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| somebody needs to upload sprites of lemmy of new super mario bros. wii {{User:GEX/Sig}} | | somebody needs to upload sprites of lemmy of new super mario bros. wii {{User:GEX/Sig}} |
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| You can't. New Super Mario Bros. Wii doesn't use sprites - it uses models. --Pyro [[File:M&LBIS Sergeant Guy.png|40px]] [[Shy Guy|TEH FEATURED?]] 17:25, 15 September 2012 (EDT) | | You can't. New Super Mario Bros. Wii doesn't use sprites - it uses models. --Pyro [[File:Unknown Shy Guy.PNG|40px]] [[Shy Guy|TEH FEATURED?]] 17:25, 15 September 2012 (EDT) |
| ==Lemmy in Mario Anime?== | | ==Lemmy in Mario Anime?== |
| Dude, Lemmy is nowhere to be found in The Mario Amada series. That should be removed. PS That was [[Iggy Koopa]] who appeared.{{unsigned|JohnRoberts}} | | Dude, Lemmy is nowhere to be found in The Mario Amada series. That should be removed. PS That was [[Iggy Koopa]] who appeared.{{unsigned|JohnRoberts}} |
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| Yeah I see it now, it definitely is yellow. I wanted to make sure because his airship in game has it appear in a light greenish color when it appears at the roof of the castle before entering the cannon (I was seeing this in on my clear 1080p HD TV). I think the resolution gives it that color. But the other images does clearly show it yellow so I'm guessing it is indeed yellow. [[User:Smasher345|Smasher345]] 20:01, 20 December 2012 (EST) | | Yeah I see it now, it definitely is yellow. I wanted to make sure because his airship in game has it appear in a light greenish color when it appears at the roof of the castle before entering the cannon (I was seeing this in on my clear 1080p HD TV). I think the resolution gives it that color. But the other images does clearly show it yellow so I'm guessing it is indeed yellow. [[User:Smasher345|Smasher345]] 20:01, 20 December 2012 (EST) |
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| ==Misinformation?==
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| It's been official stated that the Koopalings aren't Bowser's children so shouldn't the description for that picture from Mario is Missing saying "Lemmy and Wendy witnessing their father's capture of Mario." (and anything else related to the mention of Bowser being his and any other Koopaling's father) be edited? [[User:Touma101|Touma101]] ([[User talk:Touma101|talk]]) 02:26, 23 February 2014 (EST) | | It's been official stated that the Koopalings aren't Bowser's children so shouldn't the description for that picture from Mario is Missing saying "Lemmy and Wendy witnessing their father's capture of Mario." (and anything else related to the mention of Bowser being his and any other Koopaling's father) be edited? [[User:Touma101|Touma101]] ([[User talk:Touma101|talk]]) 02:26, 23 February 2014 (EST) |
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| :No cause at the time, Bowser was their father. Anything prior to the interview should remain the same. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
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| ::It's a retcon, and it's not like the caption information is important or anything, so we should remove it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:05, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
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| No opinions, then? [[User:Peanutjon|Peanutjon]] ([[User talk:Peanutjon|talk]]) 20:36, 26 June 2014 (EDT) | | No opinions, then? [[User:Peanutjon|Peanutjon]] ([[User talk:Peanutjon|talk]]) 20:36, 26 June 2014 (EDT) |
| :Overlooked it. Anyway, it shouldn't be changed for Nintendo media. Nintendo [[wikipedia:Retroactive continuity|retconned]] the Koopalings, so I think it's a appropriate to revise when needed. The Mario show still has the Koopalings refer to Bowser as "dad", so we document on it. Overall, though, the article should reflect Nintendo's statement and state exceptions when needed. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:29, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
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| ::I... actually didn't understand most of that, but I'm guessing that you were saying that we should refer to it as "boss" because that is the current story... it did seem to imply that. If that is true...
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| ::We should probably change Peach and Galoomba's pages too, since they refer to the characters as "Toadstool" and "Goomba" in the games where that was the current story. [[User:Peanutjon|Peanutjon]] ([[User talk:Peanutjon|talk]]) 22:29, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
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| :::Nintendo only said their "current" story is that they're his kids iirc, and wiki policy is actually to use the terms appropriate for the release - ie. "Toadstool" for earlier games, and yes, familial terms for earlier Koopaling appearances. Granted, superfluous uses of "dad" could easily be replaced with "Bowser" to make things like captions neutral to avoid these situations, but systematically retconning all the old family appearances to employment is going too far. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:22, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
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| ==Weird bug in this article?==
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| Either there's something wrong with my computer or it's this article. For some reason, the table for "Game appearances" section appears in "Names in other languages" section, and I can't seem to fix this. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 14:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
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| :It's because the table wasn't properly closed; because of that, it ended up migrating to the next table that ''did'' have a close tag, which happened to be the other languages table. Toad already fixed it. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
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| == Italics ==
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| For some reason most of the page is in italics. Even the blue words on top of all pages are italic. I looked and saw it happened after the most recent edit. --{{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 00:41, 2 February 2015 (EST)
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| :Thanks, I fixed it - one of the header italics was left open by the last edit, causing the issue. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:14, 2 February 2015 (EST)
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| == Only koopaling without colored irises? ==
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| isnt this false? ludwig and morton dont have colored irises either (unless you count the white as irises...) and we cant even see roys eyes, and, thoguh its pretty probable, we cant confirm the blue rings in iggys glasses are his irises either.
