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== Rewrite into a species article == | == Rewrite into a species article == | ||
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Right now the page is written like there is only one Klump. This is clearly false as multiple Klumps/Kannons can be seen at the same time in DKC, DKC2 and DK64. There's simply no questioning it. | Right now the page is written like there is only one Klump. This is clearly false as multiple Klumps/Kannons can be seen at the same time in DKC, DKC2 and DK64. There's simply no questioning it. | ||
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Klump is no species, but yes character, second commander of Kremling Krew, Kannon is his alias and K. Rool's right-hand. I find various evidences. | Klump is no species, but yes character, second commander of Kremling Krew, Kannon is his alias and K. Rool's right-hand. I find various evidences. | ||
{{ | {{quote2|The enormous bulk of Klump the Kremling landed on top of Diddy, knocking him senseless.|''Donkey Kong Country'' SNES instruction booklet, page 5}} | ||
{{ | {{quote2|Klump is quite a character. He's like a big, overweight drill sergeant.|''Donkey Kong Country'' Player's Guide, page 13}} | ||
{{ | {{quote2|It looks like Klump can shoot.|''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest'' SNES instruction booklet, page 29}} | ||
{{ | {{quote2|Batten down the hatches—looks like Klump’s been taking shooting lessons!|''Donkey Kong Country 2'' GBA instruction booklet, page 23}} | ||
{{ | {{quote2|Klump waddled over and put a consoling arm around his distraught leader.|''Donkey Kong 64'' Nintendo 64 instruction booklet, page 29}} | ||
[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 22:54, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | [[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 22:54, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
:The short version is that if we were strict about ''every'' time a generic enemy was referred to with singular pronouns, it would make a '''very''' convoluted mess. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:05, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | :The short version is that if we were strict about ''every'' time a generic enemy was referred to with singular pronouns, it would make a '''very''' convoluted mess. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:05, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
== Merge [[General Klump]] here (and [[Krusha (character)]] to [[Krusha]]) == | == Merge [[General Klump]] here (and [[Krusha (character)]] to [[Krusha]]) == | ||
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Similar reasoning behind the Birdo and Boom-Boom proposals, but here, the lines are even less concrete, with bios commonly considering the standard enemies individuals. Either way, the "character" articles only cover the cartoon, where they are the only examples (barring debatably Skurvy). Also, other adaptations, like ''[[Donkey Kong Country: Rumble in the Jungle]]'', also use them as characters. The Klump in the ''Donkey Kong Pilot'' demo featuring him even uses a clear imitation of the cartoon character's voice. | Similar reasoning behind the Birdo and Boom-Boom proposals, but here, the lines are even less concrete, with bios commonly considering the standard enemies individuals. Either way, the "character" articles only cover the cartoon, where they are the only examples (barring debatably Skurvy). Also, other adaptations, like ''[[Donkey Kong Country: Rumble in the Jungle]]'', also use them as characters. The Klump in the ''Donkey Kong Pilot'' demo featuring him even uses a clear imitation of the cartoon character's voice. | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per | ||
#{{user|Somethingone}} I guess that makes sense. Per proposal. | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} These are distinct recurring characters from the cartoon, and I don't see this comparable to the Birdo and Boom Boom proposals at all. In the case of Birdo, there was so little to say about the species outside of the main character that it was merged into the character article, and Boom Boom was merged because it's just too difficult to discern when it's the character or not, and again, not much to say about either one of them independently. (Technically neither merge has actually happened yet, but you get my point) I don't really get the point of this merge. | #{{User|Waluigi Time}} These are distinct recurring characters from the cartoon, and I don't see this comparable to the Birdo and Boom Boom proposals at all. In the case of Birdo, there was so little to say about the species outside of the main character that it was merged into the character article, and Boom Boom was merged because it's just too difficult to discern when it's the character or not, and again, not much to say about either one of them independently. (Technically neither merge has actually happened yet, but you get my point) I don't really get the point of this merge. | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
@Waluigi Time How about Mouser in SMBSS? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:06, September 3, 2021 (EDT) | @Waluigi Time How about Mouser in SMBSS? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:06, September 3, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:It seems like we already consider Mouser an individual in all of his appearances. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 22:08, September 3, 2021 (EDT) | :It seems like we already consider Mouser an individual in all of his appearances. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 22:08, September 3, 2021 (EDT) | ||
