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== Split the statues off ==
== Split the statues off ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|split}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|split}}
OK, so for starters, there is ''explicitly'' only one rideable Jaxi. He used to be atop the Inverted Pyramid, but you meet him in Jaxi Ruins, pay to ride him, and never have to pay again. If you ''could'' ride others, I ''doubt'' that they'd accept you paying another to ride them for free. The "species" is a bunch of immobile statues in some gargoyle-like state of dormancy. You can't interact with them beyond getting a Moon by Cappy-twirling a specific one's tail and bringing the ''specific'' Jaxi to one.
OK, so for starters, there is ''explicitly'' only one rideable Jaxi. He used to be atop the Inverted Pyramid, but you meet him in Jaxi Ruins, pay to ride him, and never have to pay again. If you ''could'' ride others, I ''doubt'' that they'd accept you paying another to ride them for free. The "species" is a bunch of immobile statues in some gargoyle-like state of dormancy. You can't interact with them beyond getting a Moon by Cappy-twirling a specific one's tail and bringing the ''specific'' Jaxi to one.


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::'''Page 109'''
::'''Page 109'''
::''[The] Raidon Ruins are packed with poisonous ponds, so take [the] Raidon Bus to proceed''
::''The Raidon Ruins are packed with poisonous ponds, so take the Raidon Bus to proceed''


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::'''Page 110'''
::''The statues arranged on [the] top of [the] Inverted Pyramid are like [the] Raidon Bus, but one of [the] six that were installed is missing. Why that is?''
::''The statues arranged on the top of the Inverted Pyramid are like the Raidon Bus, but one of the six that were installed is missing. Why that is?''


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::''Raidon Bus Stop''
::''Raidon Bus Stop''
::''You can call [the] Raidon Bus. [They] are in several places in Acchīnya.''
::''You can call the Raidon Bus. [They] are in several places in Acchīnya.''


::'''Page 117 TIPS'''
::'''Page 117 TIPS'''
::''Raidon Bus for a comfortable desert traveling''
::''Raidon Bus for a comfortable desert traveling''
::''Once you start running at great speed on [the] Raidon Bus, [it]'s the best ride to travel on [the] vast desert. [It] defeats the enemies that appear often in [the] desert at night by ramming into them, [it] runs without any problem on [the] poisonous ponds. There are ruins you can go through by riding on [the] Raidon Bus.''
::''Once you start running at great speed on the Raidon Bus, [it]'s the best ride to travel on the vast desert. [It] defeats the enemies that appear often in the desert at night by ramming into them, [it] runs without any problem on the poisonous ponds. There are ruins you can go through by riding on the Raidon Bus.''
::''[The] Raidon Bus is strong. [It] seems very reliable to run through comfortably, without any hurdle.''
::''The Raidon Bus is trong. [It] seems very reliable to run through comfortably, without any hurdle.''
::''Near the oasis, there is [a] stone statue that says to be a friend. When asking [it], [the] past circumstances will be known.''
::''Near the oasis, there is a stone statue that says to be a friend. When asking [it], the past circumstances will be known.''


::I added the brackets to stress how these pronouns are missing in Japanese, you need to guess them by the context. Honestly, going by the Japanese text, there's no particular evidence that there is more than one ''Raidon Bus'', the others are just referred to as ''statues''. It's interesting to note how the ''Raidon Ruins'' are not named ''Raidon Bus Ruins'', leading to a difference between ''Raidon'' and ''Raidon Bus'' that is lost in translation.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:02, December 17, 2020 (EST)
::I added the brackets to stress how these pronouns are missing in Japanese, you need to guess them by the context. Honestly, going by the Japanese text, there's no particular evidence that there is more than one ''Raidon Bus'', the others are just referred to as ''statues''. It's interesting to note how the ''Raidon Ruins'' are not named ''Raidon Bus Ruins'', leading to a difference between ''Raidon'' and ''Raidon Bus'' that is lost in translation.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:02, December 17, 2020 (EST)
:::Is this matter fully resolved or still up for discussion? I replayed ''Super Mario Odyssey'' very recently. While I am unsure if it is necessary to maintain the split, and it apparent that the stone statues are his kin, the game strongly presents the rideable "Jaxi" as an individual, and I think when covering a topic on the wiki, the source material should be prioritized over external references. For this specific case, I'd hesitate to fully trust the English edition of ''The Art of Super Mario Odyssey'' because, unlike the Japanese release, the book was not closely overseen by Nintendo so it can be a situation where topics were misinterpreted without overseeing clarification from what the developers intended (i.e. it is {{wp|paratext}}). The article as written still describes Jaxi as if there are multiple and this is something I think should be resolved. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 00:52, April 12, 2021 (EDT)

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