Editing Talk:List of Super Mario 64 glitches

== Are you kidding me? ==
Super Mario 64 is one of the glitchiest games around and pretty much anyone who still plays it today will tell you they play it for either 1) speedrunning, which exploits glitches, or 2) for the discovery of new glitches. This is one of the worst pages on this wiki because not only does it have a whole bunch of minor glitches that are worded poorly, but also it lacks one of the most famous glitches in any game ever! And that's hardly an exaggeration! It lacks the backwards long jump. If you don't know what that is, look it up. If you do, write it in the article because I can't. I am not a wiki editor but I can complain over the quality. So there, someone please fix this atrocious little stub of an article. {{User:Quate/sig}} 15:42, 30 December 2009 (EST)

It doesn't lack the backwards long jump glitch. Read the article more closely next time you look at 'the worst article on the website'. {{unsigned|108.15.70.52}}

== Random letter ==
It's not a glitch! It's Bowser's trapdoor as it looks from bottom. See clearer, its like two squares from another angle.{{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

:M'kay, thanks.{{Unsigned|Toudou1620}}

==Bob-ombs glitches==
In this video, there are many bugs with Bob-ombs. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpiTPtZ4Fxg] {{User:Yoshi986/sig}} 19:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

==The Black Room Of Death==
It's also possible to get on the castle without 120 stars, you need to climb on it from the sides, though it's not that easy. You can watch the action from [http://youtu.be/5v90BCw5sZo here] or [http://youtu.be/-roXudZB77A here]. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

== Is This a glitch? ==

Non-Completable Mission (Almost!) is not a glitch because that if nintendo want to fix this glitch they would put infinity number of thoose enemies
{{user:megadardery/sig}}

I agree. I think Nintendo did it on purpose to add some challange.{{User:MarioManiac164/sig}}
==Remove all cartridge tilting glitches==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-12|keep them}}
This includes Flip'd-up Mario 1, Flip'd-up Mario 2,Flip'd-up Mario 3,Flip'd-up Mario 4, Mario lying on the floor and Xylophone Music (optional) . They are unnecessary, and beside that, they aren't really glitches.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Deadline''': July 11, 2013, 23:59 GMT

====Remove====
#{{User|Megadardery}} - Per proposal
#{{User|Sonic98}} - Per Megadardery

====Keep====
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} First, harmful effects caused by fiddling with the game cartridge does indeed qualify as glitches (they are programming errors that result in unintentional effects including no clipping and sputtering noises). Second, why do you think they are unnecessary? It's nice to know what glitches happen to your game when the cartridge gets moved around, and it doesn't hurt to include glitches caused by that. I don't see a great reason to remove these glitches.
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per. These are still glitches, no matter how you phrase it.
#{{User|Ace Shadow}} Per LGM and TT.
#{{User|Tails777}} Per Time Turner
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per LGM and TT.
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per LGM and TT, even if it's caused by something outside of the game.
#{{User|MarioRolandHelper}} Per LGM and TT.
#{{User|Sinanco}} Per LGM and TT.
#{{User|Vommack}} Per LGM and TT.
#{{User|Superfiremario}} Per LeftyGreenMario.
#{{User|KP}} Per LGM and TT.
#{{User|Gonzales Kart Inc.}} Something goes wrong because of tilting a cartridge. IT'S STILL A GLITCH. What I just was pretty much per LGM.

====Comments====
Cartridge tilting glitches are similar to errors that happens in the Files when the CD is scratched. Does they count as global problems in all CDs?!-- {{User|Megadardery}}

