you talking about!? That picture you're watching is fake, please. Also the source you might back up your idea would not result very reliable, so stop stating that Rosalina will appear. {{User:Coincollector/sig}} 

Rosalina will appear I just saw it

Where is the REAL ORIGINAL IMAGE in that picture {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}

:The Link Number 6. As you can see, that is the real screenshot of the game, showing a MARIO flag, not ROSALINA. {{User:Coincollector/sig}} Also don't remove my signature, thanks...

Is that image still there at TSSZ if it is she is in if not forget it {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}

TSSZ claims that they found the screenshot at Photobucket If it is there then she's in
Sadly the computer did not allow to access the website so I still am waiting if someone can find it even if she is not in the game I would be very thankful

==Tons of new info==
Hey guys! Just want to bring news coming from Official Nintendo Magazine! First, the trailer that was taken down is now back up! Also, there's a lot of new screens that shows new info like a marketplace that allows you to customize your Mii appearance. [http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=10838] [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 13:45, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

-Don't forget the two new artworks that would fit lovely in the gallery section (of Silver and Bowser Jr). It also seems that the Mario artworks may be seen soon (Daisy and Bowser have them at GamesCon). <3

http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Mario__Sonic_at_the_Olympic_Winter_Games_-_GC_09-Wii__DSArtwork3848bowserjr_20090507-200x200.jpg
http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Silver_flattened-200x200.jpg

[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 20:07, 19 August 2009 (GMT)


-Related to the above, can anyone extract the new artworks off the official site (of Bowser and Daisy)? <3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 11:00, 21 August 2009 (GMT)

Ya, they were confirmed a long time ago. {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}

==More Characters to Come?==
On the official website, more icons for Bowser Jr. Silver, Daisy, Shadow etc. with all the character information has appeared, but at the bottom it still says, "More Coming Soon!" Does that mean we should still assume that one or two characters might make an appearance as secret characters?? --[[User:Scorvi1|Scorvi1]] 09:38, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

Well, Wario/Waluigi and Vector/Eggman aren't on the character information... So, I guess they are the last ones. Maybe two more, but that's it. [[User:Charmander]]

I'd say four more because if there is only two more, the number of Mario/Sonic characters in any two categories would be unbalanced. Here's what I mean: 
*Mario characters: Donkey Kong (Power), Bowser Jr. (All-Around), ???? (Speed), ???? (Skill)
*Sonic characters: Metal Sonic  (Speed), Silver the Hedgehog (skill), ???? (Power), ???? (All-around). [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 11:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

No, now when you say that, I think will be no more new characters.

*Donkey Kong: (Power)
*Bowser Jr.: (All Around)
*Metal Sonic: (Speed)
*Silver The Hedgehog (Skill)
They're all in different categories. And the only ones. [[User:Charmander|Charmander]]

That would be unbalanced. The series would outnumber each other in each category. There would be 5 Power Mario characters (4 Power Sonic characters); 5 Speed Sonic characters (4 Speed Mario characters); 5 Sonic skill characters (4 skill Mario characters); and 5 All-around Mario characters (4 Sonic All-around characters). So yes, that would be unbalanced. I see what you're saying, but each category would still be outnumbered [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 11:40, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

I agree more with Luigifan95. Team Mario and Sonic need to be equal in all stats. The official website still say more coming soon so we'll just have to keep waiting...
[[User:fawfulfury65|fawfulfury65]] [[Image:Dark_Fawful_sprite.PNG]]
:No. The coming characters are Wario, Waluigi Eggman and Vector. And it IS balanced. If they add 2 or 4 more characters, there would be not enough room on the Character Select screen. Plus there won't be any more room on the website, anyway. So no. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 23:09, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

::You're referring to website? I was talking about the number of characters within the game. And no, it's still not balanced as I've already said about each category being outnumbered. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 03:10, 21 August 2009 (EDT)
:::What's wrong with the number of characters within the game ? There are 20 characters, so what ? [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 11:58, 21 August 2009 (EDT)
-In all fairness, being balanced doesn't require that the seperate teams have the same amount of each type. It just means that there are the same of each type altogether (5, as it seems to be) and that the team numbers are balanced (10 to a team, in this case). Besides, SEGA aren't for balance as acute as that (Sonic Rivals/the sequel have uneven amounts of Speed, Flight and Power, as one of my friends told me). <3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 11:05, 21 August 2009 (GMT)

