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=='Negative' Impact==
=='Negative' Impact==
I recently added to the '''abilities''' section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. [[User:BoomOfThe4thWall]]
I recently added to the '''abilities''' section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. [[User:BoomOfThe4thWall]]
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::In ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', a character who did not no them referred to them as "middle-aged." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 23:17, 1 December 2008 (EST)
::In ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', a character who did not no them referred to them as "middle-aged." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 23:17, 1 December 2008 (EST)


I always thought Mario is 31 and Luigi is 28. So that would mean Mario is older than Luigi by a few years. But Mario just seems older to me for some reason. [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]] [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]] [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]]
I always thought Mario is 31 and Luigi is 28. So that would mean Mario is older than Luigi by a few years. But Mario just seems older to me for some reason. [[Image:Lemmy4.gif]] [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]] [[Image:Lemmy4.gif]]


It doesn't seem like they could be twins. [[User:BulletBill|BulletBill]] 12:57, 7 November 2011 (EST)
It doesn't seem like they could be twins. [[User:BulletBill|BulletBill]] 12:57, 7 November 2011 (EST)
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--{{User:Pichi-Hime6/sig}} 20:32, 30 January 2012 (EST)
--{{User:Pichi-Hime6/sig}} 20:32, 30 January 2012 (EST)
I'm agree that he is [[Mario]]'s Twin Brother. Talk less, read more. You better read the wiki page carefully before asking. [[Special:Contributions/180.254.179.58|180.254.179.58]] 23:42, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
:You do realize you're responding to a 2 year old message, right? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:44, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
::Okay, i am gonna forget about this. I only want to say that they should see the wiki page carefully. [[Special:Contributions/180.254.179.58|180.254.179.58]] 23:50, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
"Yeah it's likely that Luigi is just Mario's younger twin! I'm a younger twin by two minutes...But many years older Mario fandom wise!" -Luigidude17, twin brother of Luigigirl17(not a real user, just my sister's nickname.)
SMB Wonder is another canonical (in-game text!) mention of his "twin but younger twin" status.  Could this go in the article’s Age section? [[User:Pichugetic|Pichugetic]] ([[User talk:Pichugetic|talk]]) 18:33, March 21, 2024 (EDT)


==Images==
==Images==
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I reckon I'm-a Luigi umber one! is better[[Image:MP8 DryBones.png|50px]]'''[[User:Super Yoshi10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Black;">Super </span>]]''' '''[[User talk:Super Yoshi10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Green;">Yoshi10</span>]]'''[[Image:YoshiMP8art.png|20px]][http://yoshilegacy.co.nr/| Lookey This][[Image:Black Yoshi Move.gif|30px]]
I reckon I'm-a Luigi umber one! is better[[Image:MP8 DryBones.png|50px]]'''[[User:Super Yoshi10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Black;">Super </span>]]''' '''[[User talk:Super Yoshi10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Green;">Yoshi10</span>]]'''[[Image:YoshiMP8art.png|20px]][http://yoshilegacy.co.nr/| Lookey This][[Image:Black Yoshi Move.gif|30px]]


:I disagree because it's more of a...well, it's a quote from an unpopular game and people just like it because they use it in a lot of Youtube Poop. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>
:I disagree because it's more of a...well, it's a quote from an unpopular game and people just like it because they use it in a lot of Youtube Poop. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif


Oh, I don't know, all I know is Luigi is so not respected enough.
Oh, I don't know, all I know is Luigi is so not respected enough.
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On Wikipeda, they mention Luigi's thunder-hand from M&L:SS and how his symbol in Strikers was a thunder-bolt. Add this in! (Without taking the exact text of course)
On Wikipeda, they mention Luigi's thunder-hand from M&L:SS and how his symbol in Strikers was a thunder-bolt. Add this in! (Without taking the exact text of course)
[[User: Klaus Kratchet|Klaus Kratchet]]
[[User: Klaus Kratchet|Klaus Kratchet]]
In Mario Super Sluggers, Luigi has tornado when pitching/batting. This could mean he has air powers.


