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| ==Merge [[Lakitu Travel]] into [[List of Implied Organizations]]== | | ==Merge Lakitu Travel into [[List of Implied Organizations]]== |
| {{Settled TPP}} | | {{TPP}} |
| {{Proposal outcome|passed|12-9|merge lakitu travel into list of implied organizations}}
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| '''Proposer:''' {{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}}<br> | | '''Proposer:''' {{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}}<br> |
| '''Deadline:''' <s>September 1, 2010, 23:59</s> <s>September 8, 2010, 23:59</s> September 15, 2010 | | '''Deadline:''' August 25, 2010, 23:59 |
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| I propose that we merge this because all that was mentioned from it was by a Lakitu and the organization itself made no appearance other than being mentioned, so I say this deserves a merge. | | I propose that we merge this because all that was mentioned from it was by a Lakitu and the organization itself made no appearance other than being mentioned, so I say this deserves a merge. |
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| #{{User|FireBabyLuigi11}} per Booderdash. But this is on the edge of choosing the merge or if I go against it. | | #{{User|FireBabyLuigi11}} per Booderdash. But this is on the edge of choosing the merge or if I go against it. |
| #{{User|Mr bones}} Per BLOF | | #{{User|Mr bones}} Per BLOF |
| #{{User|Frostyfireyoshi}} One in-game reference, never appears again, unlike Goom University. Merge. Or possibly switch this with GU.
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| #{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! What are the chances for them to appear in another game; nothing more can be added. Per all. Zero signing out.
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| #{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Who knows if that Lakitu is making a joke? If that Lakitu was dressed up, I may have opposed, but this Lakitu is just like any other one. No one can prove if this organization exists or not, so I think it's better off as an implied organization.
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| #{{User|Cosmic Blue Toad}} Per Baby Mario Bloops, CosmicRedToad, and Edofenrir.
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| #{{User|CosmicRedToad}} It says, "Implied Organizations". Have we seen the headquarters of this organization? Have we proof that this organization exists? We have proof of a ''possible'' employee, but we don't know whether he really is one or not. Also, per Edofenrir.
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| #{{User|Edofenrir}} - The organization seems to not exist outside of that one quote. It is highly possible that the Lakitu was kidding. If there is an advertisement for the company somewhere in the game, or a logo, or pretty much anything that makes it clear it is existing I will change my mind, but under this circumstances, I cannot.
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| #{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
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| #{{User|Baby Mario Bloops}} - Once, only one member shown, mentioned, so all those prove that it is implied. When it is only mentioned in a statement, it is implied, and there is no real evidence besides that lakitu that the company even exists!
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| ===Leave it alone=== | | ===Leave it alone=== |
| #{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Same reason we shouldn't merge 5-Volt. They are not implied, they are seen. The Lakitu works for them, therefore it is definitely a real organisation. And come on guys, List of Implied Organsisations isn't where you dump stuff you consider to be unimportant. | | #{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Same reason we shouldn't merge 5-Volt. They are not implied, they are seen. The Lakitu works for them, therefore it is definitely a real organisation. |
| #{{User|Superboo922}} Per MrCD. Technically it is seen, not implied. | | #{{User|Superboo922}} Per MrCD. Technically it is seen, not implied. |
| #{{User|Tomz123}}Per all | | #{{User|Tomz123}}Per all |
| #{{User|FourPaperHeroes}}Per all | | #{{User|FourPaperHeroes}}Per all |
| #{{User|Homestar Runner}} Per all. | | #{{User|BluePikminKong497}} Per all |
| #{{User|Mario jc}} Per MrConcreteDonkey and Superboo922.
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| #{{User|Fuzzipede27}} Per all.
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| #{{User|mrblob1012}} yeah implied means it might not be real by this is real
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| #{{User|Ralphfan}} It's really impossible to tell if Lakitu Travel is real or not. I say keep it as is.
