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== More than one Link ==
== More than one Link ==
Should we mention that there are more than one Link? Thought this doesn't seem very Marioish, but we may have to say that because the Link in Super Mario RPG and Donkey Kong Country is not the same Link in the Smash Bros. Series. Plus, the Link in Smash Bros. Melee seems to not be the same one that will appear in Brawl. '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' (I confused many gamers that don't play Zelda...)
Should we mention that there are more than one Link? Thought this doesn't seem very Marioish, but we may have to say that because the Link in Super Mario RPG and Donkey Kong Country is not the same Link in the Smash Bros. Series. Plus, the Link in Smash Bros. Melee seems to not be the same one that will appear in Brawl. http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif (I confused many gamers that don't play Zelda...)
:I don't play Zelda, and I know what you are talking about. I still refuse to believe there are several Link's. Anyway, no, it is not Mario-related, so, don't put that down. It is ridiculous anyway to believe there are hundreds of Link's. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
:I don't play Zelda, and I know what you are talking about. I still refuse to believe there are several Link's. Anyway, no, it is not Mario-related, so, don't put that down. It is ridiculous anyway to believe there are hundreds of Link's. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}


::But all of the games confirm that there is more than one. Even interviews with game creators say this. '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' Ah well...not very Marioish...maybe I'm just becoming too much Zelda fan...agh...
::But all of the games confirm that there is more than one. Even interviews with game creators say this. http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Ah well...not very Marioish...maybe I'm just becoming too much Zelda fan...agh...
:::Yeah, just leave it out. Also, no point arguing over something that isn't Mario-related. Wether there is many Link's or not isn't of this Wiki's concern :P {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} Still interesting, though.
:::Yeah, just leave it out. Also, no point arguing over something that isn't Mario-related. Wether there is many Link's or not isn't of this Wiki's concern :P {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} Still interesting, though.


::::Very well then. But I wasn't arguing if there was one or more Link (we arleady got proof from the game directors and stuff as well as the games directly say so) I was wondering if we should put the info in. Since there IS a chance they're not the same Link. '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]'''
::::Very well then. But I wasn't arguing if there was one or more Link (we arleady got proof from the game directors and stuff as well as the games directly say so) I was wondering if we should put the info in. Since there IS a chance they're not the same Link. http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif
:::::Meh, doesn't really matter anyway. It ain't Mario-related, so, who cares on this Wiki :P I still think it was interesting though. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} I will definetely play as Link in Brawl. :P
:::::Meh, doesn't really matter anyway. It ain't Mario-related, so, who cares on this Wiki :P I still think it was interesting though. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} I will definetely play as Link in Brawl. :P


:::::All Legend of Zelda games feature different Links (save Majora and Ocarina, in which both Links were the same). But basically, there are many incarnations of Links throughout the series. And the Brawl link is a different Link from the one in Melee (though the one in Melee is still the same as the Link in the orifinal). Confusing end to an argument, huh?{{User:Knife/sig}} 00:32, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
:::::All Legend of Zelda games feature different Links (save Majora and Ocarina, in which both Links were the same). But basically, there are many incarnations of Links throughout the series. And the Brawl link is a different Link from the one in Melee (though the one in Melee is still the same as the Link in the orifinal). Confusing end to an argument, huh?{{User:Knife/sig}} 00:32, 15 August 2007 (EDT)


::::::Fine then... '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]'''
::::::Fine then... http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif


Yes. And while it is highly possible that all the Ganondorfs are the same, it's more likely that they are all different as well. {{User:Master Lucario/sig}}
Yes. And while it is highly possible that all the Ganondorfs are the same, it's more likely that they are all different as well. {{User:Master Lucario/sig}}
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== SMM2 form ==
== SMM2 form ==