==Vote for the Main Quote==
==Vote for the Main Quote==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|3-1-1|change to option 1}}
 
As the title says, this is a vote to decide the main quote. I want to change it, but I suppose I should bring this here before making any change. [[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]]  
As the title says, this is a vote to decide the main quote. I want to change it, but I suppose I should bring this here before making any change. [[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]]  


'''Option 1'''
'''Option 1'''


{{quote|I'm-a Luigi, number one!|Luigi|[[Mario Kart 64]]}}
{{LLQuote|I'm-a Luigi, number one!|Luigi|[[Mario Kart 64]]}}


'''Option 2'''
'''Option 2'''
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:Yeah, it's quite obviously a fake. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:10, 21 January 2008 (EST)
:Yeah, it's quite obviously a fake. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:10, 21 January 2008 (EST)


It is if you look closely the bold line looks thin. And his overalls are light blue! (Aren't they suppose to be jean coloured) [[File:LuigiPM2.PNG]] [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 20:59, 15 February 2008 (EST) (And his ear is all mess up.)
It is if you look closely the bold line looks thin. And his overalls are light blue! (Aren't they suppose to be jean coloured) [[Image:PM2_Luigi.PNG]] [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 20:59, 15 February 2008 (EST) (And his ear is all mess up.)


==Luigi's Final Smash==
==Luigi's Final Smash==
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::You're right. The aticle would mention in the first few sentences that it was really Luigi, but it's pretty obvious. (Actually, when I saw Mr. L, I wasn't sure if it was Luigi after being hypnotized, or some sort of clone or evil twin of Luigi.) But that doesn't really matter, there's a ton of spoilers on the wiki and not much to do about it. But a Mr. L article sounds like a good idea to me. Anyone want to make it? Pseudo-dino first mentioned it, does he want to make it? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}
::You're right. The aticle would mention in the first few sentences that it was really Luigi, but it's pretty obvious. (Actually, when I saw Mr. L, I wasn't sure if it was Luigi after being hypnotized, or some sort of clone or evil twin of Luigi.) But that doesn't really matter, there's a ton of spoilers on the wiki and not much to do about it. But a Mr. L article sounds like a good idea to me. Anyone want to make it? Pseudo-dino first mentioned it, does he want to make it? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}


:::A Mr. L article would definatly work. His millions of appearances throughout the game, information about his HP and battle technices ([[Shroom Shake]]!), a quote of his, how Luigi turned into Mr. L after he tried to escape, how he joined Bleck, how he got turned back into Luigi after bieng "killed", how they later found out who he really was and his mention in Brawl. Sounds article worthy. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>
:::A Mr. L article would definatly work. His millions of appearances throughout the game, information about his HP and battle technices ([[Shroom Shake]]!), a quote of his, how Luigi turned into Mr. L after he tried to escape, how he joined Bleck, how he got turned back into Luigi after bieng "killed", how they later found out who he really was and his mention in Brawl. Sounds article worthy. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif


==Out of Order Pictures==
==Out of Order Pictures==
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In [[Mario Superstar Baseball]], Luigi shares bad chemistry with not just King Boo, but also with Boo.  Where as Mario doesn't share bad chemistry with Koopas or Goombas.  {{User:White Knight/sig}}
In [[Mario Superstar Baseball]], Luigi shares bad chemistry with not just King Boo, but also with Boo.  Where as Mario doesn't share bad chemistry with Koopas or Goombas.  {{User:White Knight/sig}}
:The chemistry does not determine all relationships. (Goomba with a good chemsitry with Diddy Kong??) Anyway, I just noticed... Daisy has a bad chemistry with Waluigi. Does this support the Daisy-Luigi relationship, perhaps? o_0 {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}
:The chemistry does not determine all relationships. (Goomba with a good chemsitry with Diddy Kong??) Anyway, I just noticed... Daisy has a bad chemistry with Waluigi. Does this support the Daisy-Luigi relationship, perhaps? o_0 {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}
::I certainly think so. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:15, December 19, 2022 (CST)


Possibly...
Possibly...
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==Merge [[Casanova Koopa]] with [[Luigi]]==
==Merge [[Casanova Koopa]] with [[Luigi]]==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|6-1|merge}}
 