They could have that down arrow {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}
:I doubt about it. If I read at Wii experience at Shopping, I also see a "Secret Shop" in the list. It's possible that, in the Wii version, some characters must be unlocked by buying them... Like in Mario Party 7. But it's possible as well that sports or music must be bought. {{User:Arend/Sig|It's also fishy that Bowser, Donkey Kong and Bowser Jr. are in the game, but Diddy Kong not.}}

Then Maybe...
Diddy Kong (All-Around)
Rosalina (Skill)
Petey Piranha (Power)
Marine (Speed)
They could just be waiting until the last moment {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}
:you got 3 Mario characters, and most are all stumped by other Mario characters. Maybe they'll do Diddy and Jet, or Rosalina and Tikal, or Mona and Marina, or Birdo and Rouge, or Petey and Big, or etc. and etc. {{User:Arend/Sig}}



Or maybe...

Rouge (All-Around)
Diddy Kong (Speed)
Omega (Power)
Tiny Kong (Skill)

That would be even and a good roster.
{{User|Purple Koopa Bro.}}

Isn't this the kind of discussion users should be having on the forums? [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]]

==Hinted Characters?==
why is there a hinted character section ?? is there a link to the info ?? --[[User:Scorvi1|Scorvi1]] 04:42, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
:I got rid of it. {{User:Timmy Tim/sig}}

==Petey!==
Is it true Petey is in this!?! {{User:GalacticPetey/sig}}

Where did you get this info? I don't think Petey and Diddy Kong will be playable, but if they are, there needs the link to it. [[User:Fawfulfury65|Fawfulfury65]]

==Character Stats==
Apparently, these are the stats.

Speed/Acceleration/Power/Skill

Mario - 8/7/6/7
Luigi - 8/6/6/8
Yoshi - 9/9/5/5
Peach - 8/6/5/9
Daisy - 9/8/5/6
Bowser - 9/5/10/4
DK - 9/6/10/3
Bowser Jr. - 6/6/8/8
Sonic - 10/9/5/4
Tails - 5/8/6/9
Knuckles - 8/6/9/5
Amy - 7/6/7/8
Metal Sonic - 9/9/6/4
Shadow - 9/10/4/5
Silver - 7/7/5/9
Blaze - 6/8/7/7
{{User:Master Lucario/sig}}

==Team Mario Pictures==
This article needs more pictures in that section like the Team Sonic section--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 16:09, 21 September 2009 (EDT).

: Unfortunatley, that's all we've got. Sega hasn't released any new Mario character artwork as of late. There are official artwork pics of Bowser and Daisy on the official site if that helps. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 17:02, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

Well,I hope they relase more pictures... {{unsigned|MATEOELBACAN}}

go to the website. someone needs to rip bowser and daisy from there. [[User:Luigi456|Luigi456]] 19:00, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

I could do it,but I don't know how..--[[User:MATEOELBACAN|MATEOELBACAN]] 18:27, 25 September 2009 (EDT)

On The DS Dream Events Trailer i saw pictures of Knuckles and DK on snowboards beside the DS Screen. Does that help? {{User|Crackin355}}

The thing is, we'd rather have hi-res version of said arts instead (for both Team Mario and Team Sonic) for this game. Hopefully, Sega will release them during the course of this week. I'm seriously dying to grab hold of the Daisy artwork. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 01:45, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

: Ok, thanks for the information, ill keep a look out for the artwork :) {{User|Crackin355}}

