Editing Talk:Mario's face

Where has he been officially named?{{User:Knife/sig}} 20:50, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Backround of the mini games. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 20:55, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

K.{{User:Knife/sig}} 20:56, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Why the crap is this here? [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]]
:Stop swearing, thank you. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:56, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Crap is considered a swear-word? Alright. [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]]
:It's more the fact that you didn't seriously made an attempt to critizise the article, just shouted at it. And a talk page doesn't need shouting. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:59, 23 January 2008 (EST)

I was critizing the article, and I hasn't shouting. It had a question mark. Anyway, why ''is'' this here? It seems a little too background-ish, like making an article of the Super Mario 64 Health bar or something. [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]]
:Yeah, it sounds like Snufit Ball or something... So why do we need an article of a floating Mario head? 0_o {{User:InfectedShroom/sig}}
::Because it's awesome. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 07:56, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
:::Well, snufit ball was awesome too, but it got deleted. And anyway, where was this really ''named''? [[User:GreenKoopa|GreenKoopa]] - [[User talk:GreenKoopa|Comments or questions?]]
::::Like Plums said above, the background of SM64DS's minigames. Even still, though, it's debatable if that's really referring to the head, but I think this should stay; it's got quite a bit of info for a smaller article. {{User:YellowYoshi398/sig}}

How do you know that the name of this head is Mario Mini?[[User:Wii Ware|Wii Ware]] 10:30, 24 November 2008 (EST)
:Read what Plums said. {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}

Better redirect this to [[Mario Mini]], S-Y.[[User:Wii Ware|Wii Ware]] 10:38, 24 November 2008 (EST)
:Why? It was officially named "mario mini", not "Mario Mini". So we should leave it, or SoS recently put a <nowiki>{{TobeDeleted}}</nowiki> template on there, so alot of users are gonna discuss about this I guess. {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}
::I see no reason for a deletion. It's officially named, it's interactive, it appears in multiple games and the article has a notable amount of information. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 11:12, 24 November 2008 (EST)

I think we need some more proof.  Some actual visual '''proof'''.  A word in the background of a mini-game doesn't sound very official.  Where does this word appear?  For what mini-games?  That information is not given.  Furthermore, the info for mini-games does not necessarily apply to all games where Mario's head is featured (such as Mario Teaches Typing - that's simply a representation of Mario).  The info at best would only apply to those mini-games.  And does this info apply to Mario Paint, where you can stamp a head of Mario on the page without his body?  Does it apply to the intro to the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, which feature's Mario's head talking to the audience?  Should we make articles for all the character heads that appear in the Mario Party series?  Mario's head appears in a lot of games, so technically we should be adding information for all of Mario's head's appearances.  I feel the concept of an interactive Mario head is best served in Mario's article or in the articles of individual games.  Ultimately I don't think a word in the background of a mini-game is '''conclusive''' evidence of a name for Mario's head. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
:I have to side with SoS and the above user who said this is like making an article about a health bar.  Please also note that the ''Super Mario 64'' instruction booklet referred to it as "Mario's face." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:23, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Good concerns, the ones made by SoS and Stumpers. I suggest that a sysop redirect this for [[Mario's face]] since it was mentioned in the SM64DS Manual.[[User:Wii Ware|Wii Ware]] 14:37, 24 November 2008 (EST)

:I wouldn't.  That would be like creating an article for "Yoshi's Arm" or "Waluigi's Nose."  This article is listed under "game mechanics" but it doesn't describe a general trend in gameplay across the Mario series.  The use of Mario's face is dependent on the individual game Mario's face is deployed in.  Any information, if kept, should be merged with its repsective game or mini-game article.  {{User|Son of Suns}}


There is a difference with this and (Character Body Part). The concept of having a Giant Flying Mario head has appeared in '''multiple games''' where the head was separate from Mario, how many times did you see Waluigi's nose separate from his body? --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (EST)
:Blitz has a point here, if it appeared in alot of stuff, even in like 4 games, it deserves to atleast be mentioned. {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}

Floating character heads have appeared a lot of games as well.  Should articles be written about them?  Every playable character has a flying character head in Mario Party and Mario Party 2 (and I'm sure a few more, such as when character heads have to look the right way, shape the face (including Bowser's face), etc.); Yoshi has a flying head in Super Mario 64 DS; Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi, and Miis all had flying heads in Super Mario Galaxy; Wario has a flying head in WarioWare: Smooth Moves, etc.  And do icons (avatars) of floating heads count as floating heads?  Super Mario All-Stars feature Mario heads in the background of treasure rooms, does that count?  Frankly the concept is too vague to merit an article, but as I mentioned before could be written about in respective game (or mini-game) articles.  The name "mario mini" only really applies to those one or two mini-games (which may only mean that the Mario is part of the mini-game, hence "mini mario," not a name for the head).  We simply '''don't know''' what that even refers too.  {{User|Son of Suns}}

[[Image:MarioMiniSM64DS.png|thumb|left]]
Here's an image of mario mini, and the little tv's or w.e they are only appear when mario mini does, what do you think it could be referring too? Also, I agree with your point about the floating characters faces. {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig|Maybe we could have a proposal about this.}}

Just thought I'd drop in my rational for removing the deletion request. Basically, the article is detailed and well worked on, so I found it kind of odd that a deletion tag would suddenly be dropped on it. That's basically it. I have no other opinion on this matter and will not stand in the way of whatever decision is made. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 22:03, 24 November 2008 (EST)