@LGM [[MarioWiki:Glitch#.22Legitimacy.22_of_a_glitch|Read the first paragraph here]], And then I'll tell you tilting the cartridge is some sort of damage to the physical media, beside I don't agree with your sentence: "they are programming errors".-- {{User|Megadardery}}
:It's not technically damage (as in, the disc is scratched to begin with), per se, though, but this can result in damage. They're still programming errors since the game is acting in a way that isn't intentionally programmed to do (e.g. no clipping).<br> {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 18:11, 28 June 2013 (EDT)
::If I tilted the disc in the CD-rom, the files will be corrupt.-- {{User|Megadardery}}
:::How can you tilt a CD in a Nintendo console to find glitches? I don't think it's a good example you're giving.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:44, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
:::When tilting a cartridge, you disallow the console to read all bytes and information. and bout my example: I mean in computer If I tilted a little to the top(so it couldn't be full read), Most files won't work, and others may be corrupt..-- {{User|Megadardery}}
:::More examples: if the cartridge is made by four parts "1111" (the first is animation, the second is mapping controls, the third is reading data, the fourth is for Converting data) and I tilted it to the left (so it would be "--/" instead of "----"), what do you think will happen? The data won't be converted or the data will be converted into corrupt data. That's what i mean.-- {{User|Megadardery}}
::::That's true, and tilting the cartridge is making the game read it incorrectly.
::::But, isn't tilting a cartridge sort of replicating a glitch? Many times when you're performing a glitch, you're deliberately exploiting something that can also damage the game. Cartridge tilting is something physical, isn't it?
::::You're trying to argue that this doesn't qualify as a valid glitch that can be replicated. Yes, it can be replicated. There are directions to perform the glitch in the first place. The other glitches that don't qualify (like graphical glitches caused by damage) seem to happen randomly and beyond the players' control. That's the main point of my argument.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 19:17, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

:Let's see everything you said:
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{{quote2|That's true, and tilting the cartridge is making the game read it incorrectly.|[[User:LeftyGreenMario]]}}
'''That's good you understood me.'''<br>
{{quote2|But, isn't tilting a cartridge sort of replicating a glitch? Many times when you're performing a glitch, you're deliberately exploiting something that can also damage the game. Cartridge tilting is something physical, isn't it?|[[User:LeftyGreenMario]]}}
'''Yes, and no. When I perform a glitch, it happens because an error in the source code, but tilting a cartridge MAKES an error in the code. Nope I don't think so.'''<br>
{{quote2|You're trying to argue that this doesn't qualify as a valid glitch that can be replicated|[[User:LeftyGreenMario]]}}
'''Yes it is not a real glitch, but it still can be performed.'''<br>
{{quote2|There are directions to perform the glitch in the first place.|[[User:LeftyGreenMario]]}}
'''Maybe, but still the same, It is still not a really glitch because the same problem.'''<br>
{{quote2|like graphical glitches caused by damage|[[User:LeftyGreenMario]]}}
'''Nope, Boo Glitch happens because the game thought that the player chased it, but he didn't.
Camera Glitch happens because the camera wasn't very fast to capture Mario's back.
Invisible Bowser Glitch happens because that the game didn't know that Bowser is Invisible right now.
Random Hidden Door, Random Secret Cloud possibly happens because an early stage of making the game that was forgotten.'''<br>
{{quote2|That's the main point of my argument|[[User:LeftyGreenMario]]}}
'''That's good that I understood, now I'm waiting for your comment, By the way, Discussing this situation on chat will be better, once you on the chat, leave me a message on my talk.'''
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<div align=right>-- {{User|Megadardery}}</div>
:This is obviously a glitch, and you can't call it "real" or not. Even if you think it doesn't qualify as a glitch to be listed, it's still a glitch. I said the reason some graphical glitches aren't covered is that they're caused by CD/cartridge damage, and they're beyond the player's control, not because there was an exploit in the game's coding. Finally, I don't go on chat, sorry. It's not my thing. <br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 15:37, 2 July 2013 (EDT)

== DS? ==

If N64 one organized,why DS not?--{{User:MarioRolandHelper/sig}} 20:03, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
:It just isn't. [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=25386.0 There is a group effort dedicated to cleaning up glitch pages], and I think that page you were referring to has yet to be organized. <br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 21:03, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

== Why is this page protected? ==

There are errors in this page and I want to fix them and also add more glitches. Please let me temporary edit the page to fix a bunch of mistakes.
{{unsigned|190.99.10.39}}
:It is protected because the vast majority of anons vandalize these pages repeatedly by adding false glitches. If you want to edit it you must create an account and become autoconfirmed. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::If you want to add something to this page, just request it here and it will be edited if applicable.
::--{{User:Mariotime11/sig}} 17:59, 20 July 2013 (EDT)

== "Jump n' Kick" ==

Is this even a glitch? It sounds more like a simple shortcut to the star, in my opinion.