==new some new information==
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2235/1000118.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7724/1000119b.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5164/1000120z.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5053/1000122f.jpg
Boo, Dry Bowser, Rouge and Jet all appear in the Wii Festival Mode.
-Other characters appear via special costumes that are available for Miis to wear. Some are of existing characters, like Sonic and Mario, but more no shows include Dry Bones, Charmy and...Fire Mario and Super Sonic?! Oh, and Big the Cat.
-The Dream Events are confirmed to have music from past Mario and Sonic games. Some can also be brought from a shop to be purchased from. (This is also where you get the costumes)
-You can also purchase to put stickers on a character's board, for example, World 1-1 of Mario and also stickers of characters like Cream the Rabbit.
-Dream Ski Jumping takes place in Good Egg Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy. {{unsigned|Lindsayoris15}}

So.. are Boo, Dry Bowser, Rouge and Jet going to be playable characters? But why take Dry Bowser? D:

But if Dry Bowser is in the game, he's probaly Power, but so is Donkey Kong. No power character for Sonic?
Dry Bowser (Power)
Jet (All-Around)
Boo (Speed?)
Rouge (Skill) {{User|Charmander}}

i dont think they will be playable characters, they might make an appearence as like spectators or some special event.. but it says "Mario and Sonic and the other 18 playable characters... who are... 
Luigi Yoshi Peach Daisy Wario Waluigi Bowser Donkey Kong Bowser Jr.
Shadow Tails Amy Blaze Knuckles Vector Dr. Eggman Metal Sonic Silver the Hedgehog
so i dont think theyll be main playables or playables at all... --[[User:Scorvi1|Scorvi1]] 08:35, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

no they are going to be bosses the other new 4 playable characters will be Big (power), E-123 Omega (power), King Boo (skill) & Birdo (speed) 
[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])
:Does that have any reliability or is it just a wild guess by you? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:43, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

You gotta be kidding me Marc! Are you referring to Birdo as a playable character?  we need the source  {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Look, we need some Mario Characters of Speed and Skill and Sonic characters of All-Around & Power. If Birdo was in, she would be All-Around, meaning there must be not 4 or 8 new playables, but 16, making the roster double as much as in Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games. I was thinking that '''Diddy Kong''' will be playable as Speed, and '''Big the Cat''' is for Power, but as Skill, I was doubting between '''Mona''' and '''Rosalina'''. If Mona was in, the All-Around Sonic character would be '''Marina the Racoon''', but if Rosalina goes instead, '''Tikal''' is going to be the all-around character. If both Mona and Rosalina aren't in, and, for example, '''Boo''' is the character, the All-Around Character could be '''Jet the Hawk'''. In other word, we don´t know yet. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

Since it's so close to release date i doubt they're going to put in more characters than what they have now, but if they do, we wont know until it comes out  {{User:Crackin355/sig}}

==Good Egg Galaxy & Bowser's Castle==
Ok. Let me start out with saying this: "Where were Bowser's Castle and Good Egg Galaxy confirmed?" I have googled Bowser's Castle and Good Egg Galaxy on Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games and found pretty much nothing! I know some say that they've seen this in some Nintendo magazine but how do we really know it's true? How do we know that this wasn't made up on the internet (or is it really in an offical nintendo/sega magazine that you can buy?) How do we actully know that both courses will be in the game? Also whenever I check the page, Good Egg Galaxy is there sometimes, and not there other times under the Mario Stages part. We need to make a choice. Where is proof (like a piture that's not fake) that these will be in? Some people check game pages on Mario Wiki to get updates on the game and we don't want false info, that would just confuse everybody! Please give proof so we can fix this. If I'm just somehow missing the proof that Sega gave please tell me!
[[User: Cberiault]]

Well, I read an issue of Nintendo Power and in a review it said that there is a Super Mario Galaxy themed course. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}

Thank you Fawful fury65. But could you tell us (if you still have it of course) what issue date it is (example: September 2009) or if you could somehow take a piture of where it says that. We need a bit more than "I read an issue of Nintendo Power and in a review it said that there is a Super Mario Galaxy course" but thanks anyway. Maybe I'll try searching for that Nintendo Power you were talking about.
[[User: Cberiault]]

It's the new issue for November 2009. But no, I can't take a picture and show anyone because I don't know how to put it onto the computer. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}

Thanks, but what about Bowser's Castle? [[User: Cberiault]]

Bowser's Castle is feature as a dream hockey event i found in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E68lBy_J_TI [[User: Lindsayoris15]]

Yeah that looks a lot like it! Thank you! {{unsigned|Cberiault}}

==Nintendo Powers Review==
Nintendo Power gave the Wii Version of the game a 7.0.

