Editing Talk:List of characters

===Characters or Enemies===
Should we try to move generic enemies from the characters section to the enemies or species section? Generic baddies are not really characters. --[[User:Son of Suns|son.of.suns@gmail.com]] 14:40, 29 April 2006 (EDT)


===Naming===

There should be two links for characters with a popular name and proper name 

*Bowser - King Bowser 
*Big Bob-omb - King Bob-omb 
*Daisy - Princess Daisy 

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I follow your logic, but this opens a can of worms. To wit: 
                                
*Mario 
*Racoon Mario 
*Caped Mario 
*Fire Mario 
*Frog Mario 
*Hammer Bro Mario 
*Space Mario 
...etc. 

As a side note, I almost missed this post. Please add comments or ideas about the Character page to the Talk:Characters page. 

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anyone looking for mario would not look up racoon mario. however somone looking for bowser could easily miss king bowser. P.S. racoon mario is a character varition not another word for mario. i think there should be a page with all the character variations.

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You have a point. Tell you what, let's replace King Bowser with just Bowser (seeing as that is the name most people will look for).

As for character variations, how about we add those to the character page itself.

IE: Bowser's character page, then a subsections that look something like this:

'''Aliases'''
*King Bowser
*King Koopa

'''Character Variations'''
*[[Baby Bowser]]

Sound good?

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It Sounds Great

===Character Information===

I think that each character's description should have a list of all the games they have appeared in at the bottom, sort of like:
<br>'''Main Appearances'''
<br>(Games that they have actually been in)
<br>'''Cameos'''
<br>(Games that they are shown in, but just for fun, such as Super Smash Bros. Melee's trophies)