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">Merge 6-1</span>
 
This proposal is to merge Cassanova Koopa with Luigi. I tried this a couple weeks ago, but it was confusing. But I got the hang of it. Anyway, I think we should merge these two pages because if Kootie Pie's human form should be put in Wendy O's page than so should Cassanova Koopa with Luigi.
This proposal is to merge Cassanova Koopa with Luigi. I tried this a couple weeks ago, but it was confusing. But I got the hang of it. Anyway, I think we should merge these two pages because if Kootie Pie's human form should be put in Wendy O's page than so should Cassanova Koopa with Luigi.


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== Split a SMG Luigi into a new article ==
== Split a SMG Luigi into a new article ==
{{settled TPP}}
{{settledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|0-5-14|split neither}}
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SPLIT NEITHER 0-5-14</span>
This kinda came up incidentally in a discussion on Boom Boom's talk page, and I think it's a valid point. There are two Luigis in ''Super Mario Galaxy'', and they look different. Therefore, one of them should be split to a different page, {{fake link|Luigi (Super Mario Galaxy)}}, kinda like the [[Pink Donkey Kong Jr.]] article, though the differences are far more drastic there. I think the important question is which one, however.
 
This kinda came up incidentally in a discussion on Boom Boom's talk page, and I think it's a valid point. There are two Luigis in ''Super Mario Galaxy'', and they look different. Therefore, one of them should be split to a different page, {{fakelink|Luigi (Super Mario Galaxy)}}, kinda like the [[Pink Donkey Kong Jr.]] article, though the differences are far more drastic there. I think the important question is which one, however.


'''Proposer''': {{User|1337star}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|1337star}}<br>
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More of a sequel.
More of a sequel.


--[[File:Alien_Bunny_Sprite.png|35px]][[User:L151|<font color=purple><big>'''L'''</big></font color>]][[User Talk:L151|<font color=pink><big>'''151'''</big></font color>]][[File:Onnanoko_transparent_WC98.png|25px]] 00:10, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
--[[File:Alien_Bunny_Sprite.png‎|35px]][[User:L151|<font color=purple><big>'''L'''</big></font color>]][[User Talk:L151|<font color=pink><big>'''151'''</big></font color>]][[File:Onnanoko_transparent_WC98.png‎|25px]] 00:10, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
::A sequel to what, exactly? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:19, December 19, 2022 (CST)


== Year of Luigi ==
== Year of Luigi ==
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Luigi has the Parents category on his article... Explain to me exactly when Luigi was shown to have children? --{{User:SuperYoshiBros/sig}} 21:49, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
Luigi has the Parents category on his article... Explain to me exactly when Luigi was shown to have children? --{{User:SuperYoshiBros/sig}} 21:49, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
:"Thats Mama Luigi to you" Taken out of contex I'd expect.----- {{unsigned|75.19.157.227}}
:"Thats Mama Luigi to you" Taken out of contex I'd expect.----- {{unsigned|‎75.19.157.227}}