Controls being a issue, but not a big issue (except for the Wii Balance Board, which they say avoid at all cost when going for gold)

Also the Mii Customizing was said to be useless to them, due to Mario's Overalls. {{unsigned|Rouge2}}


Are you serious? A 7.0 isn't a terrible score...but it's not a great score either. I was expecting an 8.0 or and 8.5! Can you give us more info about what they said. (The good stuff and the bad stuff about the Wii version...and what about the DS version) [[User: Cberiault]]

Here you go for the Wii Version http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o439/Chao_Rcute/NP247-MSatOWG02.png and the DS Version http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o439/Chao_Rcute/NP247-MSatOWG03.png [[User: Lindsayoris15]]


Thank you so much! So...in a nutshell, they said that the game is pretty good (even though there are flaws in some areas) They said that the dreams events brought smiles to their faces. And that the Wii Balance Board isn't terrible but it can be hard to win with. (I think it deserves at least a 7.5) All in all, they said that it's like the last one (but slightly better and slightly worse at the same time) I thought the last one was pretty good...this one shall be good too! 
[[User: Cberiault]]

==Fawful confirmed==
I heard fawfls in the game as a cameo. I'll show you a pic later.

{{User:Mario64fanatic/sig}}


Why are you showing us a picture later? Why not now? So you can finish making the (fake) picture? Nice try. I don't think he will appear, but if I'm really wrong and your right please show us this piture...also could you please tell us where you got this? I haven't heard anything about Fawful in the game.
{{unsigned|Cberiault}}

CAMEO! CAMEO! I just heard. I'm not sure. I forgot to put that in sorry. I'm trying to look for one though and I think ur right!
{{unsigned|Mario64fanatic}}

It's all fine. Where did you hear this? Was it a rumor?
{{unsigned|Cberiault}}

FIND THE PICTURE OR LEAVE ME IN FURY FOREVER!!!! :D {{User|Fawfulfury65}}

I heard it from a friend. He's lying! {{unsigned|Mario64fanatic}}

==Several Characters Confirmed!==
The official site (French and British versions, at least) has updated with a new trailer, showing off Wii bosses. New bosses featured are Omega, Eggman Nega and a Bullet Bill, while Dry Bowser is shown as a hockey player and presumed captain of a team of Dry Bones. Here's the site if you want to look yourselves;

[http://www.olympicvideogames.com/mario-and-sonic-winter/?t=EnglishUK Official site with video]

<3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 18:08, 7th October 2009 (GMT)

Whoa really cool! {{unsigned|Mario64fanatic}}

==Template==
Well first, let me say that I went ahead and created articles for the Sonic bosses that were just announced today. Anywhow, as we get more content from this game, should we create a new template? I changed the template from the original game, but as we get more content, some of the articles don't fit like the Snow Spirits and the bosses. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 16:20, 7 October 2009 (EDT) Should we make a new template?
:A navigation template or an infobox template? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:12, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

==Cream and Party Mode Confirmed==
Me again! Someone got hold of a torrent of the game, and posted the first eight minutes or so. Anyway, we see Cream talking us through tutorials with Toad, and there appears to be some sort of party mode. Here's the link;

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXZ6hy8D2Hw Mario and Sonic in-game stuffs]

<3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 07:51, 8th October 2009 (GMT)

==Jet Confirmed!==
Jet has been confirmed off a video on Youtube also including Dry Bowser, Dry Bones, Jet, Omega, Eggman Nega, Bullet Bill and more
As Bosses NOT playable characters

Go to Sonic Wikia to see the trailer{{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}

==Kat-rin Koopa's Feed O' Stuff==
Yay, I'm setting up a feed of all the wiki-related stuff that's been found. Whoop.

