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This conjecturally titled page was created without a proposal, and marginally defies a previous proposal that merged "Bowser Baddies" into the page that is now called [[Bowser's Minions]], and is about Koopa Troopas as they appear in the first two ''Mario & Luigi'' games. The motivation for this split was because of the aviator gear, though there are no "generic" Koopa Troopas in those games to lack said gear - the only other Koopa Troopas in those games are variations ([[Dry Bones]] in both, [[Troopea]]s and allies as well as [[Ankoopa]]s in the former) or specific named characters ([[Kylie Koopa]] in the latter). ''Superstar Saga'', with its extra-goofy, whimsical artstyle, wasn't exactly a model for design consistency with other games. And of course, the remake nixes said gear entirely to portray them as bog-standard-design Troopas (as the other BIS-onward M&L games portrayed nonspecific, nonvariant Troopas) in every sense to better segue into the "Minion Quest" campaign. | This conjecturally titled page was created without a proposal, and marginally defies a previous proposal that merged "Bowser Baddies" into the page that is now called [[Bowser's Minions]], and is about Koopa Troopas as they appear in the first two ''Mario & Luigi'' games. The motivation for this split was because of the aviator gear, though there are no "generic" Koopa Troopas in those games to lack said gear - the only other Koopa Troopas in those games are variations ([[Dry Bones]] in both, [[Troopea]]s and allies as well as [[Ankoopa]]s in the former) or specific named characters ([[Kylie Koopa]] in the latter). ''Superstar Saga'', with its extra-goofy, whimsical artstyle, wasn't exactly a model for design consistency with other games. And of course, the remake nixes said gear entirely to portray them as bog-standard-design Troopas (as the other BIS-onward M&L games portrayed nonspecific, nonvariant Troopas) in every sense to better segue into the "Minion Quest" campaign. | ||
'''Proposer''': {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} | ||
'''Deadline''': August 14, 2024 | <br> | ||
'''Deadline''': August 14, 2024 (GMT) | |||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
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:::::Deep Cuts Toad is a normal Toad though, except he just wears purple clothes and has purple spots. I'm struggling to see the difference. [[User:Boddle|Boddle]] ([[User talk:Boddle|talk]]) 16:43, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | :::::Deep Cuts Toad is a normal Toad though, except he just wears purple clothes and has purple spots. I'm struggling to see the difference. [[User:Boddle|Boddle]] ([[User talk:Boddle|talk]]) 16:43, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::::::He is, but he's not the ''only'' one. That's the main thing here. These are just ordinary Koopa Troopa NPCs with no role other than "they are minions of Bowser" - ie, their ''normal'' role. Now, for instance, the individual photographer character could be split since he has a notable role, but in general they are not distinct from Koopa Troopas whatsoever. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:46, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | ::::::He is, but he's not the ''only'' one. That's the main thing here. These are just ordinary Koopa Troopa NPCs with no role other than "they are minions of Bowser" - ie, their ''normal'' role. Now, for instance, the individual photographer character could be split since he has a notable role, but in general they are not distinct from Koopa Troopas whatsoever. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:46, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | ||
Also, I hate the notion of saying certain articles would have to be merged with another because one proposal passed which didn't even have that topic in it. This sort of thing is a case-by-case basis and if somebody wanted to merge Deep Cuts Toad with Toad (species), that would be its own discussion/proposal. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 15:56, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | Also, I hate the notion of saying certain articles would have to be merged with another because one proposal passed which didn't even have that topic in it. This sort of thing is a case-by-case basis and if somebody wanted to merge Deep Cuts Toad with Toad (species), that would be its own discussion/proposal. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 15:56, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:I thought there was a consistent guideline for what constitutes an article? [[MarioWiki:Conjectural names]] states "if the subject is notable enough" and [[MarioWiki:Naming#Conjectural_names]] states "If the only available indication of a subject's name is a generic term or phrase rather than a clear name, then that description may be used", this page seemed to meet that standard. If it doesn't, figuring out why one article passes while another fails, seems relevant to finding clarity to what the policy guideline actually is. You even made the "green-hatted Goombas living in Rogueport" comparison which I actually found helpful in illustrating what the line is. Without a consistent policy guideline, wouldn't articles would be just determined on if users subjectively like or dislike it? [[User:Boddle|Boddle]] ([[User talk:Boddle|talk]]) 16:43, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | :I thought there was a consistent guideline for what constitutes an article? [[MarioWiki:Conjectural names]] states "if the subject is notable enough" and [[MarioWiki:Naming#Conjectural_names]] states "If the only available indication of a subject's name is a generic term or phrase rather than a clear name, then that description may be used", this page seemed to meet that standard. If it doesn't, figuring out why one article passes while another fails, seems relevant to finding clarity to what the policy guideline actually is. You even made the "green-hatted Goombas living in Rogueport" comparison which I actually found helpful in illustrating what the line is. Without a consistent policy guideline, wouldn't articles would be just determined on if users subjectively like or dislike it? [[User:Boddle|Boddle]] ([[User talk:Boddle|talk]]) 16:43, August 10, 2024 (EDT) | ||