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| :Regarding Morton and Ludwig, you can see the official artworks for New Super Mario Bros. U here:[http://www.mariowiki.com/File:MortonNSMBU.png Morton] and [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:LudwigNSMBU.png Ludwig]. When you look at them at full resolution, you can see dark grey irises surrounding the pupils. Regarding Iggy, I think we can be sure that these blue rings are not the glasses' swirls typical of Japanese culture because [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:IggyKoopa2_SMB3.png artwork for Iggy in Super Mario World] showed the actual swirls, while [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:SMWIggyKoopa.png other artwork] showed us that these swirls were not the way Iggy's eyes were depicted in that game. So I think it is safe to assume that these blue rings are not just swirls coming from the glasses. Only Roy is left, because as far as I know we don't have any artwork of him without sunglasses, however this doesn't mean that he has no irises.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:44, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
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| huh, never noticed that before, cool. no that doesnt mean he doesnt have irises, but it also doesnt mean he does, so we cant securely say lemmy is the only one without colored irises, since roy might, or might not, have colored irises either. the trivia could stay, but we should at least add that we cant be sure about roy.
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| :Well, I now rephrased that part to be more specific, since as of now I don't think we have artwork of Roy without sunglasses.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:07, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
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| ==The 30th anniversary books' bios of Lemmy Koopa==
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| Here are Lemmy's bios from the 30th anniversary books. He's called レミー in those books, without surname like the other Koopalings I have reported so far.<br />
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| '''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'''<br />
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| クッパ七人衆のひとり。<span class=explain title="こ">小</span><span class=explain title="がら">柄</span>な体型で、玉乗りが得意。<br />
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| ''One of the Koopalings. With a petite body, balancing on the ball is his forte.''<br />
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| ''Boss of World 6. Attacks creating big bouncing balls with magic.''<br />
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| バニラドームのボス。ダミー人形とともに土管から顔を出す。<br />
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| ''Boss of Vanilla Dome. Comes out of the pipe along with dummy dolls.''<br />
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| W3のボス。バウンドボールに乗り、バウンドボールを次々と出してくる。<br />
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| ''Boss of World 3. Balances on a bouncing balls while bouncing balls come out [of his wand] one after another.''<br />
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| w[[File:FireFlowericon.png|x18px]]のボス。魔法でバウンドボールを出してくる。<br />
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| ''Boss of World [[File:FireFlowericon.png|x18px]]. Using magic, bouncing balls come out [of his wand].''<br />
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| ドングリへいげんのボス。バクダンを投げて攻撃してくる。<br />
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| ''Boss of Acorn Plains. Attacks throwing a bomb.''<br />
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| カラフルなモヒカン頭が特徴。クッパ7人衆の中では小柄だが、その実力はあなどれない。<br />
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| ''Characterized by a colorful mohawk. He is petite among the Koopalings, but talented and not to be taken lightly.''<br />
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| Here it is, I translated 玉乗り as walking on the ball even though I'm not 100% sure this is the right translation, also the SMMB bio translation needs to be checked in the last sentence. Of course corrections and suggestions are more than welcome!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:49, 14 December 2015 (EST)
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| :[http://jisho.org/search/%E7%8E%89%E4%B9%97%E3%82%8A Jisho.org translates 玉乗り as "balancing on a ball".] I recommend using that site if you've got trouble with some words. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 09:05, 17 December 2015 (EST)
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| ::Thanks a lot for the tip and for the suggested translation! I updated the translations accordingly!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:05, 17 December 2015 (EST)
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| == Are Iggy and Lemmy still twins? ==
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| Thanks to Miyamoto's retcon, the Koopalings we once knew are a mystery and "no longer bowser's kids". Since they had a re-design, and Iggy is now taller, are Iggy and Lemmy still twins? From SMB3 onwards they were pretty clearly twins. Does this still stand?