My logic for keeping the article about the Mario head is that it's more important, the other characters floating head are well- Floating heads. But the Giant Mario head has been the subject of two/three/four minigames, a '''tech demo''' and was the host of another game (You might say the head in Teaches Typing is just a representation, but then, why didn't they just use Mario in his complete body? He appears as himself in the Story mode), the Mario Floating head as it appear in SM64DS/Typing is more relevant than every other instance of floating head. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 15:33, 25 November 2008 (EST)

:Regardless if this article is kept, the name of '''mario mini''' is problematic.  As Blitzwing just pointed out (but I don't neccessarily agree with) is that there seems to be an established convention of floating Mario heads for the past few years (to decade or more) in the greater Mario franchise and thus the concept deserves an article.  Fine, that's a valid point.  However, the name '''mario mini''' is extremely vague - we don't know what it refers to, and ultimately at the very most I feel it only applies (if it applies at all) to the Mario heads in those few SM64DS mini-games, but not to the tech demo, not to the Mario Teaches Typing head, etc.  Basically, there is a convention of floating Mario heads, but it is a stretch to call them all "mario mini", especially since the meaning of the words is ambiguous.  So if this article is kept, I suggest a name change that actually accomodates all the depictions of this Mario head convention. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
::I think this deserves an article, but I agree that the name is questionable. Well, the words appear in some mini-games in the background. Yes, ''mini''-games. As you can see [[:Image:SM64DS ToxBoxShuffle.jpg|here]], "mini mario" is also used in the Japanese version. Most of you surely [[Wikipedia:Engrish|know]] that Japanese often don't care that much if those English words really make sense or not (think of "[http://themushroomkingdom.net/sms_j-e.shtml#shine_get Shine Get!]"), as long as it's "cool" and "exotic". I mean, "mario mini" could just stand for "''Mario mini''-games". The Mario head in ''Super Mario 64'' has a background pattern that reads "Super Mario 64". Because, well, you play the named game. And perhaps because you play mini-games instead of the "big game", it has been changed to "mario mini" for the mini-games. Just a thought. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:25, 25 November 2008 (EST)
:::Yeah, I too think the name is kind of weird. And as someone pointed out above, the SM64 manual call it "Mario's Face", that seems a name more official than some nonsense sentence in the background of a few minigames. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:42, 25 November 2008 (EST)
::::That was me... but I belive it was "Mario's face," improper.  It only has a descriptive name, like our [[Cheepy's mother]] rather than an actual, official name. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 20:09, 25 November 2008 (EST)
:::::Checked SM64 instruction manual: "Mario's face," as Stumpers has said. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
::::::So will this be moved? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:35, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Bu what about the the mario mini from Mario Teaches Typing 2? It not called Mario's Face right or it is? {{User:Princess Grapes Butterfly/sig}}

I say it is a seperate character because one quote from MTT2 he says that he finally gets to "move on the ground", implying the character has never touched the ground and is therefore not Mario.

== Super Mario Bros. Super Show ==

Would the introduction to the show be counted as an appearance of the face... it has the floating, disembodied head of Mario. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:49, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

:Why not? =) -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
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 Bu what about the the mario mini from Mario Teaches Typing 2? It not called Mario's Face right or it is? {{User:Princess Grapes Butterfly/sig}}
-I say it is a seperate character because one quote from MTT2 he says that he finally gets to "move on the ground", implying the character has never touched the ground and is therefore not Mario.--[[User:Koopapoopa|Koopapoopa]] 01:33, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
+I say it is a seperate character because one quote from MTT2 he says that he finally gets to "move on the ground", implying the character has never touched the ground and is therefore not Mario.
 == Super Mario Bros. Super Show ==
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 :Why not? =) -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
-== should it be merged ==
-I think this should be merged with the mario article.
-== What is this? seriously? ==
-Is this even needed? Am I the only one feeling this article is a bit redundant?--{{User:Dashbot/sig}} 17:21, 17 March 2014 (EDT)
-I agree. I don't think Mario's face needs an entire article. Maybe move some info to relevant sections in the [[Mario]] article, you know? It's even suggested in the section above. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 19:25, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
-:While I would normally agree with you on anything else, Mario's face has been subject to alot of things, been rgarded as a character, and it's not like the article is a stub. Eh. And why bother?[[User:Toadbrigade5|Toadbrigade5]] ([[User talk:Toadbrigade5|talk]]) 17:15, 8 July 2014 (EDT)
-== A couple things ==
-. As discussed years ago, shouldn't we mention the face's appearance in the Super Mario Bros Super Show's opening?
-. Shouldn't we mention other characters' heads here as well like add the images of characters heads such as the file icons from Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 and the face lift images from Mario Party 1 & 2's Face Lift minigame in the image section?
---[[User:TheGreenBeetle|TheGreenBeetle]] ([[User talk:TheGreenBeetle|talk]]) 23:05, December 4, 2019 (EST)
-== Mario's head appears in every game. ==
-Mario's head appears in every game. Whenever there is a icon of Mario, it means that it is Mario's head. That also applies to other characters too. Because of that, there should be articles like [[Luigi's head]], [[Peach's head]], [[Toad's head]], [[Link's head]], etc. That is the thing. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 18:12, August 5, 2021 (EDT)
-:This article is specifically about Mario's face as an interactable thing like in Super Mario 64,  it does not cover any instant where Mario's head is just a menu icon. Articles for the other character's heads would just be repetative and redundant. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 18:26, August 5, 2021 (EDT)
-OK. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 18:27, August 5, 2021 (EDT)