-There's a new DS trailer on the Aerican site. It shows that the Wii bosses are also present in Adventure Tours, and that the chests seen are the mini-game portals.

-New screenshots show a stage based on Nocturnus (from Sonic Chronicles). [http://www.sonicstadium.org/board/topic/15-sonic-chronicles-2/page__st__380 SSMB, one of the posts]

- A video of dream figure skating is up, and it is...rather extreme, with Green Hill Zone, Death Egg (Sonic 2) Zone, Station Square, Perfect Chaos as a boss, and Rouge confirmed to appear in the game. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnrSE0UpTc See all the busy crud, here.]

I'll update when more info comes in...

<3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 21:41, 8th October 2009 (GMT)

:Sorry, but that's not Rouge. It's a Mii dressed up to look like her. --{{User:FunkyK38/sig}} 18:46, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

Agreed with FunkyK38 but this suit may indicate some kind of appearence in the game.

{{User:Mario64fanatic/sig}}

M64F has the ball; I know it's a Mii suit, but it's a strong indication of an appearance.

-It seems that the channel with the figure skating has more videos. This one, for instance, shows Egg Factory (from Sonic Riders) as a location. 

[http://www.youtube.com/user/Sobol14#p/a/u/0/NTm8QrUC7Xo Their channel probably has more locations and things to wiki, too]

<3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 07:27, 9th October 2009 (GMT)

-There has been an image of Rouge leaked, thus confirming that she does appear as a boss (even though ONM said that, anyway...) the official site has also confirmed that there is a Mario version of Dream Figure Skating, where you skate across presumably several Mario settings to capture a star.

-Yep, the official website has been updated. It has more events/dream events added, but nothing so new. Are we sure we can't get rips of those Mario character renders (Bowser, Daisy, Wario and waluigi) for here?

<3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 17:34, 13th October 2009 (GMT)

-[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pafCvxjJig Dream Event video.] The Sonic Chronicles stage is actually just a couple of Chronicles structures at either end of the Sonic Heroes special stage.

<3 ~[[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 22:57, 13th October 2009 (GMT)

==Chaos Confirmed==
Chaos will be a boss in a dream event (I don't know what won it is though) {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}

It was Dream Figure Skating. There was a video but it was taken down by SEGA Europe.--[[User:LordVatek9|LordVatek9]] 16:28, 11 October 2009 (EDT)

I captured a screen shot of it, and uploaded it to the Wiki. I've added Perfect Chaos under list of cameos since he doesn't seem to have other roles besides that. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 20:56, 11 October 2009 (EDT)

==King Boo==
OMG! King Boo is going to be a boss! Me found info on youtube! {{User:GalacticPetey/sig|OMG!}}

Yes, we already knew that, it's on the oficial site.(sorry if it sounds angry)






== Game Secrets/Unlockables ==

Ok, so the game is almost out. (It comes out on Octorbor 13th...am I right?)And of course, (in the game) there will be unlockable dream events (confirmed) unlockable characters (probably...maybe not) and other unlockable content. Instead of writting everything (unlockable) down on the page where everyone can see it, I think that we should first disscuss the secret unlockable content on the talk page first. This will ensure that no fake info is released on the page like: Birdo is an unlockable character!....and then she turns out not being unlockable and we've fooled people who read that she is. (I'm not saying that she won't be in the game, I'm just showing an example) If everbody writes down what they think is unlockable the page will be messed up with true and untrue info. It will be a huge mess. That's why I think we should confirm it here on the talk page first before we put it on the actual page to ensure that no fake info is put on. Do you get what I'm saying? Does everyone agree with me? [[User: Cberiault]]

:I agree! {{User|Crackin355}}

==Another Boss Confirmed==
The Giant Robot on Sonic Heroes with the large helmet his weak spot is on his head is the final boss {{unsigned|Rosalina1632}}

Um...proof please.