== Trivia on the recent Q&A with Luigi ==
== Trivia on the recent Q&A with Luigi ==
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Shouldn't it be DKjr, not Mario Bros? Granted in DKjr he didn't have his trademark green clothes yet, instead dressing identically to Mario, but who else could it possibly have been helping Mario with the captured Donkey Kong? Then when they made Mario Bros and brought him back they had to make him look different since it was 2 player simultaneous and players had to know who was who, so they changed his coloring, but he definitely had to be the "2nd Mario" in DKjr even if all his trademark characteristics hadn't been ironed out yet (sort of how Mario was called Jumpman in the first DK, but it's still Mario's first appearance).[[Special:Contributions/76.226.130.212|76.226.130.212]] 20:41, 17 January 2014 (EST)
Shouldn't it be DKjr, not Mario Bros? Granted in DKjr he didn't have his trademark green clothes yet, instead dressing identically to Mario, but who else could it possibly have been helping Mario with the captured Donkey Kong? Then when they made Mario Bros and brought him back they had to make him look different since it was 2 player simultaneous and players had to know who was who, so they changed his coloring, but he definitely had to be the "2nd Mario" in DKjr even if all his trademark characteristics hadn't been ironed out yet (sort of how Mario was called Jumpman in the first DK, but it's still Mario's first appearance).[[Special:Contributions/76.226.130.212|76.226.130.212]] 20:41, 17 January 2014 (EST)
:Unfortunately, we don't have enough evidence to prove that the Mario clone is ''the'' biological clone (aka twin brother Luigi). Nintendo has also asserted ''multiple'' times that ''Mario Bros.'' is Luigi's first appearance as well, from trophy descriptions to Year of the Luigi itself. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:49, 17 January 2014 (EST)
:Unfortunately, we don't have enough evidence to prove that the Mario clone is ''the'' biological clone (aka twin brother Luigi). Nintendo has also asserted ''multiple'' times that ''Mario Bros.'' is Luigi's first appearance as well, from trophy descriptions to Year of the Luigi itself. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:49, 17 January 2014 (EST)
::Perhaps, if the Mario from DK & DK Jr. is Mario(the plumber)'s father, the other Mario is his father(Mario(the plumber)'s grandfather). {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 1:53, December 9, 2022 (CST)


