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As the article points out (and already pointed out before my recent slight rewrite), this enemy bears more than a passing resemblance to [[Sledge Bro]], though we don't list it as derivative of it. The problem is, in the original MLSS, the normal Hammer Bros. were designed in such a way that ''also'' resembled Sledge Bros., just not quite as much (and smaller than Limbo Bros.; themselves slightly smaller than the more muscley Chomp Bros., as seen by the images to the right). In the remake, Hammer Bros. look more normal and these keep a Sledge Bro-like design, though that obviously has to do with not having a "normal" design to fall back to (though they decided to split the Boomerang Bros...). Anyways, I'm looking for consensus of whether we should continue treating this simply as a Hammer Bro derivative or more specifically as one for Sledge Bro. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:31, September 9, 2024 (EDT) | As the article points out (and already pointed out before my recent slight rewrite), this enemy bears more than a passing resemblance to [[Sledge Bro]], though we don't list it as derivative of it. The problem is, in the original MLSS, the normal Hammer Bros. were designed in such a way that ''also'' resembled Sledge Bros., just not quite as much (and smaller than Limbo Bros.; themselves slightly smaller than the more muscley Chomp Bros., as seen by the images to the right). In the remake, Hammer Bros. look more normal and these keep a Sledge Bro-like design, though that obviously has to do with not having a "normal" design to fall back to (though they decided to split the Boomerang Bros...). Anyways, I'm looking for consensus of whether we should continue treating this simply as a Hammer Bro derivative or more specifically as one for Sledge Bro. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:31, September 9, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:I guess considering my comments on the Border Bros page it shouldn't be surprising that I disagree with this. First off, because I'm still (admittedly without much evidence for or against) convinced that the Hammer Bro sprite resembling a Sledge Bro is because it was originally intended to be one, due to the unused green-body-and-black-shell palette. But also, I'd say that the off-model-ness of this game's sprites is a bit overstated? Sure, there are a lot of weird designs for stuff like the Starshade Bros and Border Bros, and then there's the Toads, which... what even happened there. But regular recurring enemies otherwise tend to look reasonably on-model. Goombas, Spinies, Rexes, Magikoopas, etc. Granted, there are the Boomerang Bros, which... no idea what happened there, but they have leaves on their heads, so they're clearly not intended to be regular Boomerang Bros in the first place. And even putting aside my weird theory, the Sledge Bro's whole distinguishing gimmick is that they're so heavy that they shake the ground. Yet what does the Minion Quest profile for Limbo Bros say about them? That "Their bodies are much lighter than they appear." [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 13:11, September 14, 2024 (EDT) | :I guess considering my comments on the Border Bros page it shouldn't be surprising that I disagree with this. First off, because I'm still (admittedly without much evidence for or against) convinced that the Hammer Bro sprite resembling a Sledge Bro is because it was originally intended to be one, due to the unused green-body-and-black-shell palette. But also, I'd say that the off-model-ness of this game's sprites is a bit overstated? Sure, there are a lot of weird designs for stuff like the Starshade Bros and Border Bros, and then there's the Toads, which... what even happened there. But regular recurring enemies otherwise tend to look reasonably on-model. Goombas, Spinies, Rexes, Magikoopas, etc. Granted, there are the Boomerang Bros, which... no idea what happened there, but they have leaves on their heads, so they're clearly not intended to be regular Boomerang Bros in the first place. And even putting aside my weird theory, the Sledge Bro's whole distinguishing gimmick is that they're so heavy that they shake the ground. Yet what does the Minion Quest profile for Limbo Bros say about them? That "Their bodies are much lighter than they appear." [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 13:11, September 14, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::Honestly MLSS's Hammer Bro looks more like a normal Hammer Bro hunched over (and there was also Dry Bones and Fighter Flies having weird designs, along with whatever was going on with Bowser's overworld sprites in Western releases). I'd say the "lighter than it looks" note seems like an intentional subversion of the enemy it resembles. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:19, September 14, 2024 (EDT) | ::Honestly MLSS's Hammer Bro looks more like a normal Hammer Bro hunched over (and there was also Dry Bones and Fighter Flies having weird designs, along with whatever was going on with Bowser's overworld sprites in Western releases). I'd say the "lighter than it looks" note seems like an intentional subversion of the enemy it resembles. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:19, September 14, 2024 (EDT) | ||