OK I found out he's not a boss but he is an enemy look...  WWW.youtube.com?v=_pafCvxjJig

==Egg Pawn and Goomba==
What more can I say they are enemies in dream figure skating
--[[User:Rosalina1632|Rosalina1632]] 09:07, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
==Artworks==
I am wondering if it is possible to get the artworks of [[Waluigi]], [[Wario]], [[Daisy]], and [[Bowser]] off the official site. {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}

: Check what I said in a previous header addressing this issue. I'd rather we hope that the original versions of said arts get released during the course of this week. There's only a few days remaining until the Sega Europe region has their game release anyway. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:19, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

==Character's Types==

There was a screenshot on gamekult.com of the character select screen.
*All Around/Mario/Luigi/Amy/Blaze/Bowser Jr.
*Speed/Sonic/Daisy/Shadow/Yoshi/Metal Sonic
*Power/Knuckles/Bowser/Vector/Wario/DK
*Skill/Peach/Tails/Waluigi/Eggman/Silver

{{User:Supersmashbrosbrawl/sig}}

==VIP Discovered==
I just found out about VIP, with it a certain character will appear on a certain course, [[Birdo]] on Dream Ski Jump and [[Big the Cat]] on Dream Ski Cross just to name a few. When you see them, press the - button, then you can get 100 star points and thier character suit in the shop. Of course you have to pay for the suit. [[User:DK Fan]]


Do you know about anyone else who is a VIP character? [[User: Cberiault]]

If this is true, tell me where Birdo is exactly {{User|Crackin355}}

Not yet Cberiault, but I will update when I see them. As for you, Crackin355, she's on the top of a certain planet. [[User:DK Fan]]

This just discovered! [[Chaos]] in in Dream Snowboard Cross! [[User:DK Fan]]

Can they be in the crowd, because ive looked on every planet and havent found her...hmmmm, mabyes its a riddle? also, do you need to buy something from the secret shop for this to happen? {{User|Crackin355}}

Chaos is also in Dream Short Track! Gee, I wonder how he got there. By the way, when I saw him for the first time, I got a suit of the character I was playing, Metal Sonic instead. [[User:DK Fan]]

Im pretty sure they can be in any event, also a Pianta was found! <br>
http://au.gamespot.com/wii/sports/marioandsonicattheolympicwintergames/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-51817121&pid=958083 <br>
EDIT: When do they start telling you they are in events? {{User|Crackin355}}

I saw the second comment on Gamespot fourum about this, and I am not a noob! [[User:DK Fan]]

I never said you were a noob, im sorry you thought that but youre not one. I'm just putting here what i found. I finally found one, Chaos! He was in Dream Ice Hockey behind the Fence things, and i got the Peach & Wario suit by catching him. <br>
EDIT: I found Birdo, on Dream Short Track, hopping on a metal thing on the 2nd Green shake thingy. I also got the Knuckles suit by doing it. <br>
EDIT: I found Big in Dream Alpine, In the temple area on the left side in a little fishing area. and he was waving his arms (I Cant believe i missed him 3 times) {{User|Crackin355}}

No, but someone on the forum did. [[User:DK Fan]]

My golly, whoever wrote that [[Penguin]] was a VIP guest, he was right! Penguin is at Dream Ski Cross! [[User:DK Fan]]

Now [[Pianta]] has been spotted! He's at Dream Bobsleigh! [[User:DK Fan]]
EDIT: Oh, and about your'e eariar comment Crackin355, you get a letter from them. That's how!

[[Cream]] is at Dream Short Track! [[User:DK Fan]]
EDIT: I just got a medal for it, that's the last of the VIP guests.

I wont have enough time to find the rest of the VIP Characters because i have to take the game back to the Video store :( {{User|Crackin355}}

Can you show me a gameplay picture or video of Birdo?, plz  {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Sorry, but I don't know how to take pictures or videos from video games. [[User:DK Fan]]

With your cell phone :P {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

OOH I HAVE FOUND THIS!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZcD1kRieVI&feature=related  I'm afraid + Birdo is too ugly!! I do not like her costume :( {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

==One More Mario Boss?==
I don't think it's fair to have 4 [[Sonic]] bosses and only 3 [[Mario]] (not counting [[Dry Bones]] that is with [[Dry Bowser]]). So, is there one more Mario boss? {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}