== Adding E. Gadd to Luigi's friends ==
== Adding E. Gadd to Luigi's friends ==
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Please use or respond - SamanthaJohnson
Please use or respond - SamanthaJohnson
:*It's popular just because it's a cheesy meme.
:*It's not from the cartoons.
:*We won't use it.
:{{User:Mario/sig}} 19:49, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
::It's actually from Hotel Mario, not any of the cartoons. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:54, December 9, 2022 (CST)
==Hello==
Hello guys, i don't understand why i can't edit. In the section "Nicknames" say "Luigi is unknown", apparently somebody edited their research original, Luigi is the icon sidekick in Mario franchise... can someone fixed that, because their wiki looks poor and edited by haters, and i think in the wiki's image, Mario and Luigi are the stars, and together are one of the most famous videogames characters. Thanks. Please fix that. [[User:Jola|Jola]] ([[User talk:Jola|talk]]) 22:22, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
== Paper Mario ==
At the end of [[Paper Mario]], when the brothers go to Peach's Castle again, Luigi goes first and say it's top secret. Is that notable? [[Special:Contributions/122.189.240.166|122.189.240.166]] 03:58, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
:He was hiding the fact that he was going to lead the parade. That's not really that notable. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 04:28, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
== Luigi's Death Stare ==
I heard about Luigi staring at his victims in Mario Kart 8. If you want talk about this, feel free to edit. [[Special:Contributions/180.254.179.58|180.254.179.58]]
:First, nix the font changers. Second, we are NOT going to cover that in Mario Wiki. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:38, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
::Oops! Sorry for the formatting. I just watch a video about this meme in Youtube. [[Special:Contributions/180.254.179.58|180.254.179.58]] 23:45, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
:::Btw, why have we got coverage on "Weegee" but not the Death stare? - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 02:37, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
::::Because "Weegee" is a classic. Still, not too fond of internet memes. Personally, I think the page should stick to Mario games. {{User:Sudowoodo/sig}} 04:31, 23 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::But it is the history of LUIGI! AND, the page also covers non-game appearances. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:56, December 9, 2022 (CST)
== Problem ==
There is a white line through the first sentence, is that just my device?  {{User:Cool190/sig}}
: it is. {{user:Cool190/sig}}22:18, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
== Quote ==
I think Luigi deserves a better highlighted quote than the one posted already. What about one of his lines from ''Mario Kart 64''? How about more recent ones such as "Oh yeah, Luigi like-a that!" from ''Mario Party 7'', or even his first line in ''[[Super Maio 3D World]]'' where he ends it with "Go Green"? They sound much better than the quote from Fortune Street and Luigi has famous lines just as good as Mario's ''It's a me, Mario!'' [[User:Marino13|Marino13]] ([[User talk:Marino13|talk]]) 04:26, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
:We're not using this quote because it's "famous". We're using it because it gives some insight into Luigi's character and personality, which is probably what I should have said in the edit summary, but oh well.
:-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])
== The Number 2 Guy ==
Is it appropriate to say that Luigi is the deuteragonist of the Mario franchise, since he's considered to be number 2 to the main guy Mario? ([[User talk:Skuchi037|talk]])
::No, but deuterprotagonist is okay. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:57, December 9, 2022 (CST)
== Luigi is silent ==
Okay, guys, I am very much convinced that Luigi is overall a silent character just like Mario, and for the most part, he's only a little bit more talkative than Mario. The only games where he really speaks are the ''Mario Galaxy'' games and the first three ''Paper Mario'' games. Other than that, he just speaks like Mario: silent, gibberish, grunts and yells, or not at all. Because of this, he should have a "silent" quote just like Mario does. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 21:49, 14 December 2017 (EST)
:I don't follow that logic.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 23:14, 14 December 2017 (EST)
::What do you mean, you don't follow that logic? What logic do you follow then? Or better yet, what's wrong with ''my'' logic in the first place? I hope you answer me correctly, or else you run the risk of getting jumbled up with Dimentio again! :)  {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 00:09, 18 December 2017 (EST)
:::lolwut.....anyways, he's silent in games where everyone pantomimes everything, but he's by far the more vocal of the two. Also, you leave out the first ''Luigi's Mansion'', and even then, most games in the series have the main protagonist(s) not say all that much. He also talks in many of the older instruction manuals, especially for ''Super Mario RPG''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:19, 18 December 2017 (EST)
::::What I don't follow is why we need to have a shallow quote just because Luigi doesn't talk as much as other characters. Barely anyone talks at all in the 2D platformers, but that doesn't affect anything. Toad's quote isn't "Oh no!" The whole point of the quote to give a bit of insight into the character's personality and a shallow, generic-sounding quote doesn't do that.
