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==Poison Mushroom==
Should we add the [[Poison Mushroom]] ? It's an item that gives another transformation to Mario, but it's more like a "power-down"... {{User:Banon/sig}} 15:42, 25 December 2012 (EST)

:No, poison mushrooms are closer to enemies than power-ups.--[[File:NSMBWIIEJr.png|35px|link=Bowser Junior]] [[User:BowserJunior|Bowser]][[User Talk:BowserJunior|Junior]] [http://youtube.com/watch?v=smfAA6NN5Cs RULES!] 19:15, 1 January 2013 (EST)

They aren't power ups at all; closer to general items.

{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 09:09, 5 January 2013 (EST)

== Rainbow ==

The "title" for every list is in a different color in order to make a "rainbow". Should we let that rainbow or write every title in the same color ? I prefer asking before editing the article if I shouldn't have done so. {{User:Banon/sig}} 15:12, 6 April 2013 (EDT)

:The rainbow is just there for decoration... but it doesn't look professional so I support making it a standard color.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 23:41, 10 April 2013 (EDT)
::Honestly, I'd like it to be standard, but not because it doesn't look "professional", but the rainbow text can be pretty distracting and kind of pointless. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 01:22, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
Ok, so what color do we choose? Red, green, blue? :p {{User:Banon/sig}} 13:23, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
:I'd say the standard black. There's no need to differentiate the titles by color.
:{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 21:11, 11 April 2013 (EDT)


== Gold Flower ==

How does it transform an enemy to a coin? I used it before and it only made the Koopa Troopa in it's shell fall off. --{{User:A Paragoomba and the Koopa Bros./sig}} 05:44, 25 April 2013 (EDT)
:Also, it only gives you 5 coins for any enemy struck with it. --{{User:A Paragoomba and the Koopa Bros./sig}} 05:46, 25 April 2013 (EDT)
::You must kill more enemies with the same golden fireball or with the same chain of jump. If you do so, the reward increases until 50 Coins per enemy. {{User|Tsunami}}

== DK64 ==

Do the potions that Cranky Kong gives out count as power-ups? If they do they should probably be included on this page. {{User|Yoshi876}}
:Yes, technically, but what about the other games, including the Wario and Yoshi ones? Those clearly have power-ups, so those need to be mentioned here, too. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 00:04, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
::At this purpose there are two possibilities:
:#Making other sections for power-ups of other series;
:#Rename this page "List of power-ups in the Mario series, so doing the same for other series.
::I think that is better the first option... {{User|Tsunami}}



== CTTT ==

Should we add Glowing Mushroom?
--[[User:Scottsc|Scottsc]] ([[User talk:Scottsc|talk]]) 19:27, 13 October 2014 (EDT)



== SMW ==
Are Yoshi's Wings a power up?
--[[User:Scottsc|Scottsc]] ([[User talk:Scottsc|talk]]) 19:29, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

== smm-only powers ==

Add spiny hat and buzzy beetle hat.--[[Special:Contributions/46.130.128.26|46.130.128.26]] 12:04, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
:Added. We don't have images or information on these items just about yet. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:26, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

== Returning Power-Ups ==

Currently, the list does not include returning power-ups for games. Should this be changed? For one thing, not all powerups return in all games (hell, not a single item on this page appears in every game on the list). For a second, power-ups often change effect between games (such as the Ice Flower from Mario Galaxy being a complete outlier in terms of effect when compared to Ice Flowers in other games; and more limited changes such as the leaf in SM3D Land making you look like Tanooki Mario, but not fly or turn into a statue - only fall slower like Bunny Mario). And for a third, even when they don't change function, they can radically change visual - the Super Mushroom's design on this page was only used in SMB and cosmetic homages thereto (like Mario Maker's SMB style). 

In addition, there's other inconsistencies like the SMB3 images being of the All-Stars version, while the SMB ones are of the NES version. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 21:58, 8 December 2015 (EST)
:Good point...you're probably right, but the Mushroom appears in [essentially] every Mario game there is. {{User:Roy Koopa/sig}} 22:00, 8 December 2015 (EST)
::Not in most of the 3D games, starting in SM64. And while ''mushrooms'' of other types appear in the Paper Mario games, the Super Mushroom - double sizes you indefinitely - doesn't. (Just for starters) - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 22:03, 8 December 2015 (EST)
:::Typically, "Mushroom" refers to the usual Mushroom from Super Mario Bros., and also you may notice I said "essentially." SM64 doesn't have them, but that's it for the most part. {{User:Roy Koopa/sig}} 22:05, 8 December 2015 (EST)