{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 09:01, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Doesn't seem like a glitch at all to me. {{User:Scr7/sig}} 09:05, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:I agree that it doesn't sound like a glitch. Should we remove this? {{User:World10/sig}} 09:22, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

::Yep. Deleted the images as well, as there were no longer a use for them.

::{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 09:32, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

:::But remember to add that to each star mission Ok?--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 12:32, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

== Cannonless glitch ==

Where did it go? SuperFlameGuy

== [[Mario]] lying on the floor ==

Can this glitch be performed on real console? I mean similar to Stop n' Swap from Banjo-Kazooie, this is supposed to be impossible, because originally, the player would have had ten seconds to swap game cartridges, but due to revisions in the Nintendo 64 hardware, this time was reduced to only one second. Same issue here. Can any one prove this?--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 09:09, 31 January 2014 (EST)

== Another Ukiki freeze!? ==

I grabbed ukiki and it stole Mario's hat and then I caught is again then I moved across the log and i missed the platform and mario had 0 lives and before the game over came up the game froze.(takes deep breath) is that a glitch?  Is this even because of Ukiki?[[User:Shroomed|Shroomed]] ([[User talk:Shroomed|talk]]) 19:19, 7 April 2014 (EDT)

== swimming in air glitch ==

its not a cheat cuz i can only do it in one area   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSlNtNpPLI {{unsigned|99.111.148.120}}

== Cloning?! ==

One of the most famous glitches is the cloning via grabbing fake items glitch, and I think it should be here. For an explanation, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xE2otZ-9os
Videos of it are all over YouTube, so there is loadsa proof [[User:Mistop|Mistop]] ([[User talk:Mistop|talk]])

== Hat-in-hand glitch ==
Can someone add the fact that if you grab objects with hat in hand they bug out and teleport when dropped?{{unsigned|76.24.37.165 }}

== Pole with star glitch ==
Hello I think I found a glitch in Super Mario 64, in Dire Dire Docks, when you are on pole, and you get red coin while on pole and grab star, you will teleport underwater and animation of getting star will happen, but after this you will instant teleport upwards. I can't believe nobody found that earlier.
[[User:Matriks404|Matriks404]] 22.08.2014 00:59 GMT+2

:A similar glitch is already known, refer to [[List_of_Super_Mario_64_glitches#100-Coin_Star_Glitch|100-Coin Star Glitch]]--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 14:59, 5 April 2015 (EDT)

== Is this a problem? ==

One time, my game froze during the black transition into VCutM. Another time, the game bugged out and made weird noises when I went next to Dorrie in HMC.

== Crash and soft locks ==

The "dead Mario freeze" by grabbing the star with 0/8 hp doesn't erase the saved file at all. It actually soft locks the game (crash has random results AND freezes). It just freeze and nothing impacted.[[User:CoinBro|CoinBro]] ([[User talk:CoinBro|talk]]) 23:13, 23 June 2015 (EDT)
:Where does it mention that it erases the save file? Just need some clarification. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:15, 23 June 2015 (EDT)

It says it impacts the save file just at the cartridge tilting part: I thought the warning applies and continues until the next title appears. Do you think it's a good idea to put what impacts the save file ''in'' the warning box, so readers can see the "range" where it applies the warning on these glitches. [[User:CoinBro|CoinBro]] ([[User talk:CoinBro|talk]]) 14:05, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
:According to the table of contents, "dead Mario freeze" isn't in the subsection of "Cartridge tilting", so it's not a glitch involving tilting the cartridge. I'll move the cartridge-tilting section to the bottom of the "freeze" section then. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:44, 26 June 2015 (EDT)

Okay, nevermind [[User:CoinBro|CoinBro]] ([[User talk:CoinBro|talk]]) 22:47, 29 June 2015 (EDT)

== Bullys get stuck in walls (played on emulator) ==

I'm not sure if the actual Nintendo 64 game and the emulator differ from each other, but I found a glitch involving a [[Bully]] which occurred when I kicked one towards a wall (specifically, I was in the volcano of [[Lethal Lava Land]]) and it got stuck there. It seemed to be in the animation for when it's hit by Mario and I was kinda close to the wall when I did it. I didn't try getting it out  of the wall, though.