:::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 00:21, 18 December 2017 (EST)
@Doc von Schmeltwick: Yeah, I know, but that's it. Other than that, he talks just like Mario. It's not that much of a gap at all. And besides, we're only counting games here, not instruction manuals. Yeah, I know, but if the character doesn't talk in the game, then he or she just doesn't talk in that game. And Black Lightning, if that is the case, then why do we have a silent quote for Mario? Is it because he doesn't have a personality at all? That's just bull right there. He does have a personality, it's just very simple and not expanded not very much. I feel like Luigi, although being more human and distinct, is just like Mario for the most part. After all, the Mario Bros ''are'' twins, after all. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 00:30, 18 December 2017 (EST)
::::Because Mario never gets deep dialog outside of supplemental material, which takes a backseat regarding what is the "main" interpretation by creators. Also, twins can (''obviosuly'') have ''extremely'' different personalities, or even amounts thereof. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:35, 18 December 2017 (EST)
:::::I am a twin, an identical twin nonetheless raised in the same house, can speak for myself that my personality is very distinct from my twin, despite also sharing some similarities. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:59, 18 December 2017 (EST)
Here's my two cents: You can't say Luigi is 100% silent (we're talking Link silent) if he talks in Paper Mario. One can say whenever you play as Luigi, he qualifies as a silent protagonist, but when you hear about his adventures in The Thousand-Year Door or hear him mumbling about furniture in the original Luigi's Mansion, or all those lines in Fortune Street, I guess, you cannot say Luigi is just one of Nintendo's silent protagonists. - [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]]([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|Talk]])
== Mario + Rabbids not on here ==
Where is the section for Mario + Rabbids? [[User:Wariopig|Wariopig]] ([[User talk:Wariopig|talk]]) 15:17, 13 January 2018 (EST)Wariopig
== Mario and Luigi  ==
On Mario’s page it mentions that his species is Homo Nintendonus. By this logic Luigi’s page should be altered to reflect their shared species as they are brother who presumably share parents.
Additionally we should change all humans in the Mario and Luigi series to H. Nitendonus (or however it is spelled in the booklet that the Mario page is referencing) as this would better reflect the canon of the Mario Brothers. [[User:Fallennorth|Fallennorth]] ([[User talk:Fallennorth|talk]]) 04:33, November 22, 2019 (EST)
:[[MarioWiki:Canonicity|Yeah, about that whole canon thing...]]
:Besides, such a reference to Mario's 'species' comes from an old character bible used by Nintendo of America specifically; it was written and used for an internal reference in 1993, and nothing has been mentioned of it since then, and I'd imagine there's at least more stuff referring to Mario as human in comparison. It makes little sense to speculate as a result, especially with such a rarely used and outdated source. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 04:40, November 22, 2019 (EST)
::Indeed, that source wasn’t from Nintendo in Japan, and Nintendo of America itself didn’t use its content at all to create bios and the like, ignoring it if it creates inconsistencies would be fine actually.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:20, November 22, 2019 (EST)
== Only Appearance ==
The part that says that Hotel Mario was Luigi's only appearance on the CD-I should be changed because Hotel Mario was the only Mario game to be released for the system. Mario Takes America & Super Mario's Wacky Worlds were both cancelled. [[User:I&#39;manumber1|I&#39;manumber1]] ([[User talk:I&#39;manumber1|talk]]) 17:40, February 6, 2022 (EST)
== This is probably just a joke but... ==
In this issue of Nintendo Power it says Luigi was "too busy tinkering on his kart" to appear in Mario 64. It's probably just a joke but maybe we could add it? https://preview.redd.it/bqlpxw2ju0e51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=aa3efabe7f89e5498806cec483189fe7827e0e28 [[User:I&#39;manumber1|I&#39;manumber1]] ([[User talk:I&#39;manumber1|talk]]) 15:42, February 9, 2022 (EST)
(Golddude64) Wasn’t he in Mario kart 64?
:Super Mario 64, not Mario Kart 64. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:52, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
== Could someone please add this to the Trivia section about Luigi’s name being the Italian form of Ludwig? Since well there is a Koopaling with the name Ludwig ==
It’s true I found this out not to long ago here’s the source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_(name)) I just want someone to add this line (Coincidentally Luigi’s name is the Italian form of the name Ludwig meaning technically speaking Luigi and Ludwig share the same name) I have already added this to Ludwig Von Koopa’s article and I would do the same here but of course I cannot do that myself.  {{User|35.137.237.68}}
:It's just a coincidence as you said, and not notable enough to include on the article. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:26, September 30, 2022 (EDT)
== Grammatical error in [[Luigi#Family_BASIC|Family BASIC]] ==
"While Luigi is not included as one the usable sprites" should be "While Luigi is not included as one '''of''' the usable sprites". [[Special:Contributions/93.115.28.181|93.115.28.181]] 18:41, November 12, 2022 (EST)
:Thank you. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:39, May 08, 2023 (CST)
== Appearences by Date ==
I would be nice to give Luigi a "List of appearences by date" section like his brother. {{unsigned|Wonderman23}}
== No Appearances List? ==