:::First, note that [[Mushroom]] (HP recovery) is a different article from [[Super Mushroom]] (double-size, as in SMB onward):
:::Secondly:
:::*Super Mario 64: Absent
:::*Super Mario Sunshine: Absent
:::*Super Mario Galaxy: Absent
:::*Super Mario Galaxy 2: Absent
:::And the RPG games have Mushrooms that recover HP, rather than double-size/etc you. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 22:15, 8 December 2015 (EST)

== Rearrange this page according to power-up, not debut game ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|rearrange}}
As I said above, currently this page treats power-ups as accumulative - as if they appear in ''every'' game past their debut, as opposed to every game having a different lineup - and ignores that the design of a power-up in their original game often differs from the design that becomes the default later on. Rather than listing Super Mushrooms and suchlike umpteen times, how about we just go with alphabetising (the "Images" column would not show ''every'' sprite, just the major design changes. Maximum of five, but I don't think any power-ups actually have that many major changes). Columns to look something like this:
{| style="text-align: center; width: 100%; margin: 0 auto; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
|-style="background: #ABC"
!width="1%"|Item
!width="1%"|Image(s)
!width="1%"|Game(s)
!width="1%"|Effect
|-
|[[Super Mushroom]]
|[[File:SMB Supermushroom.png|48px]] [[File:Mushroomsmb3.png|48px]] [[File:MushroomSMW.PNG|48px]] [[File:Mushroom2.PNG|48px]]
|''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels|SMB: The Lost Levels]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3|SMB3]]'', ''[[Super Mario World]]'', ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.|NSMB Wii]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.|NSMB2]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.|NSMBU]]'', ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'', ''[[Super Mario Maker]]''
|Turns [[Small Mario]] into [[Super Mario]], allowing him to withstand damage, break [[Brick Block]]s, and find other power-ups.
|}
Thoughts?

'''Proposer:''' [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) <br>
'''Deadline:''' December 26, 2015, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|Reboot}} Per myself. 
#{{User|Roy Koopa}} He does present a valid point: Mushrooms have appeared in more than one game.
#{{User|Sonic98}} Per Reboot.
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
#{{User|Chocolate Mario}} This makes it easier for readers to check which games a certain power-up is in. One image per power-up is enough for me, however.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Per. Not a fan of the current format.
#{{User|Andymii}} Per all.

===Oppose===

===Comments===
The choice of images seems strange to me. I think we should just keep it to latest game appearance as in its infobox in its respective article and the [[Mario (series)]] page. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:29, 12 December 2015 (EST)
:I'm not dogmatic about that, if everyone else disagrees. I'm more fussed about the only visual representation of the likes of the Super Mushroom being their unrepresentative early sprites. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:16, 15 December 2015 (EST)

While the proposed change would be great for the given example, including any other item that has been in several games, it does nothing for the items in few games. I'm not seeing the benefit. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 17:37, 13 December 2015 (EST)
:The previous format lists a particular power-up only once, omitting recurring power-ups. This isn't helpful since you don't know if a game has a particular power-up or not (''Super Mario 64 DS'' has the Mushroom; ''Super Mario 64'' doesn't, but it's not immediately apparent) so the organization in this page is not very good. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:13, 13 December 2015 (EST)

I feel like the most optimal choice is to list the same power-up more than once. If a power-up appears in a game, list it under that game's header, and display a picture of how the power-up looks in that game. That way we get complete coverage of how the power-ups look like whilst not having to suffer from arbitrary choices, plus where power-ups appear is made more clear. What does everyone else think about this? {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 02:58, 15 December 2015 (EST)
:I think it would be more useful to list power-ups by type because this article is focused on just that (my first impressions when I view an article like this). Also, a few power-ups recur frequently, so I think that would get repetitive quickly although if it doesn't take a whole lot of space of repeats, then it might be feasible. I like the idea of different images though, but I'm not keen on the repeats. If you want to look up a particular game style, then would visiting the game pages be too inconvenient? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:10, 15 December 2015 (EST)

:Simply listing per game was my first thought (see [[#Returning Power-Ups]] above), but the more I thought about it the more it seemed doing so would just bloat the page.
:Plus "list of power-ups", not {{fakelink|List of power-ups by game}}. That implies the power-ups are the main thing to sort by. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 22:57, 15 December 2015 (EST)

== Can we please have some actual order to this page ==

Basically, this page appears to be sorted alphabetically.  I do not like that because I think it makes the page look extremely messy and I think that there are much neater ways they could be ordered.  It's really annoying to search for a powerup in the table in the kind of shuffled mess they are in created by alphabetical order.  {{User:3D Player 2010/sig}} 16:56, 16 April 2016 (EDT)