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:I have similar concerns. While the page itself has been reordered since this question was asked, the current organization is still not intuitive (for instance, the Barcode Battler II is labeled a home console, which it is certainly not, and water toys are given the same weight as handheld consoles). And looking at the page's history the total overhaul seems to have been done unilaterally by a single editor without any prior discussion, but forgive me if I'm mistaken on that end. [[User:AZealousIndividual|AZealousIndividual]] ([[User talk:AZealousIndividual|talk]]) 23:52, August 6, 2023 (EDT)
:I have similar concerns. While the page itself has been reordered since this question was asked, the current organization is still not intuitive (for instance, the Barcode Battler II is labeled a home console, which it is certainly not, and water toys are given the same weight as handheld consoles). And looking at the page's history the total overhaul seems to have been done unilaterally by a single editor without any prior discussion, but forgive me if I'm mistaken on that end. [[User:AZealousIndividual|AZealousIndividual]] ([[User talk:AZealousIndividual|talk]]) 23:52, August 6, 2023 (EDT)
::Given there seems to still be kind of a back-and-forth of edits targeting this page's layout I take it there isn't a consensus on what it should be? I'm new to the wiki so I'm not sure where to check that sort of thing or how these sorts of problems are typically resolved. >< [[User:AZealousIndividual|AZealousIndividual]] ([[User talk:AZealousIndividual|talk]]) 10:59, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
::Given there seems to still be kind of a back-and-forth of edits targeting this page's layout I take it there isn't a consensus on what it should be? I'm new to the wiki so I'm not sure where to check that sort of thing or how these sorts of problems are typically resolved. >< [[User:AZealousIndividual|AZealousIndividual]] ([[User talk:AZealousIndividual|talk]]) 10:59, August 19, 2023 (EDT)
== Expand the e-Reader section ==
Acording to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_%26_Watch_ports_and_remakes| this Wikipedia page], there is another Game & Watch called "Game & Watch-e", so we should add to the [[e-Reader]] section?
[[User:Perfection|Perfection]] ([[User talk:Perfection|talk]]) 09:30, 27/01/2024 (UTC)
:The Game & Watch-e is a canceled game, and it's in the [[List_of_unreleased_media#Game_.26_Watch-e|list of canceled games]]. {{User:Pinwin/sig}} 18:37, July 13, 2024 (CET)
== Change the date scheme and resort by chronology ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|1-5|no change}}
The "YYYY / MM / DD" and "YYYY / MM" readings literally make no sense to me. However, the good news is, I was wondering if there's a possibility to use the "<month> <day>, <year>" and "<month> <year>" readings and improve their sorting using <code><nowiki>{{sort|YYYY / MM / DD|<month> <day>, <year>}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{sort|YYYY / MM|<month> <year>}}</nowiki></code> respectively.
'''Proposer''': {{User|GuntherBB}}<br>
'''Deadline''': February 24, 2024, 23:59 GMT
===Support===
#{{User|GuntherBB}} Per proposal
===Oppose===
#{{User|MegaBowser64}} The current arrangement is more precise for chronological order. For instance, you could easily find all games from 2014 because the year comes first. Otherwise, you would just be looking at random, unrelated numbers (month and day) first, having to sort through the numbers to find the year. This setup is more practical for casual reading.
#{{User|Jdtendo}} The MM/DD/YYYY date format is basically only used in Northern America, and is very confusing to more or less the rest of the world because the DD/MM/YYYY format is much more widespread, including in English-speaking countries such as UK and Australia. A non Northern American person who would read that ''Paper Mario'' was released on 08/11/2000 in Japan may misinterpret the date as "8th of November, 2000" instead of "August 11, 2000". The YYYY/MM/DD format that is currently used in the article does not have this ambiguity and is commonly accepted as an international standard.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per Jdtendo especially--while MM/DD/YYYY is the standard in American English (which is what the wiki uses for the most part), it is absolutely ''not'' the global standard; and in this case, we don't see any harm in specifically using the global standard over the American English standard. It doesn't take that much effort to understand if you're accustomed to the American English way, whereas anyone who doesn't will already have zero problems understanding the dates.
#{{User|YoYo}} when asking about when games release, the year is the most important part: its literally the thing people will be asking about the most. and as for the "standard" replacement of MM/DD/YYYY, that's used far less than the most common format: DD/MM/YYYY. That, however, is irrelevant. what is relevant is the fact that the year is the most crucial information. so keep it as it is.
#{{User|LadySophie17}} YYYY/MM/DD is standard for ordering things chronologically. Also I am morally obligated to oppose MM/DD/YYYY.