There is a Dry Bones Curling Team in Team Festival Mode {{User|Crackin355}}

==More artworks==
{{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/d4/Mnsatowgartworks.png

Saw those two, but sadly, they haven't been related to the press yet. This is aggravating. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:15, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

== Separate ==

Wouldn't it be better and less cluttered if the Wii and DS version were in separate articles? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

that is definitely not crackle lackin. [[User:Luigi456|Luigi456]] 15:33, 2 November 2009 (EST)

What? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== Wii Balance Board ==

Do I need the Wii Balance Board to play the Wii version, or can I play all of the events without it?

--[[Image:Paper Mario.jpg]]'''[[Username:MarioMania|<span style="font-family:font; color:#EE0000;">Mario</span>]][[User talk:MarioMania|<span style="font-family:font; color:#0000FF;">Mania</span>]]'''[[Image:Paper Plumber.jpg|40px]]

Yup, you don't need it.

{{User: YoshiDaisyfan1/sig}}


Thanks!
[[Image:Paper Mario.jpg]]'''[[Username:MarioMania|<span style="font-family:font; color:#EE0000;">Mario</span>]][[User talk:MarioMania|<span style="font-family:font; color:#0000FF;">Mania</span>]]'''[[Image:Paper Plumber.jpg|40px]]

==Sticker Art==

In case some of you didn't know, Peach, DK, and Bowser have new solo artwork.

They are shown on the stickers that you can put on your skis and snowboards.

Also some Sonic people have new artwork.

{{User: YoshiDaisyfan1/sig}}

==Proof of VIP Santa==
[[Image:VIP Santa Invitation.png|400px]]<br>
Proof, since some people didn't believe it - [[User:Kamicciolo|Kamicciolo]]

== Screenshots ==

Shouldn't we delete that section since games that have already been released don't need a screenshots section. We did that to the NSMBW article so... we should do that here. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== VIP characters ==
{{talk}}

According to the Wii version, there are only 6 VIP characters. Pianta, Birdo, Penguin, Cream, Big, and Chaos. I received an emblem for finding all of the VIP characters and those (plus Santa) were the only ones I saw. Are these other characters in the DS version or something? Otherwise, the info is wrong. --[[User:SonicAngel948|SonicAngel948]] 07:59, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:Yes, they are also in the DS version. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

== ATTENTION: "Protection Status" in Effect ==

Due to recent edits by a certain user who is now permabanned (along with his <b>numerous sockpuppets to evade the ban itself</b>) the article itself is now in "registered users only" mode for three months. I am SEVERELY disappointed that the person responsible for this mess (CONSTANTLY editing this article with false information) just doesn't want to comply with policy; hence as I said earlier -- his main account, the sockpuppet accounts, AND HIS IP are now permabanned. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 18:13, 21 January 2010 (EST)

== Big Bullet Bill ==
{{talk}}

I see that the link to Big Bullet Bill redirects you to [[Bullet Bill]]. Shouldn't it redirect to [[Banzai Bill]], though. A Banzai Bill is an over-sized Bullet Bill, isn't it? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:Well, what does it look like? {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::Um... well the last time I tried to redirect it to Banzai Bill, someone undid my edit, saying that ''"An oversized bullet bill is not the same as a banzai bill"''. But Banzai Bill and Big Bullet Bill are exactly the same. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:::Just find an image and see if it's an oversized Bullet Bill or a Banzai Bill. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}

== Emblems... ==
{{talk}}
Okay, I checked the Emblem page, nothing, and I check the gallery page, nothing. I was trying to find any info for the emblems you gain in the game for reaching certain things. I want to know if the page exist for both of the Olympic Games, or if no one has created one yet. Please note me soon, so that if not, I can create a page for the emblems in both games (that is what I mainly aim for in the games, I have a lot of them...). {{User:Baby Mario Bloops/sig}}
::Well, I checked everywhere, so, I'm going to make a page for it. If someone does find the orginal one, than they can delete the one I'm making... - Baby Mario Bloops