Editing Talk:Koopa Clown Car

==metal or flesh?==
okay, i'm just wondering if the clown car is metal or flesh, because the clown car's face moves 2 times.anyone know??[[User:Super Luigi!|Super Luigi!!]] LUGI IS WATCHING YOU.PREPARE TO DIE.BWA,HA,HA!
:I'm pretty sure it's metal. There's no real basis for thinking it's made of flesh (as in, alive?): almost everything in the Marioverse has faces, many of which change (i.e. the hill in ''Super Mario World'' that grows and wears a bandage after Ludwig's castle smashes into it). I just assume it's magic, but I don't think there's any hard evidence pertaining to any of it - Nintendo's irritatingly lax about details like that. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 01:07, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

okay, thanks. and I did mean alive. [[User:Super Luigi!|super luigi!!]]

== Wirly Bird ==

Should I mention that in Super Mario RPG it's called Wirly Bird?{{User:KoopaMan/sig}}

== Mario Kart 7 ==

Can sombody upload a photo of the Koopa Clown from Mario Kart 7? --[[User:16-Volt|&#91;User:16-Volt]] 16:13, 27 December 2011 (EST)

I think that should be uploaded to [[Koopa Clown]] rather than here. [[User:B700465189a9|B700465189a9]] ([[User talk:B700465189a9|talk]]) 11:18, 16 February 2019 (EST)

==Create a separate page for Koopa Clown==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|green|split 11-0}}
Since the other kart parts from the Mario Kart series have their own articles, it is only fair for the Koopa Clown from Mario Kart 7 to get one too. After all, the glider [[Waddle Wing]] has a separate page from the enemy [[Waddlewing]].
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|BossBass}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 11, 2014, 23:59 GMT.
 
===Support===
#{{User|BossBass}} Per my proposal.
#{{User|Mario7}} Makes since. ''Mario Kart'' karts are also based on items, but are not actually those items. The Koopa Clown Car is not the same item as the kart in ''Mario Kart 7''.
#{{User|Boo4761}} The Waddlewing glider has a seperate page from the Waddlewing article. So why not this?
#{{User|Madz the Penguin}} Hmmm, seems reasonable. It's not the same as the Koopa Clown Car, so I think this is a smart idea.
#{{User|Toadbrigade5}} per all
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per all.
#{{User|Glitchy Bowser Jr.}} Per all.
#{{User|3D Player 2004}} Per all.
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} I believe we already had a proposal calling for this sort of thing, so per that.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all. Seems like a no-brainer.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per proposal.

===Oppose===

===Comments===

==Split Koopa Clown Car and Junior Clown Car into separate articles==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|8-0|split}}
The Koopa Clown Car and Junior Clown Car are at least definitely considered separate machines - while the Junior Clown Car originally appeared as an unnamed smaller variant of the Koopa Clown Car, I believe it has gained enough of an identity at this point to deserve its own article.

'''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
'''Deadline''': January 5, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

===Support===
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per proposal.
#{{User|MarioComix}} Yeah, the Junior Clown Car features many doodads and machinery that the Koopa Clown Car may or may not have. And it's at least worth a mention that in ''SSB4'' they talk about mass-produced Clown Cars.
#{{User|Toadbrigade5}} Per all
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per proposal
#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} Oh, definitely.
#{{User|Boo4761}} Per all.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
#{{User|57sugoi}} Per all.

===Oppose===

===Comments===

== Image ==

Why was the main image changed? Don't artworks take priority over screenshots?<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 16:04, 29 October 2017 (EDT)

== Paper Koopa Clown Car ==

If we had a proposal to split the paper entities in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]]'' then shouldn't the Paper Version of this (and the [[Junior Clown Car]] have pages for their paper varients for consistancy, or are they too minor? (Though the Paper Junior Clown Car is in a Boss battle, so). [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:11, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:Has it ever been referred to as a Paper Koopa Clown Car? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 21:24, 22 November 2017 (EST)

I'm not sure, but Paper Luigi, was never refered to as [[Paper Luigi]] (or at least I don't think), and we have an article on him, let me do some more research. [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:28, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:I don't think we do paper incarnations on non-character subjects but I don't know much about the games so... {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 21:30, 22 November 2017 (EST)

I don't know if that was necessarily a rule. I don't have this game either unfortunately, but I know a lot about it. [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:33, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:I don't think it was ever a target. I haven't played the game at all past Paper Petey (due to that fight really wearing me out), so I can't say for sure. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:37, 22 November 2017 (EST)
::I have beat the game, and as far as I know, it is unnamed and only appears in one scene, so I don't feel it is necessary to be split. It also acts exactly the same as the regular Koopa Clown Car. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 21:39, 22 November 2017 (EST)

That makes sense, but what about the Junior Clown car, it played a larger role and was even involved in an event where the regular varient was not. [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:41, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:And this is relevant because... {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:44, 22 November 2017 (EST)
::I believe he is referring to the paper version of the Junior Clown Car. As I do not believe that it is named either and is basically just used as transportation for Paper Bowser Jr., I don't feel a separate article is necessary. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 21:45, 22 November 2017 (EST)

C'mon it was in a boss battle, and that one event makes it more important then it's real varient (despite being... unimportant to begin with), but still [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:47, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Also, I believe if you die enough times to him, the hint block calls it "the Paper Junior Clown Car, but don't quote me on that. [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:48, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:Even if it '''''is''''' in a boss battle, I find this to be the same reason [[Durmite#Straw|Straw]] is merged with [[Durmite]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:49, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Let me check the archived proposal real quick, but still, I just to know if we should split these or not? [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:52, 22 November 2017 (EST)