[[User:Yin10Dou|Yin10Dou]] ([[User talk:Yin10Dou|talk]]) 15:36, 17 October 2015 (EDT)Yin10Dou

== Fake Cap ==

I feel like this is just Cap in Hand but with less info. Other opinions? [[User:Sauzels|Sauzels]] ([[User talk:Sauzels|talk]]) 02:33, 28 January 2016 (EST)

== broken link ==

I seen several dead links.

When the next time a user adds a link, can you add a notice that if its a youtube: "please include the username". Bulbapedia seems to do that. Here is the broken link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJCJaIGX5E (don't know who made it)

== Ugh ==

'''Camera zooming in Pause Menu'''

 I have no idea how to use wiki... sommeone please just put this into the article.  This glitch can be done anywhere. If the player waits until mario is asleep/falling asleep, the camera will start to zoom in. If the player wakes Mario up, the camera zooms back out. The player must pause while the camera is zooming out, it will continue to zoom while in the pause menu. The player can also do this while Mario is falling asleep. (citation needed)

== Zero stars glitch is most likely wrong ==

I will start off by saying that I am no expert, but in watching the newest world record TAS that was released on November 24th, They still have to get at least one key. If the glitch was as simple as go to the main stairs in the castle and shoot back through them that would greatly reduce the time needed to do the run as they would have no need to go get the key from the fire sea, and would just shoot straight up through that door, up to the third level, and up through the endless stairs. {{unsigned|‎71.13.16.137}}

== Fly guy glitch ==

On this page, it just says there is a glitch to reduce fly guy's size. It should say how to do the glitch (run back and forth underneath him) and why the glitch happens (something to do with the fact that he puffs up a little when he shoots fire)
{{unsigned|‎161.97.140.17}}
:We do have a reference to a video, but I added some additional information. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:58, 4 April 2017 (EDT)

== I foresee this article needing some structural changes to be done. ==

I love this page, probably because I wrote ~97 of these ~151 glitch entries. (I wrote more than half of this page, in other words.) But some recent discoveries have led me to believe that for this page to grow in scope, it needs to be restructured again.

Super Mario 64 is the first page that seems to require this future planning, because it is also the most-developed Glitches page.
The distinction between specific glitches (limited to one location in the game) and general glitches (can be done anywhere) makes it difficult to determine if the glitches should be organized according to the player-minded qualifiers (specific levels) or programmer-minded qualifiers (objects and level geometry). I am committed to making this page so well-structured as to be the paradigm for all the Glitch pages. 

So let me first discuss the upcoming problems that I foresee.

This page is getting rather long. A solution may be to divide it into separate pages linked from a central article. This would be a mostly unprecedented move, notwithstanding the Minus World. The length of the article, however, is not a problem unless navigation becomes confusing. That is why restructuring may be necessary for it to be properly read. It will also make it easier to contribute glitches after making sure that they are not duplicates.

But the informal and technical description divide seems to be the deepest problem. (I am indebted to Pannenkoek2012 for all the work he has done. Most of the glitches that I added were from him.)

Some glitches are exclusive to one location, but can also be explained using technical terminology. For the proper restructuring, there needs to be a certain consistency in the description of glitches.

Walls, floors and ceilings all behave differently. So my "Invisible Walls" entry really should be divided into three, et cetera.

So I propose that Glitches should always be described first in general terms (and organized as such), preferably using an accurate description of why they 
occur, and how to trigger them, (if it is possible for the unskilled, then in a simple manner). So the technical description should come first, along with informal directions. If the cause of the glitch is still unknown, I do believe that it is permissible to give a good conjecture on why it occurs.

