Editing Talk:Jr. Troopa

I added a Trivia section, along with the fact that he calls himself "Jr. Koopa" at one point. any insight to why this may be? Translation error perhaps? [[User:Luke the Almighty|Luke the Almighty]] 22:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

== Possible to skip Forever Forest fight? ==

I read somewhere that it's possible to skip this fight. Apparently, what you're supposed to do is go back to Toad Town AS SOON AS it's possible to create the warp pipe to and from Bow's Mansion, but before Bow joins the team. (If you go back any time after Bow joins, the fight will trigger.) Then you can use the warp pipe to get to and from the mansion without going back through the forest; thus skipping the fight.

Two things - can anyone confirm if this is true? And secondly, if it is true, will the fight be skipped permanently after a certain point in the game (such as after you fight him the time after that)? Or can you always do this fight, even much later in the game, simply by walking back from the mansion instead of using the warp pipe? [[User:Avengah|Avengah]] 05:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:nope.avi. I've just checked: as soon as you get boots the game triggers Jr. Troopa to appear in Forever Forest. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

== My apologies ==

Sorry. Didn't see the Field Tattle in the enemy box. --[[User:Dus T.|Dus T.]] 19:31, 22 February 2011 (EST)

== Jr. Troopa Picture Error == 

I'd like to report that on Jr. Troopa's second battle, he doesn't have a spike on his head. He is hiding in his shell on his second battle. I know this because in my game, he hides in his shell. Should we change the picture to where he's hiding in his shell? Thanks. -[[User:O O]]

== third and fourth battle skippable? ==

<blockquote>It is possible to avoid the third and the fourth battle aginst Jr. Troopa by activating the pipes connected to Boo's Mansion/Yoshi's Village in Toad Town Tunnels before completing the 3/5 chapter. Therefore Mario can go back to Toad Town through pipes after completing the chapter without meeting Jr. Troopa. </blockquote>
Is that possible? activating the pipes connected to Boo's Mansion and Yoshi's Village requires the Super Boots and Sushie respectively, but once you get them Jr. Troopa immediately appears in the Forever Forest fork and the sea between Toad Town and Lavalava Island. Note that you need to return to Toad Town to activate the pipes. It's impossible to activate the pipes near Boo's Mansion and in Yoshi's Village from there in the first place. (Except if you use glitches.) [[User:A gossip-loving Toad|A gossip-loving Toad]] ([[User talk:A gossip-loving Toad|talk]]) 03:26, 3 April 2016 (EDT)
:Sounds like either misinformation or someone hacking the game. Removed. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 05:42, 3 April 2016 (EDT)

== Final Battle Mechanics? ==

What dictates Jr. Troopa's form changes in his final battle? Is it that once he loses a certain amount of health in one go he changes, or is it that once he is below a certain HP? Is he able to skip forms? Which forms get which moves? [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] ([[User talk:Jdrawer|talk]]) 00:22, 17 December 2018 (EST)

== Strategy Guide ==
: The strategy guide indicates that Jr. Troopa isn't fought in Chapters 3 and 5 until the end of said chapters instead of when you get the Super Boots/Sushie respectively. Probably because you'd have no real reason to go back to the Forever Forest/Toad Town Docks before you beat the respective chapters... [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 23:36, January 8, 2023 (EST)
::He definitely does appear at the points mentioned in the article, clarified myself in my latest playthrough. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:08, January 9, 2023 (EST)
::: Yeah, I know. I was just relating what the strategy guide has listed (and this is the same strategy guide which calls the Bucket and Scarf "Marvelous Bucket" and "Fabulous Scarf" which makes me think that it was maybe written during the pre-release days). Plus, they say Jr. Troopa uses all of his tricks in his final battle whereas YouTube videos show him just using a few (normal, winged with spikes, wand). [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:52, January 9, 2023 (EST)
::::The guide is also wrong about the last battle; everytime I play matches with what you described from YouTube videos. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:23, January 9, 2023 (EST)