Also, does anyone else think that character descriptions from game manuals could be added when possible?
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 Should we try to move generic enemies from the characters section to the enemies or species section? Generic baddies are not really characters. --[[User:Son of Suns|son.of.suns@gmail.com]] 14:40, 29 April 2006 (EDT)
-:I agree. But besides enemies, there are some non-enemy generic species on the list too (such as the Pianta).
-:<small>[[User:Dodoman|Dodoman]]</small>
 ===Naming===
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 Also, does anyone else think that character descriptions from game manuals could be added when possible?
-== Wario Characters? ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|6-0-3-0|add wario and ssb characters}}
-With his major update, RAP did also remove the Wario Characters (expect of [[Rudy the Clown]]) and many of the Super Smash Bros. Characters. Does that mean that they should also get their own list articles? As regards to the Wario Characters, I already created a list for them (not complete, but at least for the characters who already have an article), which I could just upload. What do you recommend? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:23, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
-:Because nobody answered, I start a vote --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:24, 23 June 2007 (EDT) :
-==== Support: Wario Characters in this list ====
-#{{User:Wayoshi/sig}} &ndash; no need for another list of characters.
-#{{User:Xzelion/Signature}}
-#{{User:YellowYoshi398/sig}}
-#{{User:Cobold/sig}}
-#[[User:Pixl Power|Pixl Power]]
-#[[User:BowserTime]]
-==== Support: Wario Characters in a separate list ====
-==== Support: Smash. Bros Characters in this list ====
-# {{User:Cobold/sig}} - A separate list is already existing [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|here]]. Maybe a list for [[:Category: Crossover Games|crossover]] characters in general...
-#{{User:Great Gonzo/sig|Cobold speaks the truth}}
-#{{User:YellowYoshi398/sig}}
-==== Support: Smash. Bros Characters in a separate list ====
-==== Comments ====
-Okay, but could you also vote for one of the two Wario options? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:36, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
-:Thanks, the poll is clear, so I readded the characters. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 12:28, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
-== Bowser Bones... ==
-Does anyone think we should make a seperate article for Bowser Bones? I mean, he's the same person as Bowser, but then again, Mario doesn't share an article with Raccoon Mario or Mega Mario, right?
-<small>[[User:Dodoman|Dodo]]</small>
-The name of "Bowser Bones" is relly Dry Bowser like Dry Bones. That is if you are talking about the boss from NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. in world 8 casle ( not the big bowser casle, but the regulre one )
-We used to have an article on it, though it was redirected or something. -- [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]
-We used to have a separate one, but {{User|Son of Suns}} merged it.{{User:Knife/sig}} 22:33, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
-There should be another separate article for Bowser Bones, because he & Bowser have completely different aspects & abilities. take New Super Mario Bros. for example, sending Bowser into the lava after the battle in the final castle in the first world, He gains two abilities by becoming Bowser Bones: He can now throw bones & can jump higher. -- [[User:Mario Finale|Mario Finale]]
-:You're a little late. :) We split them in light of ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'', I believe. Check out [[Dry Bowser]]. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 00:31, 12 December 2008 (EST)
-== Characters v. Mario Characters ==
-Just a quick question: am I the only person who looked at this article as a listing of all characters?  I'm worried about new users who might not know that the article is really only about Mario and Yoshi characters, not DK ones. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 11:20, 29 February 2008 (EST)
-:Not be forgotten that it also covers the Wario characters. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 12:10, 29 February 2008 (EST)
-::That makes it even more confusing. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 20:10, 29 February 2008 (EST)
-:":Wait wait wait, this page says a list of "Mario" characters, however, it has other characters such as Link or Fox. They have NO relation to Mario, unless you count the SSB series. So why are they conisdered "Mario" characters? {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}}
-::Exactly - it's a mess.  Of course people are going to be confused and put characters from other series in here because they don't know that characters suddenly means Mario characters. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 13:53, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
-:::I'd actually also prefer to have all characters in one list rather than separating the ''Donkey Kong'' characters. Several ''Donkey Kong'' characters have appeared in ''Mario'' games (I don't think the same can be said about the ''Wario'' ones). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 10:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
-==Segregation==
-Why are the video game characters treated separately from non-game characters? --{{User:Marcelagus/sig}}