== Koopa Clown Car and Fire Koopa Clown Car ==

Would not it be fair to separate the two pages? Especially considering the return of the Fire Koopa Clown Car in [[SMM2]].--[[User:Alternis|Alternis]] ([[User talk:Alternis|talk]]) 06:02, 14 February 2019 (EST)
:I agree, though this may apply to the Junior Clown Car version as well since the objects have clearer in-game names. [[Talk:Super Mario Maker#Proposal: what to do about all those sub-enemies.3F|This proposal]] might also be outdated when the game comes out. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:20, 14 February 2019 (EST)

Since [[Super Mario Maker 2]] includes the Fire Koopa Clown Car, should we split this article's [[Koopa_Clown_Car#Super_Mario_Maker_.2F_Super_Mario_Maker_for_Nintendo_3DS|Fire Koopa Clown Car section]] into a full article?
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 Can sombody upload a photo of the Koopa Clown from Mario Kart 7? --[[User:16-Volt|&#91;User:16-Volt]] 16:13, 27 December 2011 (EST)
+I think that should be uploaded to [[Koopa Clown]] rather than here. [[User:B700465189a9|B700465189a9]] ([[User talk:B700465189a9|talk]]) 11:18, 16 February 2019 (EST)
 ==Create a separate page for Koopa Clown==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|green|split 11-0}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|green|split 11-0}}
 Since the other kart parts from the Mario Kart series have their own articles, it is only fair for the Koopa Clown from Mario Kart 7 to get one too. After all, the glider [[Waddle Wing]] has a separate page from the enemy [[Waddlewing]].
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 ==Split Koopa Clown Car and Junior Clown Car into separate articles==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|8-0|split}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|passed|8-0|split}}
 The Koopa Clown Car and Junior Clown Car are at least definitely considered separate machines - while the Junior Clown Car originally appeared as an unnamed smaller variant of the Koopa Clown Car, I believe it has gained enough of an identity at this point to deserve its own article.
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 Would not it be fair to separate the two pages? Especially considering the return of the Fire Koopa Clown Car in [[SMM2]].--[[User:Alternis|Alternis]] ([[User talk:Alternis|talk]]) 06:02, 14 February 2019 (EST)
 :I agree, though this may apply to the Junior Clown Car version as well since the objects have clearer in-game names. [[Talk:Super Mario Maker#Proposal: what to do about all those sub-enemies.3F|This proposal]] might also be outdated when the game comes out. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:20, 14 February 2019 (EST)
-:I agree. [[Super Mario Maker 2]] includes the Fire Koopa Clown Car, so we should split this article's [[Koopa_Clown_Car#Super_Mario_Maker_.2F_Super_Mario_Maker_for_Nintendo_3DS|Fire Koopa Clown Car section]] into a full article. [[User:B700465189a9|B700465189a9]] ([[User talk:B700465189a9|talk]]) 11:21, 16 February 2019 (EST)
-::I'd support a split. Should there be a counterproposal about it? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:44, 17 February 2019 (EST)
-== Split Fire Koopa Clown Car from this article ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|15-0|split}}
-Just like [[Talk:Note Block#Split Note Block and Music Block|how there is already a proposal]] to split [[Music Block]] from [[Note Block]], I think the same deal applies to Fire Koopa Clown Cars. Much like the aforementioned subject, Fire Koopa Clown Cars function distinctively different enough from their normal counterparts to be split out into its own article.
-'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br>
-'''Deadline:''' March 16, 2019, 23:59 GMT
-===Support===
-#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} [[Talk:Note Block#Split Note Block and Music Block|See no further than this.]]
-#{{User|TheDarkStar}} Per proposal.
-#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} [[Fire Mario|Well]] [[Fire Piranha Plant|there]] [[Fire Bro|are]] [[Temper Terror|these]], so....
-#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Indubitably. They're different things, having them merged here is rather clunky.
-#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all.
-#{{User|Alternis}} Per all.
-#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
-#{{User|B700465189a9}} Definitely, since Yoshis are already [[Red Yoshi|split]] [[Blue Yoshi|up]] [[Yellow Yoshi|into]] [[Orange Yoshi|colored]] [[Black Yoshi|articles]].
-#{{User|Doomhiker}} Per all.
-#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
-#{{User|Scrooge200}} Per all.
-#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} Wait, these weren't split already? Per all.
-#{{User|Baby Luigi}}
-#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} Per all. The Fire Clown Car ''really'' deserves its own article.
-#{{User|Pseudo-dino}} Per all.
-===Oppose===
-===Comments===
-[[User:FanOfYoshi/Sandbox|I added it on my sandbox]]. Feel free to take it when the proposal passes. ;) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:46, 3 March 2019 (EST)
-Note to self: when a Koopa Clown Car is shaken to produce a Fire Koopa Clown Car, a cuíca can be heard in the background. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:02, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
-== Infobox image ==
+Since [[Super Mario Maker 2]] includes the Fire Koopa Clown Car, should we split this article's [[Koopa_Clown_Car#Super_Mario_Maker_.2F_Super_Mario_Maker_for_Nintendo_3DS|Fire Koopa Clown Car section]] into a full article?
-Wouldn't it be more convenient for the infobox image to show just the Clown Car itself? {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 16:11, September 9, 2019 (EDT)
-:Sorry for the belated response. The infobox image has been changed. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 10:49, November 16, 2020 (EST)