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| :They have never been stated to be twins in the games, only in the DIC cartoons! In the games they had similar hairstyle, but this doesn't mean that they were twins. By the way, Iggy was since the beginning taller than Lemmy, see [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Koopalings7.jpg the first official illustration] and [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Koopalings_MandLSS.PNG Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga sprites]!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:11, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Iggy also has a different face (with the jutting out teeth), a slightly different pattern on the hair, and a different build from Lemmy even from the start, so the possibility of them being at least identical twins may not be supported. Still, just by hairstyle alone, it seems that the resemblance to either other is enough, especially when the Koopalings tend to have drastically different hairstyles from each other, so it's understandable that the cartoons would consider them twins, assuming they're identical. I don't think the games ever explicitly contradicted the notion that they're twins, but it's not like they confirmed it either. Yeah, there was a major redesign, but it doesn't necessarily contradict the cartoons, seeing that [[Tiny Kong]] also got a drastic redesign and is still considered Dixie Kong's ''younger'' sibling. We still have to mention the twin relationship in the article regardless Miyamoto's retcon (which doesn't necessarily contradict that they're siblings either; for instance, they may be related orphans), the drastic redesign, or the games' stances (and lack of thereof) on it. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:23, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
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| :::Since in the DIC cartoons' section the fact that they are twins is stated, at least in the pages of Iggy and Lemmy, I wouldn't add such information elsewhere. If you think the Koopalings' page need it also in the DIC cartoons's section (it is already stated in the ''Birth order'' section) I might add it there. Regarding game materials, we have the Nintendo Power Super Mario Bros. 3 guide (that states that Larry is the youngest and Ludwig the eldest), the North American version of ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'' (that states that Larry is the youngest) and ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'', in whose German version Larry calls Ludwig ''bigger brother'', while in the French version Larry calls Ludwig ''little brother'' (but this might be just a sign of familiarity, as the actual term used, ''frérot'', can be used with this purpose). I don't know if other games-related materials with the Koopalings' birth order exists.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:19, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::For the most part, you're right, there is really no need to force the affirmative or negative because it would simply be off-topic. As for the sources, even without those sources, the retcon wouldn't contradict it at all (as I said, one example would be that they're orphaned siblings; doesn't necessarily mean they are, but it's an example to show how the retcon doesn't change their relationship, as I said previously). Now we know the sources, they outright states that they're siblings, we know for sure we don't have to change anything on that respect. With context in mind, I think it's likelier that "frérot" would be just for familiarity, but providing the whole sentence with that word and any relevant details would help. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:23, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
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| :::::I'll gladly provide more information: the word appear at the end of the introductory dialogue in the battle against Ludwig and Larry, here is the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yQht3Days&t=984 French version], with the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UdSYJQKHGI&t=2217 English version] as comparison. On the other hand, the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brmI7Jc_9nc German version] uses the "bigger brother" term in another context, when Larry replies to Ludwig after the latter draws one of his cards (thus it is stressed much more that Ludwig is Larry's bigger brother, as this term is actually used even in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u5Jyi3-G_Y&t=1145 second battle]). Of course, you're right, the retcon was never about the Koopalings being siblings (even though apparently since ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' in the Japanese versions of newly released games, including the Japanese version of ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'', there isn't any term that suggests that they are siblings).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:25, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
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| And if he dies, 5 or 6 more slurp guys slurps up the color out of mario BEFORE the words "GAME OVER" appear...
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| And (Slurp guys knock down the door) if you use the (starts to slurp up the colors in the room) Disco ball and the Ice pick in order, You can deal some serious damage to... HEY! STOP THAT!!! (defeats slurp guys off-screen)
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| --[[Special:Contributions/107.178.38.229|107.178.38.229]] 19:07, 25 October 2016 (EDT)
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| Why does he throw bomb if he preffer go to circus than commit crimes? --[[Special:Contributions/90.113.167.250|90.113.167.250]] 08:41, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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| :I don't knw if the discussion belongs to this page, but in my opinion you shouldn't try to find much consistency in the personality of the characters of the Mario universe - we are talking about someone who was a son of Bowser that is now considered one of his minions, after all. In this case, I think the reason is likely tied to the gameplay - using bombs allowed for the battle to be different with respect to the classic bouncing circus balls. Anyway, the bombs at least still have decorations that reminds of the circus and of Lemmy's childlike nature.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:57, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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| == Shoudl we consider the introductory sentence of ''Paper Mario: Color Splash''? ==
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| Paper Mario: Color Splash'' has a well written introductory sentence by Lemmy:
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| “Thank you, thank you! It is I, Lemmy, the greatest and most humble illusionist in all the world! The things you’re about to see may shock you. They might astound you. But they’ll definitely impress you.”
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| The reason why I hadn't considered yet as main quote for this page until now is that, much like many other Koopalings-related aspects of ''Paper Mario: Color Splash'' we never really saw Lemmy as an illusionist in the other material, with even the bios confirming his main trait is rather balancing on the ball. Should we consider the ''Paper Mario: Color Splash'' quote as main quote even if we're risking to end up primarily presenting a depiction that is actually found exclusively in one series or, even worse, just in one game? The ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'' quote was chosen because it shows Lemmy's childish traits, which were shown in various other games.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:16, 10 February 2019 (EST)
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| ==Hip's voice==
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| Are we absolutely, positively, 100% sure that Stuart Stone was Hip in The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 rather than Tara Strong? Because Tara Strong is credited as Hip everywhere else and also for the Super Mario World cartoon and the voices for Hip and Hop are exactly the same. Plus, voice actors tend to be miscredited a lot. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:19, December 6, 2021 (EST)
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| Is it possible to change Lemmy's quote back to the Paper Jam quote? The quote from Color Splash depicts his traits from one game whereas the Paper Jam one shows his most prominent trait. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:53, January 5, 2022 (EST)
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| :As the one who changed the quote in the first place, I thought the one in Paper Jam was a bit vague (especially when you don't know the context of it). The quote now seems more like a general thing to me. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 09:52, January 5, 2022 (EST)
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