-:That's a hangover from the time when we separated video game appearances from appearances in "other media". Actually, that should be fixed. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 13:30, 20 May 2010 (EDT)
-== Split Characters into Game Characters and Non-Game Characters ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-<strike>It has come to my attention that someone named Npguttery attempted to remove non-game characters from this article.  As a result, he/she got blocked for doing that.  However, I'm starting to think that non-game characters should have their own category.  Instead of using "Characters" to display every character, we could split it into "Game Characters" and "Non-Game Characters", so that we can separate the characters who don't appear in video games from the characters that do.
-'''Proposer:''' {{User|M&SG}}<br>
-'''Deadline:''' August 20, 2011 23:59 GMT</strike>
-===Comments===
-This proposal is invalid as it hasnt been a month since the proposal that merged them together passed {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
-This proposal has been dismissed.  Goomba's Shoe15 gave me the message that this proposal was already done less than a month ago; [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive#Merge_the_non-game_lists_on_the_side_bar_with_the_video_game_lists]. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 12:36, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
-== Add the Gender information about the characters please ==
-As I checked many other of NIWA's Wikis which include profiles about the characters they included a gender info such as SmashWiki,Inkipedia,Pikipedia,etc. but '''not''' this wiki,add the gender in each of characters' profiles as the only stats are:Full Name,Species,First Appearance and Latest Appearance(Only on characters that have appeared in 2 or more games).
-Do you agree? {{unsigned|ブリシツ}}
-:I don't. Gender is superfluous information, and the list is already large as it is. The name and first game appearance is already good enough. This ''is'' meant to be a simple list of characters, and I don't see how adding these information would enhance navigation, which is the sole purpose of this list. If you're dying to know a characters' gender, look it up on their article. Many characters here don't even have an assigned gender (hell, [[Audience]] is on here, there's no gender on that.) BTW, please sign your comments. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:56, 10 November 2015 (EST)
-== Boo ==
-Currently Boo is a non-existent link due to an incorrect link, I would fix it myself but I guess I need to wait to be auto-confirmed
-[[User:CappyThrow|CappyThrow]] ([[User talk:CappyThrow|talk]]) 13:53, 20 December 2018 (EST)
-:It's a page meant for a separate ''[[Mario Party Advance]]'' character, though it looks to be the only ''MPA'' character without a page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:30, 19 December 2018 (EST)
-== Missing dashes ==
-Mikhail S. Gorbachev and Stuffy the 64th are missing a dash between the name and their source. {{unsigned|AsparagusEduardo}}
-:The page is unprotected; you're free to make the changes yourself. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:29, March 26, 2020 (EDT)
-== Mayor linguine  ==
-In mario is missing for the MS DOS there is a character called mayor linguine [[User:Bobster|Bobster]] ([[User talk:Bobster|talk]]) 10:23, June 16, 2020 (EDT)
-== Separate Franchises ==
-I understand that Sonic was in the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games series, but shouldn't there be a separate section for characters that are from other games/franchises but are featured in Mario games (e.g. Mario Sports Mix, Mario and Sonic at the Olympics) I was coming here to get a random character and then put it in my drawing, although Sonic characters keep popping up. I'm guessing people like to come on the Mario Wiki for information, and the fact that there are characters from other franchises could be confusing.{{unsigned|1Oaktree2}}
-:This is meant to purely be an alphabetical list of all characters that appear in the ''Mario'' franchise. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:12, March 9, 2021 (EST)
-::Yes, I know that they appear in the games but I want the ones that are specifically ''Mario Characters'', and not characters that have been in crossovers {{User:1Oaktree2}}
-:::Then you'll have to follow the navigation at [[:Category:Mario Characters|the ''Mario'' characters category]]. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 05:51, March 11, 2021 (EST)
-== Latest appearance in the character infobox ==
-The title in the "Latest appearance" section of the character infobox denotes their most recent appearance in a ''Mario''-related media. Do we put only original video game titles and no other media, such as TV shows or comics? [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 00:37, December 26, 2022 (EST)
-:I believe we do count those for infoboxes; once the movie releases we should have that for latest appearances. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:13, December 26, 2022 (EST)
-== WHERE ARE THE MINIS ==
-all minis
-mini mario
-mini peach
-mini luigi
-mini dk
-mini diddy kong
-mini rosalina
-mini bowser
-mini bowser jr
-mini spek
-gold mini mario
-mini pauline
-mini yoshi
-(maybe cursed mini mario)
-WHY ARNT THEY HERE
-{{unsigned|Princepoyo}}
-:I've added the minis introduced in ''[[Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge]]'' since so far they're the only ones to have been shown as being individual characters, rather than part of a series of identical toys. Cursed Mini Mario is more of a state, and the other toys are already covered by the [[list of species]]. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 07:03, January 20, 2023 (EST)
