Editing Talk:Launch Star

== Split {{fake link|Launch Star (move)}} from [[Launch Star]] ==

{{TPP}}
These need to be split. One is an object, while the other is a move that, while based on the object, is a completely different thing otherwise. They also don't share the same Japanese name - the object is named "Star Ring" (スターリング, ''Sutā Ringu''), while the move is named "Galaxy Jump" (ギャラクシージャンプ, ''Gyarakushī Janpu'') - all the more reason they should be separate pages. With the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_51#Smash_Bros._Articles:_What_Stays_and_What_Goes.3F|proposal]] to merge the relevant ''Smash'' articles and keeping ''Mario''-related special moves separate (while merging the non-''Mario'' ones) being part of it, this split can be done.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Mario jc}}<br>
'''Deadline''': June 28, 2018, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{user|Mario jc}} Per my proposal.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I agree, as several other moves are similarly split from the subject, such as [[Mechakoopa (move)]] and [[Peach Parasol (move)]]. I also feel it makes sense since the object itself will appear as an item in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''.

===Oppose===

===Comments===
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 == Split {{fake link|Launch Star (move)}} from [[Launch Star]] ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|split}}
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 These need to be split. One is an object, while the other is a move that, while based on the object, is a completely different thing otherwise. They also don't share the same Japanese name - the object is named "Star Ring" (スターリング, ''Sutā Ringu''), while the move is named "Galaxy Jump" (ギャラクシージャンプ, ''Gyarakushī Janpu'') - all the more reason they should be separate pages. With the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_51#Smash_Bros._Articles:_What_Stays_and_What_Goes.3F|proposal]] to merge the relevant ''Smash'' articles and keeping ''Mario''-related special moves separate (while merging the non-''Mario'' ones) being part of it, this split can be done.
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 ===Support===
-#{{user|Mario jc}} Per my proposal and TheFlameChomp.
+#{{user|Mario jc}} Per my proposal.
 #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I agree, as several other moves are similarly split from the subject, such as [[Mechakoopa (move)]] and [[Peach Parasol (move)]]. I also feel it makes sense since the object itself will appear as an item in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''.
-#{{User|YoshiEgg1990}} Per all.
-#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} This should just be for the item, per all. Also [[Toad (move)]] is separate, so it seems like it's only this one that's remained together.
-#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Couldn't be more clear-cut.
-#{{User|Alex95}} - I thought this was a separate thing already. Per all.
-#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per all.
 ===Oppose===
 ===Comments===
-I'm assuming {{fake link|Launch Star (item)}} would also be created at some point, due to the new item in ''Ultimate''? I see it's already on the main Launch Star page, but would that split make sense? Unlike the Launch Stars of ''Galaxy'', this one is deployable. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 10:51, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
-:It'd probably use the game identifier instead, though, since it acts as an object once placed. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:36, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
-::Game identifier would be confusing, since Launch Star (move) and Launch Star (item) are both in ''Ultimate''. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:38, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
-::We'd use "(item)" because that's how ''Smash'' always refers to them in-game, regardless of whether they become an object or not. But what makes the item different enough to be split? They're essentially the same thing, like [[Bullet Bill]], [[Firebar]] and [[Freezie]] and many other ''Mario'' items that cover both ''Mario'' and ''Smash'' appearances in a single article; it seems unnecessary to have them separate. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:38, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
-:::Yeah, that's mainly why I was asking, if a split was necessary in the first place. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:44, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
-::::Still though, Fire Bars are an object, while the ones in ''Smash'' are items, that does not change the fact that in their initial appearance that is also mimicked by the grand majority of their appearances, they are an object. This should be treated the same way. Though technically, the original Launch Star object would remain identifier-less, since the move is derivative of it and as such less important technically speaking, like how [[Fryguy]] lacks an identifier. Sorry, got a little rambley there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:53, 14 June 2018 (EDT)