{{talk}}
Shouldn't the ''Super Mario Maker 2'' form be split out from this article in order to retain consistency with articles like [[Peachette]]? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:06, December 2, 2019 (EST)
Shouldn't the ''Super Mario Maker 2'' form be split out from this article in order to retain consistency with articles like [[Peachette]]? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:06, December 2, 2019 (EST)
:I don't think these are really comparable, Peachette is clearly a unique transformation as a result of combining Peach and Toadette. Link is just... Link. Splitting Link for consistency with Peachette would be more like splitting out Link in Mario Maker 2 and then splitting the Peachette form and her appearance in Mario Kart Tour. I don't see a reason to split for now. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:16, December 2, 2019 (EST)
:I don't think these are really comparable, Peachette is clearly a unique transformation as a result of combining Peach and Toadette. Link is just... Link. Splitting Link for consistency with Peachette would be more like splitting out Link in Mario Maker 2 and then splitting the Peachette form and her appearance in Mario Kart Tour. I don't see a reason to split for now. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:16, December 2, 2019 (EST)
::I'm not sure about Peachette, but others come to mind like Metal Mario that have separate articles over the form and character (as loose as that is). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:27, December 2, 2019 (EST)
::I'm not sure about Peachette, but others come to mind like Metal Mario that have separate articles over the form and character (as loose as that is). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:27, December 2, 2019 (EST)
:::Okay, yeah, that's a better precedent. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:58, December 2, 2019 (EST)
::::Eh, I still don't think it's necessary. Metal Mario is a form turned into a unique entity, while Link is a unique entity turned into a form. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:35, December 2, 2019 (EST)
:::::To be honest, I don't think Metal Mario and the like necessitated splitting either, but that's beside the point. Personally, I see it as more a possible evolution of Costume Mario. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:11, December 2, 2019 (EST)
Well someone already made the article for the Master Sword with most of the information covered there. [[User:Mario Sakuraba|Mario Sakuraba]] ([[User talk:Mario Sakuraba|talk]]) 22:17, December 2, 2019 (EST)
== Merge Young Link and Toon Link info to here ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|9-2|merge}}
I'm proposing merging [[List_of_fighters_debuting_in_Super_Smash_Bros._Melee#Young_Link|Young Link's]] and [[List_of_fighters_debuting_in_Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl#Toon_Link's|Toon Link's]] sections in the fighter lists they're in to this article, as well as having [[Young Link]] and [[Toon Link]] redirect to this article, for the following reasons:
*Since they're all Link, it would make all the Link-related info easier to find.
*The fighter lists Young Link and Toon Link are part of are already really huge.
*I haven't seen the "Young Link" and "Toon Link" names used very often for these incarnations. From what I've seen, they're usually just called "Link".
'''Proposer''': {{User|Mushzoom}}<br>
'''Deadline''': June 20th, 2024, 23:59 GMT
===Support===
#{{User|Mushzoom}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Ahemtoday}} Similarly to a talking point between the sub-options of the current [[Samus]] TPP, these specific distinctions between Links are Smash-original. Although there are multiple individual Links in this case, Smash lumps adult OoT Link, TP Link, and BotW Link under the "Link" name while separating other versions, which is a Smash-original conceit. As Link's article specifically exists because of his ''non''-Smash relevance, I don't think it makes sense to follow Smash's lead in splitting these characters in this way.
#{{User|Hewer}} Per Ahemtoday, and per the Samus proposal splitting Zero Suit Samus into the same page as Samus. Since we've got a Link page for the character's Mario-relevant appearances, it makes sense to put all of those appearances there rather than splitting based solely on Smash.
#{{User|Pseudo}} Per all.
#{{User|Nintendo101}} Link is Link.
#{{User|DrBaskerville}} Per Ahemtoday and Hewer; there's no ''link'' between Young Link and Toon Link and the ''Mario'' world other than Smash, so while it makes sense for Link to have his own page given his appearance in ''Mario'' games, the same is not true for Toon Link or Young Link. Any necessary information about them should just be included on Link's page.
#{{User|SeanWheeler}} Let's reduce the clutter of the Smash character lists.
#{{User|Jdtendo}} Per all. Plus, I feel like the articles for the microgames [[Ocarina of Time]] and [[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D]] should refer to young Link as "[[Link]]" (as the in-game microgame descriptions do) rather than "[[Young Link]]" which is a ''Smash Bros''-specific concept.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} No Link left behind!
===Oppose===
#{{User|Tails777}} I'm kinda leaning more to opposing. Neither Toon Link, nor Young Link have nearly as much connection to the ''Mario series'' as normal adult Link does, meaning their presence here is almost entirely reliant on their ''Smash'' info (I guess they do have cameos in ''WarioWare'', but that's a cameo, not a full on appearance). As a result, it, to me, makes more sense to follow Smash's way of separating them. The length of the respective lists doesn't feel like too strong of a reason, as those lists are going to be long regardless due to the fact that they're meant to cover so many fighters and the incarnations going by the name Link is only really relevant to the ''Legend of Zelda series'', which doesn't really have too much to do with how the ''Mario series'' covers them. In the context of ''Smash'', something we still have coverage on, it refers to them as individual fighters so I think it's fine to keep them separate on their respective fighter lists.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per Tails.
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