Next should come the specific locations that the glitch occurs. These should use the official names (level names) first. Then specific areas in the level can be named, or the location can be described based on its proximity to the other named things, like level geometry and enemies. Finally the vague descriptions of "that wall next to that wall" come into play, along with directions to perform that glitch, if they are unique to that location.
A picture is worth a thousand words. So for each "specific glitch", I place the unofficial requirement that at least one picture be included. (I suppose that I shall start to work on that task.)

Lastly can come an informal explanation of the glitch, or a good conjecture on why it happens.

So to recapitulate what I have said:

I love this article. It has the most content.

This article is long enough so that it may be split, but it is not required.

Pannenkoek2012 has by his discoveries made it possible to give a more technical explanation of glitches than ever before.

Both the technical and informal descriptions of glitches need to be included.

Technical descriptions should come first, for accuracy.

Informal descriptions should come, wherever possible, for clarity.

Glitches should be organized firstly from the technical descriptions and secondly from the informal descriptions.

For this article to grow in scope and be a good paradigm, it needs to be restructured according to these principles.

(Now that I think about it, I realize that this isn't so much a specific proposal as it is a general guideline.)

If there's anybody who's the most likely to do the restructuring, it's me.
--[[User:Glitchfinder|Glitchfinder]] ([[User talk:Glitchfinder|talk]]) 17:12, 18 June 2017 (EDT)
:It's the first venture for Nintendo into 3D gaming, so there's going to be some mistakes. The page currently has a rewrite template, so it is asking for help from those that can provide it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:48, 18 June 2017 (EDT)

== Please remove semiprotection; 0 star method wrong ==

Hello,

I'm new here (maybe I had an account here years ago, but I can't remember) and want to edit this article, but it is semi-protected for apparently no reason, so that I can't edit it. It would be nice if an admin unprotects the page.


Also, the paragraph “beat the game with 0 stars“ is wrong. You can't glitch through the door to the second floor with a BLJ, because there's just a loading zone behind it - and you would most likely end up in a BRoD if you manage to clip through the door. This means you need to get at least the second bowser's key to complete the game.

The correct way to beat the game with 0 stars is the following one:

Either use the Moat Door Skip to enter the basement (which currently is only possible with TAS) or use the BLJ in the BRoD next to the stairs leading to the locked basement door to skip through the big star door into the first bowser level. Beat bowser, unlock the door in the basement. 

If you've done the Moat Door Skip, you're already in the basement. 

Go to the small set of stairs in the hall where the 30 star door is and do BLJs on them to build up speed and skip through said door and the DDD loading zone into the second bowser level.

Beat Bowser, enter the level again and leave the course via the pause menu to respawn in the castle's main hall. 
Use the second bowser's key to enter the second floor, and use BLJs to clip through the 50 star door and to reach the end of the endless stairs.[[User:Semako|Semako]] ([[User talk:Semako|talk]]) 12:37, 25 September 2017 (EDT)

:The page (and all glitch pages, for that matter) are protected to avoid potentially invalid or theoretical glitches. You will be able to edit the page once you become [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]]. Or would you like someone to add the information for you? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:43, 25 September 2017 (EDT)
::Ok, thanks for the explanation, this makes sense. As I'm now autoconfirmed, I rewrote the 0 star route, the bob-omb clip (was named Mario behind the gates before, but it is usually called the Bob-omb clip) and the Moat Door Skip; but especially for the Moat Door Skip, I would have to write much more than I can in a single paragraph here on the glitches page, as it is fairly complicated (I've not done it myself as I run console only, not TAS) and also it would be nice to explain why it works. For now, I have provided Ref-links with videos of the glitch and the PU route and a detailed description about said route and why the glitch works. Shall I write a new article about this glitch or isn't it relevant for the MarioWiki, as it isn't a speedrun wiki? ;-) [[User:Semako|Semako]] ([[User talk:Semako|talk]]) 13:39, 2 October 2017 (EDT)