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| SHOULD we have a link to Lemmy's Land on this page? I don't think so... {{User:3dejong/sig}} | | SHOULD we have a link to Lemmy's Land on this page? I don't think so... {{User:3dejong/sig}} |
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| somebody needs to upload sprites of lemmy of new super mario bros. wii {{User:GEX/Sig}} | | somebody needs to upload sprites of lemmy of new super mario bros. wii {{User:GEX/Sig}} |
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| You can't. New Super Mario Bros. Wii doesn't use sprites - it uses models. --Pyro [[File:M&LBIS Sergeant Guy.png|40px]] [[Shy Guy|TEH FEATURED?]] 17:25, 15 September 2012 (EDT) | | You can't. New Super Mario Bros. Wii doesn't use sprites - it uses models. --Pyro [[File:Unknown Shy Guy.PNG|40px]] [[Shy Guy|TEH FEATURED?]] 17:25, 15 September 2012 (EDT) |
| ==Lemmy in Mario Anime?== | | ==Lemmy in Mario Anime?== |
| Dude, Lemmy is nowhere to be found in The Mario Amada series. That should be removed. PS That was [[Iggy Koopa]] who appeared.{{unsigned|JohnRoberts}} | | Dude, Lemmy is nowhere to be found in The Mario Amada series. That should be removed. PS That was [[Iggy Koopa]] who appeared.{{unsigned|JohnRoberts}} |
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| Thanks to Miyamoto's retcon, the Koopalings we once knew are a mystery and "no longer bowser's kids". Since they had a re-design, and Iggy is now taller, are Iggy and Lemmy still twins? From SMB3 onwards they were pretty clearly twins. Does this still stand? | | Thanks to Miyamoto's retcon, the Koopalings we once knew are a mystery and "no longer bowser's kids". Since they had a re-design, and Iggy is now taller, are Iggy and Lemmy still twins? From SMB3 onwards they were pretty clearly twins. Does this still stand? |
| :They have never been stated to be twins in the games, only in the DIC cartoons! In the games they had similar hairstyle, but this doesn't mean that they were twins. By the way, Iggy was since the beginning taller than Lemmy, see [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Koopalings7.jpg the first official illustration] and [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Koopalings_MandLSS.PNG Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga sprites]!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:11, 29 March 2016 (EDT) | | :They have never been twins in the games, only in the DIC cartoons! In the games they had similar hairstyle, but this doesn't mean that they were twins. By the way, Iggy was since the beginning taller than Lemmy, see [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Koopalings7.jpg the first official illustration] and [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Koopalings_MandLSS.PNG Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga sprites]!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:11, 29 March 2016 (EDT) |
| ::Iggy also has a different face (with the jutting out teeth), a slightly different pattern on the hair, and a different build from Lemmy even from the start, so the possibility of them being at least identical twins may not be supported. Still, just by hairstyle alone, it seems that the resemblance to either other is enough, especially when the Koopalings tend to have drastically different hairstyles from each other, so it's understandable that the cartoons would consider them twins, assuming they're identical. I don't think the games ever explicitly contradicted the notion that they're twins, but it's not like they confirmed it either. Yeah, there was a major redesign, but it doesn't necessarily contradict the cartoons, seeing that [[Tiny Kong]] also got a drastic redesign and is still considered Dixie Kong's ''younger'' sibling. We still have to mention the twin relationship in the article regardless Miyamoto's retcon (which doesn't necessarily contradict that they're siblings either; for instance, they may be related orphans), the drastic redesign, or the games' stances (and lack of thereof) on it. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:23, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
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| :::Since in the DIC cartoons' section the fact that they are twins is stated, at least in the pages of Iggy and Lemmy, I wouldn't add such information elsewhere. If you think the Koopalings' page need it also in the DIC cartoons's section (it is already stated in the ''Birth order'' section) I might add it there. Regarding game materials, we have the Nintendo Power Super Mario Bros. 3 guide (that states that Larry is the youngest and Ludwig the eldest), the North American version of ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'' (that states that Larry is the youngest) and ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'', in whose German version Larry calls Ludwig ''bigger brother'', while in the French version Larry calls Ludwig ''little brother'' (but this might be just a sign of familiarity, as the actual term used, ''frérot'', can be used with this purpose). I don't know if other games-related materials with the Koopalings' birth order exists.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:19, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::For the most part, you're right, there is really no need to force the affirmative or negative because it would simply be off-topic. As for the sources, even without those sources, the retcon wouldn't contradict it at all (as I said, one example would be that they're orphaned siblings; doesn't necessarily mean they are, but it's an example to show how the retcon doesn't change their relationship, as I said previously). Now we know the sources, they outright states that they're siblings, we know for sure we don't have to change anything on that respect. With context in mind, I think it's likelier that "frérot" would be just for familiarity, but providing the whole sentence with that word and any relevant details would help. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:23, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