Why doesn't [[Luigi]] have an appearances list yet? I mean, [[Mario]], [[Bowser]], [[Princess Peach]], [[Princess Daisy]], [[Wario]], [[Waluigi]], [[Toad]], [[Yoshi]] and [[Birdo]] all have one, why doesn't Luigi?
I say we should start making one! {{User:BeefRocket/sig}}
:Then go ahead. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 12:22, March 26, 2024 (EDT)
== HUGE image... ==
So I tried putting Luigi's artwork from ''[[Super Mario Party Jamboree]]'' in place of his ''[[Mario Party Superstars]]'' artwork, and the image is so big that the article can't even show a quarter of it in one screen. Is there any way I can fix this?
Edit: I fixed it by adding "|250px" at the end of the file name.
[[User:Its-A-Me-Austin|Its-A-Me-Austin]] ([[User talk:Its-A-Me-Austin|talk]]) 18:27, September 12, 2024 (EDT)
==Split {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} from [[Luigi]]==
{{TPP}}
This split was brought up more than a decade ago in [[Talk:Luigi#Split a SMG Luigi into a new article|this proposal]] but the proposer failed to clarify what he meant and it was misinterpreted by those who opposed it. When playing as [[Luigi]] in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', the NPC Luigi that you'd normally rescue when playing as [[Mario]] still shows up and has completely different dialogue when speaking to the playable Luigi. [[Rosalina]] refers to the NPC Luigi as the playable Luigi's "twin". This would mean the inverse would be true as well; The playable Luigi is the NPC Luigi's twin. For those who opposed in the past proposal on this topic, this proposal would <span style="color:red">'''not'''</span> be splitting every appearance of Luigi into different articles, it would <span style="color:red">'''only'''</span> be splitting the Luigi who '''quite literally''' appears in the same room as the playable Luigi. The playable and NPC Luigi have different heights and one is silent and is more brave and courageous whereas the other is more cautious and has a lot to say. Regarding which Luigi to split into the {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}} article, we could split either into the article since there is not confirmation on which is the real Luigi and which is the impostor. However, I would consider the playable Luigi to be the "twin" since the NPC Luigi's actions are much more accurate to Luigi's character and we see Luigi show up in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'' as an NPC before said NPC is later unlocked as a playable character.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Pizza Master}}<br>
'''Deadline''': October 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
===Support (Split playable Luigi from "''[[Super Luigi Galaxy]]''" campaign as {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}})===
#{{User|Pizza Master}} Per my proposal.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per proposal.
===Support (Split NPC Luigi as {{fake link|Luigi's Twin}})===
#{{User|Pizza Master}} Secondary choice.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} This makes more sense to us, personally. The idea seems to be that the NPC Luigi is the "Twin", while the Luigi you play as is just Luigi. The memetic pop-up ''does'' say "You can now play as Luigi", after all, not "You can now play as Luigi's Twin" or anything like that. If we have to give this weird phenomenon an article (and to be honest here, we think it has some merit covering this weirdness in its own article), this feels like the simpler--and probably more logical--split to make.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Secondary choice, per all.
===Oppose===
#{{User|Nintendo101}} This proposal misapplies a narrative framing device in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' made by the developers to justify the inclusion of a playable Luigi - a decision made when the game was nearly completed, with the original intent being that the NPC Luigi would be the only Luigi - to suggest one of these Luigis is a discrete character from the other. This is not the case. It is not supported in the game's script or its paratext (guidebook, booklet, interview, encyclopedia, official websites, etc.), and does not consider the fact that there have been multiple iterations of the same character on screen throughout the franchise's history — from ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. (game)|Donkey Kong Jr.]]'' to the [[ScareScraper]] mode in ''[[Luigi's Mansion 3]]''. Both playable and non-playable iterations of Luigi in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' are the same character, and neither should receive a dedicated article from the other.
#{{User|Hewer}} From what I can gather, the game treats them both as Luigi and is very vague about the matter, to the point that any split would feel speculative (the whole last sentence of this proposal is pure speculation, which isn't a good sign). It's possible to have more than one of the same character; the logic of "there's two of them so they must be separate characters" (also used for the former "Boom Boom species" split) shouldn't be applied to a franchise like this one that often doesn't bother trying to make narrative sense, hence the "[[MarioWiki:Good writing#Reading between the lines|don't read between the lines]]" rule. Also note that both of the other cases brought up in the original proposal, Boom Boom and Pink Donkey Kong Jr., have since been merged (the latter being especially notable given the "Junior (II)" distinction in the manual, comparable to the "twin" thing).
#{{User|Nightwicked Bowser}} Per all
#{{User|Arend}} This is practically Pink DK Jr. all over again, except that Luigi's twin is colored the same as well. Per all.
#{{User|Sdman213}} Per all.
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per all.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all, and especially per what they did to my beloved Pink Donkey Kong Jr.
