Editing Talk:Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)

I'm not sure, but when I was fighting Bonetail either a Life Mushroom revived both my partner and then Mario or I had two Shrooms. Do you know if they can revive more than one? {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}

You must've had 2 because they can only revive once. {{User:Yoshi104/sig}}

man thats just a copy from the 1-Up Mushroom.It has almost the same effect on the player but it was though different.-Club Penguin-

==Split [[Life Shroom]] to [[Life Shroom]] and [[Life Mushroom]]==
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Those are two different types of mushroom: in RPGs (and SPM) they don't let Mario die, refilling just 5 HP, while in 3D games they adding 3 pieces of health, giving Mario second chance so easy. When it'll be splitted I'll try to unstub it with info and stuff.

'''Proposer''': {{User|SWFlash}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 27, 23:59

====Support====
#{{User|SWFlash}} Per me
#{{User|Yoshiwaker47}} I agree that they are 2 different things.
#{{User|WigglerWhoopin'Warrior135}} Per all.
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Yep, two different things. Zero signing out.
#{{User|New Super Mario}} Per Yoshiwaker47
#{{User|Phoenix}} I agree 100%, they even look different.
#{{User|Redstar}} The article is much too cluttered. Splitting the two will allow more focus for both items, which are clearly different enough to warrant it.
#{{User|Mikiuz}} Per all
#{{User|Laikue}} Per Redstar
#{{User|Yoshi's Island}} Per all. Two different things.

====Oppose====
#{{user|Tucayo}} - No, they are the same thing, just with different effects. If that is your logic, then by it, we should split [[Mushroom]] into many pages for every game where it has a different effect? You even contradict yourself in [[Talk:Smile Meter]]!! Also, this is inconsistency. 
#{{User|Yoshigalaxy2}} What I think we should do, is make one single pages about mushrooms. Just put sections about certain types of mushrooms. So what if the page is long? More info the better, right?
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Per Tucky.
#{{User|Baby Mario Bloops}} - I understand that I'm going against my own grains ([[Talk:Ultra Shroom|here]]) with siding with the oppose, but there are many reasons why. If we do split this, than we have to split all the different mushroom articles that have different effects. We would have to make the Super Mushroom (M&L), Ultra Mushroom, and Max Mushroom pages again, and they were absolutely just stubs. This involves more than you think, and I don't want to have to redo all the hard I'd done. If you want proof, then look [[Talk:Mushroom|here]]. Doesn't that convince you enough to understand that it is too inconsistent and too much trouble (lots of problems definitely) to do this?
#{{User|Mario&Kirby180}} - No, as Tucayo said they are the same thing just with different outcomes. I oppose this split.
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Why is this being split for the same reason we are merging Smile Meter with Health Meter? I mean, these are both just life mushrooms, just like Smile Meter and Health Meters are just health meters. Yes, these mushrooms have different effects, but the Smile and Health Meter are not quite the same either. They look different, are replenished differently, and they lose damage a little differently. It's not consistent to have these split while those health meters are merged.

====Comments====
Tucayo: Wait, Life Shrooms and Life Mushrooms are two totally different items despite similar sounding names. One appears in an RPG game where it revives you after you have fallen. The other appears in Super Mario Galaxy and adds three health to your total vitality. The two don't look like each other at all if you don't count the obvious Mushroom-looking shape. We can use the "Not to be confused by" template for Life Shroom and Life Mushroom. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
:Mushrooms are used to restore HP in SMRPG, while in the Mario Kart series it gives you a boost. And they don't look like each other at all, but despite that, they are in the same article. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 02:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't we just have one page titled "Life 'Shroom (Super Mario RPG)" and one titled "Life Mushroom (Super Mario Galaxy)" to clarify...?
{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 03:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Weird, someone (probably [[User:Yoshitanooki128|Yoshitanooki128]]) has already splitted them without waiting of 27 dec, should I close the proposal? {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
:Reverted edits. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

At Tucayo's vote: there's a difference here, in that the Life Shroom and Life Mushroom have different effects AND different looks. And this isn't mentioned, but they have different names in most versions too. Life Meter and Health Meter have the same role, and the Mushrooom and "Turbo" Mushroom have the same look. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 16:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Not the SMRPG mushroom, that one looks different. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 16:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:It looks more like a real-life mushroom, but it still has a red cap with white spots. As for the M&LSS Mushroom, it just has inverted colors. The only link between the Life Shroom and the Life Mushroom is that they're part of the Mushroom family, and give health back (which is a trait shared by most Mushrooms anyway). [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 17:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::Some of the RPG ones are yellow, they are still a mushroom, yes, but they don't look anything like the Mario Party mushrooms, not even do the same thing. Yet, they are in the same article. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 17:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah... Anyway, the Life Shroom and Life Mushroom have different look, different roles, and different names in most versions, so it's not exactly likely they are the same. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 17:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Ok, if that is the logic, then SWFlash is still contradicting himself, and both his TPPs can be opposed because they are inconsistent. --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 17:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::The thing is, the Life Meter and Heart Meter have the same role, unlike the Life Shroom and the Life Mushroom. But this is my twisted logic talking here, so I'll just leave these proposals alone. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 17:39, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

SWFlash, I don't think you realized that you are proposing to split this for the same reason you want to merge [[Smile Meter]] with [[Health Meter]]. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}
:I propose this proposal be changed to something along the lines of "Split [[Life Shroom]] into [[Life Shroom]] and <font color=blue>Life Shroom (Mario Galaxy series)</font>" because "Life Shroom" and "Life Mushroom" are synonymous. A shortened version of a name does not make it a different thing - putting the difference in brackets is what changes it. Other than that, these two items have very different effects. {{User|Marioguy1}}