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I recently added to the '''abilities''' section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. [[User:BoomOfThe4thWall]] | I recently added to the '''abilities''' section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. [[User:BoomOfThe4thWall]] | ||
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==Split {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} from [[Luigi]]== | ==Split {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} from [[Luigi]]== | ||
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This split was brought up more than a decade ago in [[Talk:Luigi#Split a SMG Luigi into a new article|this proposal]] but the proposer failed to clarify what he meant and it was misinterpreted by those who opposed it. When playing as [[Luigi]] in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', the NPC Luigi that you'd normally rescue when playing as [[Mario]] still shows up and has completely different dialogue when speaking to the playable Luigi. [[Rosalina]] refers to the NPC Luigi as the playable Luigi's "twin". This would mean the inverse would be true as well; The playable Luigi is the NPC Luigi's twin. For those who opposed in the past proposal on this topic, this proposal would <span style="color:red">'''not'''</span> be splitting every appearance of Luigi into different articles, it would <span style="color:red">'''only'''</span> be splitting the Luigi who '''quite literally''' appears in the same room as the playable Luigi. The playable and NPC Luigi have different heights and one is silent and is more brave and courageous whereas the other is more cautious and has a lot to say. Regarding which Luigi to split into the {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} article, we could split either into the article since there is not confirmation on which is the real Luigi and which is the impostor. However, I would consider the playable Luigi to be the "twin" since the NPC Luigi's actions are much more accurate to Luigi's character and we see Luigi show up in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' as an NPC before said NPC is later unlocked as a playable character. | This split was brought up more than a decade ago in [[Talk:Luigi#Split a SMG Luigi into a new article|this proposal]] but the proposer failed to clarify what he meant and it was misinterpreted by those who opposed it. When playing as [[Luigi]] in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', the NPC Luigi that you'd normally rescue when playing as [[Mario]] still shows up and has completely different dialogue when speaking to the playable Luigi. [[Rosalina]] refers to the NPC Luigi as the playable Luigi's "twin". This would mean the inverse would be true as well; The playable Luigi is the NPC Luigi's twin. For those who opposed in the past proposal on this topic, this proposal would <span style="color:red">'''not'''</span> be splitting every appearance of Luigi into different articles, it would <span style="color:red">'''only'''</span> be splitting the Luigi who '''quite literally''' appears in the same room as the playable Luigi. The playable and NPC Luigi have different heights and one is silent and is more brave and courageous whereas the other is more cautious and has a lot to say. Regarding which Luigi to split into the {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} article, we could split either into the article since there is not confirmation on which is the real Luigi and which is the impostor. However, I would consider the playable Luigi to be the "twin" since the NPC Luigi's actions are much more accurate to Luigi's character and we see Luigi show up in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' as an NPC before said NPC is later unlocked as a playable character. | ||
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#{{User|Pizza Master}} Secondary choice. | #{{User|Pizza Master}} Secondary choice. | ||
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} This makes more sense to us, personally. The idea seems to be that the NPC Luigi is the "Twin", while the Luigi you play as is just Luigi. The memetic pop-up ''does'' say "You can now play as Luigi", after all, not "You can now play as Luigi's Twin" or anything like that. If we have to give this weird phenomenon an article (and to be honest here, we think it has some merit covering this weirdness in its own article), this feels like the simpler--and probably more logical--split to make. | #{{User|Camwoodstock}} This makes more sense to us, personally. The idea seems to be that the NPC Luigi is the "Twin", while the Luigi you play as is just Luigi. The memetic pop-up ''does'' say "You can now play as Luigi", after all, not "You can now play as Luigi's Twin" or anything like that. If we have to give this weird phenomenon an article (and to be honest here, we think it has some merit covering this weirdness in its own article), this feels like the simpler--and probably more logical--split to make. | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per all. | #{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all, and especially per what they did to my beloved Pink Donkey Kong Jr. | #{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all, and especially per what they did to my beloved Pink Donkey Kong Jr. | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
Camwoodstock's argument makes sense as a (mostly) non-speculative way to split the two Luigis. Also, the NPC Luigi is actually referred to by something other than simply Luigi ("your twin" by [[Rosalina]]) that would imply that the two characters are different people unlike with "Pink Donkey Kong Jr./Jr (II)" where the Pink one is just implied to be the P2 version of [[DKJR]]. Also, the playable [[Luigi]] races against [[Cosmic Luigi]] and functions almost identically to [[Mario]] whereas the NPC Luigi does their own thing and finds hidden stars that the player can't find. NPC Luigi (or Luigi's twin) in this argument functions more as a mechanic of the game than the actual Luigi and therefore should be documented as a minor mechanic (that is also a character) of ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' akin to the [[Co-Star Luma]] or [[Ally|Allies]] of the [[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]] series.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 16:53, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | Camwoodstock's argument makes sense as a (mostly) non-speculative way to split the two Luigis. Also, the NPC Luigi is actually referred to by something other than simply Luigi ("your twin" by [[Rosalina]]) that would imply that the two characters are different people unlike with "Pink Donkey Kong Jr./Jr (II)" where the Pink one is just implied to be the P2 version of [[DKJR]]. Also, the playable [[Luigi]] races against [[Cosmic Luigi]] and functions almost identically to [[Mario]] whereas the NPC Luigi does their own thing and finds hidden stars that the player can't find. NPC Luigi (or Luigi's twin) in this argument functions more as a mechanic of the game than the actual Luigi and therefore should be documented as a minor mechanic (that is also a character) of ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' akin to the [[Co-Star Luma]] or [[Ally|Allies]] of the [[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]] series.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 16:53, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:Any speculation should ideally be avoided, big or small. And Luigi's roles (and degree of similarity to Mario) vary often between games. Luigi being an NPC side character is hardly unheard of (Super Mario Odyssey, Mario RPG, most Paper Mario games, etc.). {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:02, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | :Any speculation should ideally be avoided, big or small. And Luigi's roles (and degree of similarity to Mario) vary often between games. Luigi being an NPC side character is hardly unheard of (Super Mario Odyssey, Mario RPG, most Paper Mario games, etc.). {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:02, September 29, 2024 (EDT) | ||