#{{User|Sparks}} Per all.
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Would we even know which one is the "main" Luigi? It's speculative from that especially. (Granted, this makes me want to re-examine the ''Paper Jam'' situation...)
#{{User|Shy Guy on Wheels}} Per all. I really don't see this as any different from multiple people being able to play as Luigi in Mario Kart or Smash. The Pink Donkey Kong Jr. comparison is very apt as well.
#{{User|Jdtendo}} They are two incarnations of Luigi, and we cannot know for sure which one is the twin. <small>By the way, there is already a page about [[Mario|Luigi's twin]].</small>
#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} See Dr. Mario.
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per Nintendo101 and Hewer <small>by the way, there is already a page about [[Palette swap|pink donkey kong jr.]].</small>
#{{User|Mario}} Luigi's twin is me, Mario!!! Per all!!!
#{{User|YoYo}} See it like this, if I was playing Mario Kart as Bowser, and I encounter another Bowser, does that suddenly mean we should create a page for both Bowsers? It's the same character it's just two instances of them, arguably "Super Luigi Galaxy" isn't "canon".
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per all.
===Comments===
Camwoodstock's argument makes sense as a (mostly) non-speculative way to split the two Luigis. Also, the NPC Luigi is actually referred to by something other than simply Luigi ("your twin" by [[Rosalina]]) that would imply that the two characters are different people unlike with "Pink Donkey Kong Jr./Jr (II)" where the Pink one is just implied to be the P2 version of [[DKJR]]. Also, the playable [[Luigi]] races against [[Cosmic Luigi]] and functions almost identically to [[Mario]] whereas the NPC Luigi does their own thing and finds hidden stars that the player can't find. NPC Luigi (or Luigi's twin) in this argument functions more as a mechanic of the game than the actual Luigi and therefore should be documented as a minor mechanic (that is also a character) of ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' akin to the [[Co-Star Luma]] or [[Ally|Allies]] of the [[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]] series.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 16:53, September 29, 2024 (EDT)
:Any speculation should ideally be avoided, big or small. And Luigi's roles (and degree of similarity to Mario) vary often between games. Luigi being an NPC side character is hardly unheard of (Super Mario Odyssey, Mario RPG, most Paper Mario games, etc.). {{User:Hewer/sig}} 17:02, September 29, 2024 (EDT)
::At least in our vote's case, we would appreciate a split for the Luigi NPC that happens to also be there if you, yourself, are playing as Luigi; since Rosalina claims it's his twin, and that seems to be about as official explanation as we're about to get. We do admit that this is a comically niche article, but we still think it has more merit than Junior (II), who was quite literally just a palette swap that received zero acknowledgement as being unique outside the manual. In contrast, the "duplicate" NPC Luigi being described as the playable Luigi's twin ''is'' given a direct comment. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 03:25, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
:::{{@|Camwoodstock}} I personally do not think there should be any split because I think it misrepresents ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' and Luigi's roles in the game. However, if anything, the NPC is the one designed to be the only Luigi in the game and has his traditional proportions. The playable one was a late addition to the title, and has the same model as Mario to make it easier to include. All they did was replace his head with the NPC Luigi's. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 18:44, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
{{@|Camwoodstock|Hewer|FanOfYoshi|Nintendo101|Nightwicked Bowser|Arend|Sdman213|SolemnStormcloud|ThePowerPlayer|Sparks|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Ok, if we don't do this, what about converting the ''[[Super Luigi Galaxy]]'' redirect into an actual article that goes over all the differences in Luigi's "campaign" like visual changes, dialogue changes, text changes, gameplay, and mission changes, etc.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 22:46, September 29, 2024 (EDT)
:That would be like treating it as a re-release or DLC which it isn't, it's just playing through the exact same game again with a different character and dialogue and level name changes to accomodate it (mostly just changing "Mario" to "Luigi"). The Cosmic Clones' behavior in the races is the only real difference. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 07:54, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
: Should we split the playable Dr. Mario from Super Smash Bros as a separate character from his regular page then? After all, he's clearly a separate character from Mario. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:48, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
::...[[Dr. Mario]] ''is'' its own page. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:53, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
:{{@|Pizza Master}} modes typically do no receive dedicated articles, and I also do not think this one would really benefit from having one. Very little changes when the player takes control of Luigi. It is not a fundamentally different campaign, unlike things like [[Bowser's Fury]] or ''[[New Super Luigi U]]''. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 18:44, September 30, 2024 (EDT)
I see. --{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 19:10, September 30, 2024 (EDT)

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