Editing Talk:List of Mario games

{{Settled TPP}}

{{Proposal outcome|failed|3-8|no merge}}

I wanted to know if we could merge all Mario, Donkey Kong, and Wario games into one article and make a separate article for Mario, for example called ''List of Mario games'' and still keep [[List of Donkey Kong games]] and [[List of Wario games]] the reason for this is because the name of the article is [[List of games|Games]] shouldn't that mean all games go here and not just Mario games. If not just rename the article ''List of Mario games''.  

#{{User|Arend}} - As what I assume, this proposal is about copying every game on this page (mostly ''Mario'' games only) to {{fake link|List of Mario Games}}, and combining ''every single video game article'', including the ''Donkey Kong'' and ''Wario'' games that have their separate page for games. Not a bad idea, in my opinion.

Let me get this straight: the proposer basically wants to move this article to {{fake link|List of Mario games}} and use this page to combine all or the series games into one big collective list?--{{User|Knife}} 19:08, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

I wanted to know if we could '''duplicate''' all Mario, Donkey Kong, and Wario games into one article and make a separate article for Mario, for example called ''List of Mario games'' and still keep [[List of Donkey Kong games]] and [[List of Wario games]] '''seprete''' the reason for this is because the name of the article is [[List of games|Games]] shouldn't that mean all games go here and not just Mario games. If not just rename the article ''List of Mario games''. '''This way we have a ''List of Mario games'', ''List of Donkey Kong games'', ''List of Wario games'' and ''Games'' were I want to merge all games there and we'll have four seprete acticles.'''</blockquote>

{{Settled TPP}}

{{Proposal outcome|failed|4-5|oppose}}

I wanted to know if we could duplicate all Mario, Donkey Kong, Wario, and Yoshi games onto the article called "Games" which already exist then make a separate article for Mario, for example called "List of Mario games" as well as one for Yoshi called "List of Yoshi games" and still keep the acticles [[List of Donkey Kong games]] and [[List of Wario games]] separated from "List of Mario games" and "List of Yoshi games", and "Games". The reason why I want to do this is because the name of the article is "[[List of games|Games]]" shouldn't that mean that all games here on MarioWiki go there and not just MARIO GAMES and YOSHI GAMES. If the proposal pases then there will be five seperete game articles one by the name of, "Games" which like I said already exist, the second one will have to be created and named by, "List of Mario games", a third will also have to be created and named by, ''List of Yoshi games'', and a fourth one by, ''List of Donkey Kong games'', and a fifth one by "List of Wario games". So if the propasal passes what I want to do is duplicate all games from the articles "List of Mario games", ''List of Donkey Kong games'', and ''List of Wario games'' and still keep their original articles but all their games will be duplicated onto the article "Games" which already exist however we will have to make one for "List of Mario games" and another for "List of Yoshi games". If this proposal passes the "Games" article will include all Mario, Donkey Kong, Wario, and Yoshi games respectively, but it wouldn't delete Mario's, Donkey Kong's, Wario's, and Yoshi's games list articles just duplicate their game information onto the article "Games".  

#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per what I said in the comments of the last proposal and this proposal. "Games" implies all games, not just ''Mario'' (and ''Yoshi'') games; the current setup, with only ''Wario'' and ''Donkey Kong'' getting kicked out onto their own segregated lists, is inconsistent. The arguments against the change make little sense. Yes, this page would become longer, but not "ridiculously" long (things like [[Mario (franchise)]] are far more unwieldy), and it certainly doesn't mean that no one will read it: having big list of ''all'' the games can be quite useful sometimes. Besides, the new, separate, ''Mario'' and ''Yoshi'' lists would each be smaller than this page, so if someone only wants to see the hundred-plus ''Mario'' games without the couple dozen ''DK'' and ''Wario'' games cluttering it all up, they could still do that (and vice-versa, since the ''Wario'' and ''DK'' pages will remain as they are, only now they'll be joined by a ''Yoshi'' page too). Also, all the pages use the exact same template: all that would need to be done because of this is copying and pasting and fixing some numbers - it won't cause issues with the templates at all, so I have no clue where that argument's coming from either. There are a lot of things that make the wiki look bad; this change will not be one of them.

Just to clarify for the sake of anyone who might misunderstand, this is proposing that we convert this page, [[List of games|Games]], into a complete list of ''Mario'', ''Donkey Kong'', ''Wario'' and ''Yoshi'' games. In its current state, this page only has ''Mario'' and ''Yoshi'', whereas the other two series have their own separate pages: [[List of Donkey Kong games]] and [[List of Wario games]]. These two pages will '''not be deleted''' as a result of the master list's creation - quite the opposite, actually, since we will add to their number by creating a [[List of Mario games]] page and a [[List of Yoshi games]] page, essentially recreating this current page under a different name ("List of Mario games"), while at the same time getting rid of the inconsistency that sees ''Yoshi'' merged with ''Mario'' while ''DK'' and ''Wario'' are separate. This results in a '''total of five pages''', one for each series, and one central list of all the series mixed together (and including any games that don't fit into one of the four series, like the crossover ''SSB'' series or ''Captain Rainbow''). That way, both people looking through the '''games by series''' ''and'' those looking through '''all the games as a whole''' will have lists catering to their needs. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 14:37, 23 June 2012 (EDT)