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I recently added to the '''abilities''' section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. [[User:BoomOfThe4thWall]] | I recently added to the '''abilities''' section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. [[User:BoomOfThe4thWall]] | ||
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==Split {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} from [[Luigi]]== | ==Split {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} from [[Luigi]]== | ||
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This split was brought up more than a decade ago in [[Talk:Luigi#Split a SMG Luigi into a new article|this proposal]] but the proposer failed to clarify what he meant and it was misinterpreted by those who opposed it. When playing as [[Luigi]] in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', the NPC Luigi that you'd normally rescue when playing as [[Mario]] still shows up and has completely different dialogue when speaking to the playable Luigi. [[Rosalina]] refers to the NPC Luigi as the playable Luigi's "twin". This would mean the inverse would be true as well; The playable Luigi is the NPC Luigi's twin. For those who opposed in the past proposal on this topic, this proposal would <span style="color:red">'''not'''</span> be splitting every appearance of Luigi into different articles, it would <span style="color:red">'''only'''</span> be splitting the Luigi who '''quite literally''' appears in the same room as the playable Luigi. The playable and NPC Luigi have different heights and one is silent and is more brave and courageous whereas the other is more cautious and has a lot to say. Regarding which Luigi to split into the {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} article, we could split either into the article since there is not confirmation on which is the real Luigi and which is the impostor. However, I would consider the playable Luigi to be the "twin" since the NPC Luigi's actions are much more accurate to Luigi's character and we see Luigi show up in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' as an NPC before said NPC is later unlocked as a playable character. | This split was brought up more than a decade ago in [[Talk:Luigi#Split a SMG Luigi into a new article|this proposal]] but the proposer failed to clarify what he meant and it was misinterpreted by those who opposed it. When playing as [[Luigi]] in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', the NPC Luigi that you'd normally rescue when playing as [[Mario]] still shows up and has completely different dialogue when speaking to the playable Luigi. [[Rosalina]] refers to the NPC Luigi as the playable Luigi's "twin". This would mean the inverse would be true as well; The playable Luigi is the NPC Luigi's twin. For those who opposed in the past proposal on this topic, this proposal would <span style="color:red">'''not'''</span> be splitting every appearance of Luigi into different articles, it would <span style="color:red">'''only'''</span> be splitting the Luigi who '''quite literally''' appears in the same room as the playable Luigi. The playable and NPC Luigi have different heights and one is silent and is more brave and courageous whereas the other is more cautious and has a lot to say. Regarding which Luigi to split into the {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} article, we could split either into the article since there is not confirmation on which is the real Luigi and which is the impostor. However, I would consider the playable Luigi to be the "twin" since the NPC Luigi's actions are much more accurate to Luigi's character and we see Luigi show up in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' as an NPC before said NPC is later unlocked as a playable character. | ||
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#{{User|Pizza Master}} Secondary choice. | #{{User|Pizza Master}} Secondary choice. | ||
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} This makes more sense to us, personally. The idea seems to be that the NPC Luigi is the "Twin", while the Luigi you play as is just Luigi. The memetic pop-up ''does'' say "You can now play as Luigi", after all, not "You can now play as Luigi's Twin" or anything like that. If we have to give this weird phenomenon an article (and to be honest here, we think it has some merit covering this weirdness in its own article), this feels like the simpler--and probably more logical--split to make. | #{{User|Camwoodstock}} This makes more sense to us, personally. The idea seems to be that the NPC Luigi is the "Twin", while the Luigi you play as is just Luigi. The memetic pop-up ''does'' say "You can now play as Luigi", after all, not "You can now play as Luigi's Twin" or anything like that. If we have to give this weird phenomenon an article (and to be honest here, we think it has some merit covering this weirdness in its own article), this feels like the simpler--and probably more logical--split to make. | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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#{{User|Sparks}} Per all. | #{{User|Sparks}} Per all. | ||
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Would we even know which one is the "main" Luigi? It's speculative from that especially. (Granted, this makes me want to re-examine the ''Paper Jam'' situation...) | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Would we even know which one is the "main" Luigi? It's speculative from that especially. (Granted, this makes me want to re-examine the ''Paper Jam'' situation...) | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
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:Any speculation should ideally be avoided, big or small. And Luigi's roles (and degree of similarity to Mario) vary often between games. Luigi being an NPC side character is hardly unheard of (Super Mario Odyssey, Mario RPG, most Paper Mario games, etc.). {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:02, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | :Any speculation should ideally be avoided, big or small. And Luigi's roles (and degree of similarity to Mario) vary often between games. Luigi being an NPC side character is hardly unheard of (Super Mario Odyssey, Mario RPG, most Paper Mario games, etc.). {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:02, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::At least in our vote's case, we would appreciate a split for the Luigi NPC that happens to also be there if you, yourself, are playing as Luigi; since Rosalina claims it's his twin, and that seems to be about as official explanation as we're about to get. We do admit that this is a comically niche article, but we still think it has more merit than Junior (II), who was quite literally just a palette swap that received zero acknowledgement as being unique outside the manual. In contrast, the "duplicate" NPC Luigi being described as the playable Luigi's twin ''is'' given a direct comment. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 03:25, September 30, 2024 (EDT) | ::At least in our vote's case, we would appreciate a split for the Luigi NPC that happens to also be there if you, yourself, are playing as Luigi; since Rosalina claims it's his twin, and that seems to be about as official explanation as we're about to get. We do admit that this is a comically niche article, but we still think it has more merit than Junior (II), who was quite literally just a palette swap that received zero acknowledgement as being unique outside the manual. In contrast, the "duplicate" NPC Luigi being described as the playable Luigi's twin ''is'' given a direct comment. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 03:25, September 30, 2024 (EDT) | ||
{{@|Camwoodstock|Hewer|FanOfYoshi|Nintendo101|Nightwicked Bowser|Arend|Sdman213|SolemnStormcloud|ThePowerPlayer|Sparks|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Ok, if we don't do this, what about converting the ''[[Super Luigi Galaxy]]'' redirect into an actual article that goes over all the differences in Luigi's "campaign" like visual changes, dialogue changes, text changes, gameplay, and mission changes, etc.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 22:46, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | {{@|Camwoodstock|Hewer|FanOfYoshi|Nintendo101|Nightwicked Bowser|Arend|Sdman213|SolemnStormcloud|ThePowerPlayer|Sparks|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Ok, if we don't do this, what about converting the ''[[Super Luigi Galaxy]]'' redirect into an actual article that goes over all the differences in Luigi's "campaign" like visual changes, dialogue changes, text changes, gameplay, and mission changes, etc.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 22:46, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | ||