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| ===Comments=== | | ===Comments=== |
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| :::Guys, you're going off topic. You can argue about this in the article's respective talk pages. Now, we're supposed to be dealing with merging Lakitu Travel with List of Implied Organizations. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} | | :::Guys, you're going off topic. You can argue about this in the article's respective talk pages. Now, we're supposed to be dealing with merging Lakitu Travel with List of Implied Organizations. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} |
| :::: ...... Have you read our conversation at all? We're talking about putting Lakitu travel in there. We're not off topic. We're just putting more examples in with it. Anyways, Im on your side. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :::::Yes, I read it. At first, you and MCD were listing examples and debating about them, but then, you guys go into a debate whether to leave Bean Bean Air and Goom University in the list or not, which has nothing to do with Lakitu Travel. Yeah, I agree with you too in that debate, but that debate shouldn't belong in Lakitu Travel discussion page. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
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| Oh..., well then I was sidetracked, my point is that Lakitu travel is unimportant and thats why it belongs in there. Thats all I have to say. I've got to go now anyways. MCDs point is that if it WASn'T implied it deserves its own articles, which is not true. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :It was not implied, you say you have completed PiT over 20 times and still can't remember whether Lakitu Travel existed? Implied means only hinted at existing, like if a little kid said "I wanna join the Mushroom Brigade!" then that would be implied. Implied Organisations is not for unimportant things, it's for things tha tare only hinted at existing, á la Beanbean Air; you're getting it mixed up. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| Even Lakitu Travel is hinted at existing. I mean, have we ever seen it in the game? NO! We didn't! We have only seen a lakitu.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
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| :Um, well, yes we see a Lakitu, but that Lakitu is an employee. It is not hinted at existing if it is mentioned and someone who works for it is seen. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| Brooklyn Plumbing School, Chippie Chipmunks we have only seen Mario in them as a member, However, the organizations were never seen! Alot of other organizations too, like Diamond Software, Feather Club for Crows, we have seen the mumbers, but not the organizations...{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
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| :Well, sometimes the employees are enough, and this is the case. I mean, come on, this isn't even a stub {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| Somtimes? And when sometimes? Also, those ain't no stubs neither! And what about Mushroom Wrestling Federation? The employee is present but it's in the LOIO(list of implied organizations)!{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
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| You have your priorties mixed up MCD. It does't matter if its not a stub. Its not important, and its never seen ingame and will never appear in a future game. If it does by a million to one odds, then we'll split but otherwise no. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :All of that does not matter anyway. The true point is that is is not implied, because implied means only hinted, and when mentioned by an employee that definitely means it exists, not only hinted. It does not matter if it is unimportant, nor if it is a stub, and definitely not if it will never appear again. The point is that IMPLIED organsitions are not where you can dump things that are unimportant and can't be merged into anything else. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| Why are you taking things so literal? On the WIKI it means unimportant. Its always been that since 2008. It doesn't mean hinted. It means an existing thing that has no importance to the mario universe like a single town hosipital in real life. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| Actually, Implied in this wiki means mentioned and not seen. And this is mentioned and '''not''' seen!--[[User:Mr bones|Mr bones]] 10:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
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| :Lakitu Travel is seen! Sorry, but whether it's on the Wiki or not, implied means the same thing. If you think it means unimportant, then why isn't it called Minor Organisations or something like that. What proof do you have, apart from the organisations mistakedly put there that implied means unimportant on this Wiki. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| ::Lakitu Travel ISN'T seen! Lakitu Travel is only mentioned ONCE and only once and never appears again! Its both minor and it actually IS just hinted. Where do we see THEM? We only see someone who ''claims'' they're part of a lakitu travel. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :::That's all we need to see of them to prove they aren't implied. Lakitu Travel is mentioned and seen, therefore it is not implied. It must be real because Kylie Koopa and the other guy would have had to go to them or call them. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| ::::Again, like you said the lakitu might be lying. The Lakitu could be the same lakitu that video taped Mario in Super Mario 64, or it could be a random lakitu that chased Mario around in Super Mario world. It doesn't matter its IMPLIED, hinted but not seen. What about this: Mario and Luigi's parents? Do THEY deserve their own article? They're even SEEN, part of their arms. And they're definitly existing. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :::::I never said he could be lying. He's almost definitely telling the truth. What proof do you have that he isn't telling the truth? Mario and Luigi's Parents' arms are the only things seen of them, and that's not enough. They could be anyone's arms. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| What proof do you have that the goom university doesn't exist? {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :More than Lakitu Travel. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}}
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| No, the SAME as lakitu travel. Have you even played the game? You don't even notice Lakitu Travel! The Lakitu is a employee of lkitu travel, and hes INSIGNIFICICANT. While professor frankly and goombella are both MAIN characters and goombella is a student and frankly works there. really, theres MORE information about Goom university than Lakitu Travel. Lakitu Travel '''is not seen'''. Where is it seen? Wheres the bus or anything? We only see one lakitu with nothing but a fishing pole which does not qualify as seen. It is implied. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| The article that is supposed to describe the organization mostly talks about how Kylie Koopa and Toadbert arrives and those Cobalt Star Shards. {{User|LeftyGreenMario}}
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| Look here [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Lakitu_Travel&diff=prev&oldid=157011 it] was '''it was originally in the implied category'''. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| :Aaand then it was later removed. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}} 16:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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| i have a qustion who put the waffle kingdom in the implied section i mean we have 5 people who say the traveld with luigi (and dont give me the he paid them argument cause that makes no sense because they pretty much said hes a lying idiot) {{User|mrblob1012}}
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| :It's IMPLIED. The actual place was never seen. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
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| ::This is going off-topic. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}} 16:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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| MCD! Like edo said, the organization does not exist outside that quote. The lakitu may be just kiddin'! You see, we heard this kind of things in movies and stuff, some random dude who helps his friends says "Bob's digging company at your service!" (i use bob alot...), but that company does not exits, he was just kidding and shows his "bright idea" to escape/solve the problem. This is not going off topic.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}18:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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| Mcd, again, you think Nurse Toadstool who (at the time we didn't know might not even be the same person) is so insignificant it should be with Peach, but this shouldn't be? This is as uneeded as [[Final 5 Events]], and we remember, its NOT seen. Its IMPLIED. {{User:Booderdash/sig}}
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| ==Just to avoid missunderstandings== | | ==Just to avoid missunderstandings== |