== Is he ''really'' a Troopa? ==

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I know the English script literally names him "Jr. '''Troopa'''" (in one of the rare moments they prioritize "Troopa" over "Koopa" as they should for K.T.'s, but I digress), but the Japanese name for him, "Kowappa," appears to play of "Koopa"/"Kuppa" - Bowser's name, and is not even remotely related to "Nokonoko" - Koopa Troopa's name, and indeed most named K.T.'s in the game use "Noko" in the Japanese script, with the only exception I can think of offhand being [[Kolorado]]. This isn't all, as his face and expressions actually appear to be drawn based off [[Baby Bowser]]'s sprites in ''[[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'' (particularly the mouth shape, and the eyes/brows), and look substantially different from any "other" Koopa Troopas in the game, lacking the hooked beak and such in favor of a more rounded muzzle. Confusing the issue further is his use of bat wings rather than bird wings like a Paratroopa would have, and then gaining traits of Spike Tops and Magikoopas later - though the wand could also be a nod to the Koopalings. The only physical traits he has that are more similar to Troopas than to the Bowser-type Koopas are being completely yellow (from the small amount of his body we see) and wearing shoes. At the very least, he could be treated as an "ambiguous" case like [[Tutankoopa]] currently is. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:12, December 28, 2024 (EST)
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-I know the English script literally names him "Jr. '''Troopa'''" (in one of the rare moments they prioritize "Troopa" over "Koopa" as they should for K.T.'s, but I digress), but the Japanese name for him, "Kowappa," appears to play of "Koopa"/"Kuppa" - Bowser's name, and is not even remotely related to "Nokonoko" - Koopa Troopa's name, and indeed most named K.T.'s in the game use "Noko" in the Japanese script, with the only exception I can think of offhand being [[Kolorado]] (''EDIT: And Kooper, misremembered his JP name as being what Koops' is''). This isn't all, as his face and expressions actually appear to be drawn based off [[Baby Bowser]]'s sprites in ''[[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'' (particularly the mouth shape, and the eyes/brows), and look substantially different from any "other" Koopa Troopas in the game, lacking the hooked beak and such in favor of a more rounded muzzle. Confusing the issue further is his use of bat wings rather than bird wings like a Paratroopa would have, and then gaining traits of Spike Tops and Magikoopas later - though the wand could also be a nod to the Koopalings. The only physical traits he has that are more similar to Troopas than to the Bowser-type Koopas are being completely yellow (from the small amount of his body we see) and wearing shoes. At the very least, he could be treated as an "ambiguous" case like [[Tutankoopa]] currently is. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:12, December 28, 2024 (EST)
+I know the English script literally names him "Jr. '''Troopa'''" (in one of the rare moments they prioritize "Troopa" over "Koopa" as they should for K.T.'s, but I digress), but the Japanese name for him, "Kowappa," appears to play of "Koopa"/"Kuppa" - Bowser's name, and is not even remotely related to "Nokonoko" - Koopa Troopa's name, and indeed most named K.T.'s in the game use "Noko" in the Japanese script, with the only exception I can think of offhand being [[Kolorado]]. This isn't all, as his face and expressions actually appear to be drawn based off [[Baby Bowser]]'s sprites in ''[[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'' (particularly the mouth shape, and the eyes/brows), and look substantially different from any "other" Koopa Troopas in the game, lacking the hooked beak and such in favor of a more rounded muzzle. Confusing the issue further is his use of bat wings rather than bird wings like a Paratroopa would have, and then gaining traits of Spike Tops and Magikoopas later - though the wand could also be a nod to the Koopalings. The only physical traits he has that are more similar to Troopas than to the Bowser-type Koopas are being completely yellow (from the small amount of his body we see) and wearing shoes. At the very least, he could be treated as an "ambiguous" case like [[Tutankoopa]] currently is. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:12, December 28, 2024 (EST)
-:I can agree to classifying him as an unsorted Koopa clan member. However, names aside, is there any indication he's a member of the Koopa clan to begin with? Judging by his sprites, he doesn't even seem have a shell. I realize [[Unshelled Koopa]]s are a thing, but still... <small>Also, I have to point out that Kooper's Japanese name isn't a "Noko" pun. The Koopa Troopa party member.</small> [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 10:46, December 28, 2024 (EST)
-::That egg's covering up so much it's hard to tell (and to be fair, that's a "shell" of a different type), though the Baby Bowser sprite influence is still definitely there. (He's kind of a proto-Bowser Jr., much like Koopa Kid, but much more different in appearance and affiliation.) <small>Misremembered Kooper as having Koops' JP name...</small> [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:59, December 28, 2024 (EST)
-:::There are a few sprites that show about half of his back, and if he were to have a shell, it would pretty much have to be on his butt, which seems unlikely. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 13:28, February 21, 2025 (EST)