| Latest revision |
Your text |
| Line 229: |
Line 229: |
|
| |
|
| == Split Mario Party Koopa Troopa from regular Koopa Troopas == | | == Split Mario Party Koopa Troopa from regular Koopa Troopas == |
| {{TPP}}
| |
|
| |
|
| <gallery> | | <gallery> |
| Line 245: |
Line 244: |
|
| |
|
| ===Split to "Koopa Troopa (Mario Party Host)"=== | | ===Split to "Koopa Troopa (Mario Party Host)"=== |
| #{{user|Kirby the Formling}} - per all
| |
|
| |
|
| ===Oppose=== | | ===Oppose=== |
| #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - That's simply the role Troopa had in that game, like how Boo often has a mildly consistent role in that series. That Lakitu appeared in a whole slew of games with a very important role and sometimes appeared alongside "normal" Lakitus as well. | | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - That's simply the role Troopa had in that game, like how Boo often has a mildly consistent role in that series. |
| #{{User|PrincessPeachFan}}: As pointed out below, even Superstars doesn't bother saying he's different from other Koopas.
| |
|
| |
|
| ===Comments=== | | ===Comments=== |
| {{@| Doc von Schmeltwick}} - <s>Just as I predicted</s>. Like I said, arguments agains this Koopa are simmilar to referee Lakitu. No in BOTH games he is not the only Koopa Troopa, in Mario Party 1 there are diffrent Koopas in [[Shell Game (minigame)|Shell Game]], and also Host Koopa gets replaced by diffrent Red Koopa ( withound a star flag ) in [[Mini-Game Stadium]]. and in Superstars there are diffrent Koopas on boards leading other Koopa Banks, in both games Host Koopa is not the only Koopa troopa. As for the Boo argument, not the these Boos never had any sort of distinct designs from other Boos, but also like a said in my argument 3, Superstars intro showcases that the Host Koopa returns from the Pipe in [[Mushroom Village]], confirming that yes, they are the same Koopa Troopa, did we ever seen that stealing Boos had any sort of simmilar "Continuity"? [[User:Kirby the Formling|Kirby the Formling]] ([[User talk:Kirby the Formling|talk]]) 11:17, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
| :Carrying something is not a "distinct design," and we already tend to discount minigame roles (also I was under the impression the Shell Game ones were Big Koopa Troopas given their size difference; this one re-uses the model from SM64 almost to the polygon, while those ones are different and have more detail). From a conceptual point of view, Hudson thought "let's put series-regular Nokonoko into a special role in this game," not "let's make a brand new character with the exact same name and design as series-regular Nokonoko," so I merely think we should reflect that. The Lakitu also has the weird situation where it claims to be [[Fishin' Lakitu]] once in the first game's JP manual (and then never brings it up again) and has a microphone attached to its goggles, which has always been unique to it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:21, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
| ::You keep ignoring one thing: his re-appearance in Superstars, even if Hudson Soft did not intended for that Koopa to be his own character, [[Nintendo Cube]] changed that since they did reference that Koopa and made him into a character, by him being the one character who jumps out of the pipe, calls all characters to join the new Party, and even on the board explains the story of that board, than he let's [[Toad]] in charge while he either leads one of the Banks or gives coins to players when passing him, but he does come back at the end when annoucing [[Bonus Star|Bonus Stars]]. Even if Hudson Soft did not intend for that Koopa to be his own character, Nintendo Cube changed that, it's called Retcon. There is 0% it is a coincidence that it is just another Koopa Troopa with a flag that has star on it, it was clearly done by Nintendo Cube to do the "Remeber this Koopa from your childhood? Now he is back to reprise his role!" the continuity is the reason why I am typing this in the first place. [[User:Kirby the Formling|Kirby the Formling]] ([[User talk:Kirby the Formling|talk]]) 13:21, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
| :::That is ''one'' other appearance of that role, contrasting the laundry list of Lakitu's appearances. And as Blinker said below, the in-game encyclopedia just treats it like any other Koopa Troopa. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:02, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
|
| |
| From what I'm seeing, Superstars's encyclopedia has an entry for Koopa Troopa that reads "One of Bowser's minions who is excited to be back guiding Mario Party players.", but the Koopa Troopa depicted isn't holding a flag. So, for what that's worth, the game itself doesn't seem particularly interested in distinguishing the flag carrier from other Koopa Troopas. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 12:55, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
| :I'm actually surprised the proposer doesn't seem to attempt making a connection between the ''Mario Party Superstars'' Koopa Troopa and the [[Koopa Bank]] Koopa Troopas from other games, as that same host figure seems to be managing those too. {{User:Arend/sig}} 17:39, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
| ::Unlike Superstars where we see Host Koopa running and stopping at one of the Koopa Banks, I don't think that the other Koopa troopas from [[Mario Party 2]] and [[Mario Party 3]] are him, which seem to be generic Koopas, since they don't even have star flags (I think.....). [[User:Kirby the Formling|Kirby the Formling]] ([[User talk:Kirby the Formling|talk]]) 20:44, February 22, 2025 (EST)
| |
| :::Personally, I'd say "runs a bank" is less generic than "carries a flag." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:51, February 23, 2025 (EST)
| |
