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It's been called "Course" in most Mario games except ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'' and ''[[Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3]]''. Those and the ''Donkey Kong'' series are the only times it's been called level. | It's been called "Course" in most Mario games except ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'' and ''[[Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3]]''. Those and the ''Donkey Kong'' series are the only times it's been called level. | ||
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Why do we even need this page? It just regurgitates information found on other pages, and really nothing beyond that. Therefore, I propose that we delete this page, or at the very least move the information somewhere else, such as the [[MarioWiki:Glossary|Glossary]]. | Why do we even need this page? It just regurgitates information found on other pages, and really nothing beyond that. Therefore, I propose that we delete this page, or at the very least move the information somewhere else, such as the [[MarioWiki:Glossary|Glossary]]. | ||
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== Merge to the [[MarioWiki:Glossary|Glossary]] == | == Merge to the [[MarioWiki:Glossary|Glossary]] == | ||
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Yes, I know I proposed something about this before, but what I ''was'' proposing didn't take into account the fact that "Level" never appears in the glossary. Therefore, I propose that we merge all relevant information on this page to the glossary, and leave this page behind as a redirect. | Yes, I know I proposed something about this before, but what I ''was'' proposing didn't take into account the fact that "Level" never appears in the glossary. Therefore, I propose that we merge all relevant information on this page to the glossary, and leave this page behind as a redirect. | ||
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== Merge to the Glossary, take 2 == | == Merge to the Glossary, take 2 == | ||
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Yup, I think we're finally ready for this to happen. | Yup, I think we're finally ready for this to happen. | ||
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Overall, we do not prefer colloquial, outdated, or secondary terms to current official names, and I see no reason to exempt the concept of a platforming course from our naming policies. Please tell me if I am missing anything, or if I should try to make this into a proper new proposal. [[User:AgentMuffin|AgentMuffin]] ([[User talk:AgentMuffin|talk]]) 19:00, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | Overall, we do not prefer colloquial, outdated, or secondary terms to current official names, and I see no reason to exempt the concept of a platforming course from our naming policies. Please tell me if I am missing anything, or if I should try to make this into a proper new proposal. [[User:AgentMuffin|AgentMuffin]] ([[User talk:AgentMuffin|talk]]) 19:00, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | ||
:Strong support. The latest Mario game to use the term "level" was ''[[Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge]]'', 7 years ago, and that game comes from a series that has used inconsistent terminology such as "room" and "area" to refer to the concept of discrete, but interconnected, gameplay set-pieces. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 19:27, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | :Strong support. The latest Mario game to use the term "level" was ''[[Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge]]'', 7 years ago, and that game comes from a series that has used inconsistent terminology such as "room" and "area" to refer to the concept of discrete, but interconnected, gameplay set-pieces. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 19:27, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | ||
::I still think "level" is the best option especially for a gaming wiki. I don't have precise numbers but "level" is likely used way more across the wiki than "course". I think renaming this article to "course" is going to create pretty annoying piping and redirect issues when "level" is a far more familiar term (and it's far from a dated term). Not to mention, should we rename all the subcategories in [[:Category:Levels]], rename our various navigation templates (or parts of navigation templates) like {{tem|YIDS levels}}, rename our templates {{tem|level infobox}}, to reflect the new preferred naming scheme? Or do we just stop at article name and article content, where we create this discrepancy where we just semi-endorse the new term? Additionally, this assumes the scope is limited to the 2D ''Mario'' platformers; there's no guarantee that the gameplay elements are also called "courses" in other series such as ''Super Smash Bros.'', various Mario Sports games, or in Paper Mario, so do we apply "course" to those too? Or do we keep "course" just for 2D Mario levels? That's not going to be good for wiki editors, a lot of restructuring over relatively minor semantics, a lot of headache over the extent of how we should apply these changes. We do try to adhere to naming guidelines most of the time, but these are guidelines in the end, and I don't think these guidelines were written with generic, versatile terminology in mind. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:50, April 20, 2023 (EDT) | ::I still think "level" is the best option especially for a gaming wiki. I don't have precise numbers but "level" is likely used way more across the wiki than "course". I think renaming this article to "course" is going to create pretty annoying piping and redirect issues when "level" is a far more familiar term (and it's far from a dated term). Not to mention, should we rename all the subcategories in [[:Category:Levels]], rename our various navigation templates (or parts of navigation templates) like {{tem|YIDS levels}}, rename our templates {{tem|level infobox}}, to reflect the new preferred naming scheme? Or do we just stop at article name and article content, where we create this discrepancy where we just semi-endorse the new term? Additionally, this assumes the scope is limited to the 2D ''Mario'' platformers; there's no guarantee that the gameplay elements will are also called "courses" in other series such as ''Super Smash Bros.'', various Mario Sports games, or in Paper Mario, so do we apply "course" to those too? Or do we keep "course" just for 2D Mario levels? That's not going to be good for wiki editors, a lot of restructuring over relatively minor semantics, a lot of headache over the extent of how we should apply these changes. We do try to adhere to naming guidelines most of the time, but these are guidelines in the end, and I don't think these guidelines were written with generic, versatile terminology in mind. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:50, April 20, 2023 (EDT) | ||