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| :::::I'll gladly provide more information: the word appear at the end of the introductory dialogue in the battle against Ludwig and Larry, here is the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yQht3Days&t=984 French version], with the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UdSYJQKHGI&t=2217 English version] as comparison. On the other hand, the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brmI7Jc_9nc German version] uses the "bigger brother" term in another context, when Larry replies to Ludwig after the latter draws one of his cards (thus it is stressed much more that Ludwig is Larry's bigger brother, as this term is actually used even in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u5Jyi3-G_Y&t=1145 second battle]). Of course, you're right, the retcon was never about the Koopalings being siblings (even though apparently since ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' in the Japanese versions of newly released games, including the Japanese version of ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'', there isn't any term that suggests that they are siblings).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:25, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
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| == PMCS battle ==
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| The attack deals 163 damage.
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| You should have at least 164 health at the attack.
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| And if he dies, 5 or 6 more slurp guys slurps up the color out of mario BEFORE the words "GAME OVER" appear...
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| And (Slurp guys knock down the door) if you use the (starts to slurp up the colors in the room) Disco ball and the Ice pick in order, You can deal some serious damage to... HEY! STOP THAT!!! (defeats slurp guys off-screen)
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| As I was saying, you can deal serious damage to lemmy after the ball is popped, allowing the win.
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| --[[Special:Contributions/107.178.38.229|107.178.38.229]] 19:07, 25 October 2016 (EDT)
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| == Personality ==
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| Why does he throw bomb if he preffer go to circus than commit crimes? --[[Special:Contributions/90.113.167.250|90.113.167.250]] 08:41, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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| :I don't knw if the discussion belongs to this page, but in my opinion you shouldn't try to find much consistency in the personality of the characters of the Mario universe - we are talking about someone who was a son of Bowser that is now considered one of his minions, after all. In this case, I think the reason is likely tied to the gameplay - using bombs allowed for the battle to be different with respect to the classic bouncing circus balls. Anyway, the bombs at least still have decorations that reminds of the circus and of Lemmy's childlike nature.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:57, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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| == Shoudl we consider the introductory sentence of ''Paper Mario: Color Splash''? ==
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| Paper Mario: Color Splash'' has a well written introductory sentence by Lemmy:
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| “Thank you, thank you! It is I, Lemmy, the greatest and most humble illusionist in all the world! The things you’re about to see may shock you. They might astound you. But they’ll definitely impress you.”
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| The reason why I hadn't considered yet as main quote for this page until now is that, much like many other Koopalings-related aspects of ''Paper Mario: Color Splash'' we never really saw Lemmy as an illusionist in the other material, with even the bios confirming his main trait is rather balancing on the ball. Should we consider the ''Paper Mario: Color Splash'' quote as main quote even if we're risking to end up primarily presenting a depiction that is actually found exclusively in one series or, even worse, just in one game? The ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'' quote was chosen because it shows Lemmy's childish traits, which were shown in various other games.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:16, 10 February 2019 (EST)
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| ==Hip's voice==
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| Are we absolutely, positively, 100% sure that Stuart Stone was Hip in The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 rather than Tara Strong? Because Tara Strong is credited as Hip everywhere else and also for the Super Mario World cartoon and the voices for Hip and Hop are exactly the same. Plus, voice actors tend to be miscredited a lot. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:19, December 6, 2021 (EST)
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| ==Main Quote==
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| Is it possible to change Lemmy's quote back to the Paper Jam quote? The quote from Color Splash depicts his traits from one game whereas the Paper Jam one shows his most prominent trait. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:53, January 5, 2022 (EST)
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| :As the one who changed the quote in the first place, I thought the one in Paper Jam was a bit vague (especially when you don't know the context of it). The quote now seems more like a general thing to me. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 09:52, January 5, 2022 (EST)
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