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==Tattle Log / Catch Card order in the ''Paper Mario'' series== | ==Tattle Log / Catch Card order in the ''Paper Mario'' series== | ||
Generally, parent species appear first while variants appear later, with few exceptions. ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door bestiary|Tattle Log]] and ''Super Paper Mario''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[List of Catch Cards|Catch Cards]] are both structured as follows: the basic version of a given enemy is listed first, followed by derivatives (in overall order of appearance in the former and directness in the latter), and bosses like Big Blooper are usually separate at the end (with some exceptions like Gold Fuzzy). According to the lists, however, some parent species were technically introduced in a later game than their derivatives. This includes Dull Bones (which is already implied by the name of [[Dry Bowser#Names in other languages|Dry Bowser]] in Japanese and certain languages, and despite the fact that it would look identical to Dry Bones, it was Dull Bones that received a [[Dark Dull Bones|Flopside Pit of 100 Trials counterpart]]), Dark Puff, Ember, Bald Cleft, and Dark Wizzerd. It also implies that "[[Pale Piranha]]" should be the basic form of Piranha Plant (considered a mere color variant in some languages), with the game's "[[Piranha Plant (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)|Piranha Plant]]" as a derivative (as the name and guidance in certain languages would suggest). Should we adhere to this order? Note that this doesn't always match internal order, and some like Ember would probably have been reversed if it appeared at a later point in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' (like it did in the original ''Paper Mario''). I do think that we should consider at least going by the order further supported by ''Super Paper Mario'', which only includes Dull Bones and Bald Cleft. Or is it safer to continue to consider these weaker versions as derivatives that happen to appear earlier in those games, which mostly aligns with their filenames (with notable exceptions like Pale Piranha and Moon Cleft)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:25, March 15, 2020 (EDT) | Generally, parent species appear first while variants appear later, with few exceptions. ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door bestiary|Tattle Log]] and ''Super Paper Mario''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[List of Catch Cards|Catch Cards]] are both structured as follows: the basic version of a given enemy is listed first, followed by derivatives (in overall order of appearance in the former and directness in the latter), and bosses like Big Blooper are usually separate at the end (with some exceptions like Gold Fuzzy). According to the lists, however, some parent species were technically introduced in a later game than their derivatives. This includes Dull Bones (which is already implied by the name of [[Dry Bowser#Names in other languages|Dry Bowser]] in Japanese and certain languages, and despite the fact that it would look identical to Dry Bones, it was Dull Bones that received a [[Dark Dull Bones|Flopside Pit of 100 Trials counterpart]]), Dark Puff, Ember, Bald Cleft, and Dark Wizzerd. It also implies that "[[Pale Piranha]]" should be the basic form of Piranha Plant (considered a mere color variant in some languages), with the game's "[[Piranha Plant (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)|Piranha Plant]]" as a derivative (as the name and guidance in certain languages would suggest). Should we adhere to this order? Note that this doesn't always match internal order, and some like Ember would probably have been reversed if it appeared at a later point in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' (like it did in the original ''Paper Mario''). I do think that we should consider at least going by the order further supported by ''Super Paper Mario'', which only includes Dull Bones and Bald Cleft. Or is it safer to continue to consider these weaker versions as derivatives that happen to appear earlier in those games, which mostly aligns with their filenames (with notable exceptions like Pale Piranha and Moon Cleft)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:25, March 15, 2020 (EDT) | ||