===Comments===
This is a little silly, but the proposal's name seems kind of like a misnomer to us? "Broadening the scope" of List of Games, to us, sounds like an attempt to re-define what counts as a game so as to include more things on it--y'know, ''broadening'' the definition of a Game so the List has more things in it... Except, this proposal is about changing the date scheme used, and we already gladly include stuff like [[Mario Calculator]] on this list anyways. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 13:46, February 16, 2024 (EST)
Might be worth revisiting an [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/35#Impose_a_standard_for_dates old proposal I did concerning formatting for month, day, year.] The votes here are contradicting with this proposal. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:58, February 16, 2024 (EST)
: Y'know? Now that you bring it up, that might be good just so we don't have two different standards--one only used on a very commonly visited article, while another is used ''literally everywhere else''. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 18:47, February 16, 2024 (EST)
::Personally, I would be fine with formatting the date as "Aug 11, 2000" which is legible enough and non-ambiguous, but "08/11/2000" in numeric-only form would be harmful as I explained in my vote. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 01:47, February 17, 2024 (EST)
== A couple Flash games ==
Ok, so there's a couple flash games I saw that don't seem to have pages. The first one is called "Crafty Collage Maker", in which you make a scene using a bunch of different cardboard-esque sprites from the game (Yoshi's Crafted World). The second and third are the Mcdonalds flash games, known as "Mario's Driving Range" and "Jammin' with Mario". Not much is known about these, but they were licensed by Nintendo. The fourth is "WarioWare Advergame". (at least, that's the title of the page on Flashpoint). It's a mini collection of microgames. The fifth is "WarioWare Touched!: Find Wario and Friends". This is a Where's Waldo-esque game where you have to click on different characters from the Wario franchise. That's it. [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 13:39, July 22, 2024 (EDT)
:The ''[[Crafty Collage Maker]]'' has a page. We don't know anything about ''Mario's Driving Range'' and ''Jammin' with Mario'', all we can do is write an empty page [[New Super Mario Bros. 1-Up Hunt!|like this]]. ''WarioWare Advergame'' doesn't have a page, but it is fully achieved and playable. {{User:Pinwin/sig}} 20:17, September 12, 2024 (CET)
== A couple more flash games ==
Ok, There's a few more.  The first one is called "Read the Unfinished Donkey Kong Country Story and Finish the Adventure!". You read the first 6 frames of a Donkey Kong Country story and then drag and drop pictures to finish the story. second is "Lego Super Mario Find The Pairs". It's a Lego Mario-themed matching game. [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 13:40, July 22, 2024 (EDT)
:''Lego Super Mario Find The Pairs'' isn't a flash game, it is coded on HTML 5 and was published on official Lego website. {{User:Pinwin/sig}} 20:25, September 12, 2024 (CET)
== FamicomBox and Super FamicomBox  ==
Should these systems and games have pages? these systems were used in stores and hotels in Japan, and featured a few Mario games (FamicomBox: Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros., Golf, Wrecking Crew, and Punch-Out!! Super FamicomBox: Super Mario Kart, Super Mario Collection, Super Donkey Kong). While these are basically ports of the aforementioned games, there was a slight(?) difference. The games released for the system were either a) demos or b) pay-to-play games, depending on the system. [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 15:39, July 22, 2024 (EDT)
== Some HTML, Flash, and Shockwave games ==
Hi!
I found a couple HTML5 and Adobe Shockwave games that do not have pages (plus an Adobe Flash game).
First, Which Mushroom Kingdom Character Would Be Your BFF (Not to be confused with the Play Nintendo game known as Who's Your Mushroom Kingdom BFF)? This is a HTML game that was on the Disney Now app.
Second, Lego Super Mario Find The Pairs. I am adding this in here again as I put it in with the Flash games last time, when it is actually an HTML game.
Third, Donkey Kong Country Family Portrait/Create-n-Send a Donkey Kong Country Family Portrait. You take various DKC characters and place them onto one of three backgrounds, and then you can send the resulting image to a friend. There is a article on TCRF for more info: https://tcrf.net/Create-n-Send_a_Donkey_Kong_Country_Family_Portrait (This was Adobe Flash).
Fourth, Welcome to Nintendo World! This was for Nintendo's 1998 Company Report. You can click around through both the "Future" and "Nintendo Museum" sections, which bring up a submenu where you can pick from a list of either future or past Nintendo games. Clicking on one brings up a video of the corresponding game, along with some text. This was an Adobe Shockwave game.
Fifth, Paint Boy. This was an Adobe Shockwave game where you can choose from a few different "screens" for a Game Boy Color (some of these feature Mario characters), and then paint the Game Boy Color.
Sixth, NintendoVIP Star Catalog Home Live Wallpaper. This Flash game allows you to click around through a hotel area. The main room features a cardboard-looking statue of Donkey Kong, and the corridor features a Paper Mario-esque Toad eating wallpaper(?).
Seventh, My Mario Timeline. This was a U.K. Exclusive HTML game that allowed you to input your date of birth. The program would then show how old you were when various mainline Mario games were released.
Lastly, ファミコン 全国一斉クイズ 練習 (or Famicom Zenkoku Issei Quiz Renshuu). This is an HTML game that takes the form of a quiz about various Famicom games. There is a 30 second time limit per question.
[[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 10:51, September 16, 2024 (EDT) Nelsonic

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