-== Missing Saturday Supercade characters + other ==
-Ever since I watched all the available DK and
-DKJr. segments from Saturday Supercade, it always bugged me how the show got barely any representation on this page. Some characters are on there, but there's still a lot more that aren't. And since I can't edit this page because I'm not autoconfirmed yet, I need to request the missing characters.
-Here's the link to the character list: https://www.mariowiki.com/Category:Saturday_Supercade_characters
-I also want to request Belle from the korean dub of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show if thats possible? I know the korean dubs live-action segments aren't covered outside of a small mention on the Super Show page. But come on. It's a named character who has a major enough appearance. That should count! Here's the link to an episode: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YC111rmkGU&pp=ygUmU3VwZXIgbWFyaW8gYnJvcyBzdXBlciBzaG93IGtvcmVhbiBkdWI%3D
-Thanks in advance.
-[[User:Rykitu|Rykitu]] ([[User talk:Rykitu|talk]]) September 26, 2024
-All characters are added! Thank you all who contributed to this page!
-[[User:Rykitu|Rykitu]] ([[User talk:Rykitu|talk]]) October 11th, 2024
-== Missing advertisement/brand characters? ==
-How do you guys feel about adding these characters to the list? I've only listed characters that have interacted with Mario in person in one way or another. Here's what I've got so far:
-*'''{{wp|Tony the Tiger}}''': Tony appears alongside Mario in a couple of trading cards. (Source: [https://cerealoffers.com/Kelloggs/Frosties/1990/Gameboy_Collector_Cards_-Stic/gameboy_collector_cards-_stickers.html])
-*'''{{wp|Ronald McDonald}}''' and '''{{wp|Grimace character|Grimace}}''': Both interact with Mario in the [https://youtu.be/CClLVbJHZZU McDonald's Super Mario 3 Happy Meal Commercial (1990)].
-*'''[https://mcdonalds.fandom.com/wiki/Happy Happy]''' (the lunchbox character): Happy appears alongside Mario in '''a LOT''' of commercials. Here are '''a couple''' of them: [https://youtu.be/Dip4QoaSw6o], [https://youtu.be/jVFRusdRX-M], [https://youtu.be/lhsHBjFcc-Q].
-*'''Donny Domino''' (or simply Donny from what I can see) and '''{{wp|The Noid}}''': Both appear in this ad for the ''Domino's $25,000,000 Super Mario All-Stars Instant Win Game'' [https://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_references_in_advertisements#Domino.27s_Pizza], which was also featured in [[Nintendo Power]] issue No. 54[https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Nintendo-Power/Issue-54?id=50510&s=&readType=0#122]. Donny also appears (without the Noid) in this commercial spot: [https://youtu.be/pDzpOpyE824].
---[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 06:03, October 11, 2024 (EDT)
-:*'''Imajin''' and '''Lina''': [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Mario_imajin_doki_doki_panic.jpg] [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:DDP_Promotional_Poster.png] [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Doki_Doki_Panic_Art_02.jpg] --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 06:33, October 11, 2024 (EDT)
-Don’t forget the Hostess Munchies from this commercial: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ZeswzCxpo&pp=ygUZTWFyaW8gSG9zdGVzcyBtdW5jaGllcyBhZA%3D%3D
-[[User:Rykitu|Rykitu]] ([[User talk:Rykitu|talk]]) October 15, 2024
-== JabberJabberJayJay (Repeat entry?) ==
-The [[black Jibberjay]] is listed twice, once under proper noun "Black Jabberjay" and the other as just "Jabberjay". Is this standard operating procedure for character who is stuck with a conjectural name, or is the leader trying to make itself more important by appearing twice on a list it should only have one entry on? [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 05:14, December 26, 2024 (EST)
-:No, more likely, it was a mistake: either someone put it not knowing it was named "Black Jibberjay" and/or was already added as such or someone, while moving it to "Black Jibberjay", forgot to remove the original link. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 05:29, December 26, 2024 (EST)
-::That's settled then. But which entry to remove? On the one hand, Black Jabberjay is the page's title, and this page is more "wiki-meta" than about any specific work of fiction. On the other hand, this character very clearly writes their name as "Jabberjay" through the letters function. I have no opinion on this, but I think the wiki does need an opinion. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 07:17, December 26, 2024 (EST)
-:::I would check the guides for its name (I can't since I can only check the Italian ones) so we can officially de-conjecutralize the page. Also, we should take this on the subject's discussion page. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 07:29, December 26, 2024 (EST)
-That was me and I apologize. For the past few weeks I have been going on a mad quest to go through [[Special:AllPages]] and a bunch of navigation templates to find missing characters (if you couldn't tell from my name flooding the edit history).when I got to Black Jibberjay I didn't see it on there and had no idea it was already on the list as Jibberjay further down the list. I will delete Jibberjay so the name isn't repeated twice. {{User|Rykitu}}
-:Yeah, but now we might have a problem: while discussing of the name, we might have discovered that the character should be merged with the species since he is basically a color variantion of the main species. Not enough distincitve traits. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 19:40, December 26, 2024 (EST)