Editing Talk:Invincible Mario

Official title? {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}

:Uhm, not entirely sure. I only have a German manual for ''Super Mario Land'', where it says "Unbesiegbarer Mario" (translated: Invincible Mario). / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 21:03, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

::OK. {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}
:::Have't you noticed that the "flashing" only is in evidence in "MK:Double Dash!" when the characters only flash gold,but in ALL other games,they color-change.--[[User:Xterra1|<font color="gold">Xterra</font>]][[User talk:Xterra1|<font color="red">1</font>]] 09:24, 4 August 2007 (EDT)
::::In ''Super Mario Land'' they flash as well (there were no colors...) / [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] 09:32, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

==Picture==
The picture of SMW - it doesn't look like a proper screenshot. Maybe it's just me, or maybe not. What do you think?<br>{{User:Young Master Luma/sig}} 14:26, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:What do you think is wrong with it? - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 16:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::It looks way waay too smooth to be an actual screenshot of the game. It kind of looks like something a flash animation would use...<br>{{User:Young Master Luma/sig}} 16:28, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I have seen a few other screenshots like that ([[:File:Abyss.png|example]]). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Good, someone added a new picture. The abyss picture should probably be replaced, too... I'll see what I can do. (If I remember to.)<br>{{User:Young Master Luma/sig}} 15:12, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Screenshots that look like that were taken in an emulator with a GFX filter activated to make things look more smooth at a larger display size, so they are "actual" screenshots. I do agree though that screenshots with a filter shouldn't be used, as they don't show things how they actually look in the game when played on a real console.--[[User:Vellidragon|vellidragon]] 15:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

===Star Mario===
I think this should be changed to Star Mario, because too many things can conflict with 'invincible mario'. Like for instance, Rainbow Mario is invincible, as well as metal mario and shell mario and other things too. [[User:Wiiboy4ever|Wiiboy4ever]] 22:20, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

No no we can't it's not the official title {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

== The same artwork ==

Has anyone noticed that this artworks of...

{{multiple image
|align=center
|direction=horizontal
|footer=...'''Invincible Mario'''...
|width=500
|image1=No image.png
|alt1=green shell
|image2=NSMBWii Invincible Mario Artwork.png
|alt2=red shell
}}

...are completely the '''SAME IMAGE'''!

Basically Nintendo didn't bothered to make a new artwork for Invincible Mario for ''New Super Mario Bros. 2'' and recycled the artwork from ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii''. I guess we should get rid of the image with the lowest quality, of course that's the left one, and only keep the right one, because there is no sense on having the same image with different formats or quality.

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== NSMBU ==

Aren't the Coin/Star-blocks in NSMBU?
--[[Special:Contributions/84.149.26.213|84.149.26.213]] 14:32, 20 December 2015 (EST) MegaManMeetsMario was to lazy to log in.

== Move proposal ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|3-10|Do not move Invincible Mario to Invincibility}}
'''Proposer''': {{User|Scarlet Pairo}}<br>
'''Deadline''': November 20, 2021, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|Scarlet Pairo}} Okay, I think the title for this article should be rather something like "Invincibility". This article is about the status effect of invincibility, not about Mario's invincible form. Also, it doesn't fit well categorized under categories from other games, say the Donkey Kong series. Having "Invincible Mario" categorized at the category "Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!" is really weird.
#{{User|Results May Vary}} 100% per your points. I remember seeing "Invincible Mario" in that category and got confused at first.
#{{User|Metalex123}} I also agree, but I think we should just have both an "Invincible Mario" page to talk about the form characters take when using a [[Super Star]] (like how we have a page for [[Rainbow Mario]] separate from here), and a page for the ability to become invincible in general (so like "Invincibility" or something, like Scarlet Pairo proposed), such as [[Invincible Mario]], [[Rainbow Mario]], [[Strong Kong]], the ability given through the [[Invincibility Barrel]], and any other methods to become invincible in the Mario-related games.

===Oppose===
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} The article is about the form though, but it's obviously impossible to separate the form from the effects that it gives. Converting this page into a blanket "Invincibility" article not only provides nowhere to talk about the actual Invincible Mario form, but it also leaves similar forms like [[Rainbow Mario]] and [[Super Happy]] in a weird spot where they receive their own individual coverage but the main invincibility form of the series doesn't for arbitrary reasons. If anything, splitting off appearances that don't quite fit here into a general invincibility page would be a better approach.
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per WT, that sounds like a better approach to me.
#{{User|Tails777}} Per Waluigi Time.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.
#{{User|Swallow}} Per all
#{{User|WildWario}} Per all.
#{{User|Archivist Toadette}} Per all.
#{{User|OhoJeeOnFire}} Forms and power ups are separated because they are different things. Per all.
#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} Per all.

===Comments===
@Waluigi Time I only suggested changing the article title, but the article could still stay this way and cover the invincible character forms. Maybe we could make redirects afterwards. I mean, why shouldn't Invincible Mario be included in this article if it were about invincibility all together? {{User|Scarlet Pairo}} 

:Then that would be a merge of all invincibility forms into one page, which is 1. outside of the scope of this proposal and 2. not really preferable since you're clumping too many distinct subjects together. Aside from the forms I mentioned, how would forms like [[White Tanooki Mario]] factor into this? Would any form that grants invincibility be merged here? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:15, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

::Okay, I see what you're getting at. Your proposal of splitting other instances of invincibility is a good idea. {{User:Scarlet Pairo/sig}} 14:02, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

Hello, when making a proposal, please make sure you fill out your reasons in the top most section. Also, for comments, you don't need to number them. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 14:56, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

@Metalex123: A page covering all invincibility-granting forms would only work if none of them were given their own articles, otherwise it's a violation of [[MarioWiki:Once and only once]]. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 21:34, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

== Giving Odyssey's Invincible Mario it's own article? (Cancelled)==

Should we give Odyssey's Invincible Mario it's own article? Well, i think so anyways. Why? Because i think Odyssey's Invincible Mario has enough differences to stand out from normal Invincible Mario to warrant it's own article instead of having no article and only having mentions on other articles and pages like the amiibo article and the Invincible Mario article. Okay sure, i know the form ONLY appeared in Odyssey and is exclusive to Mario amiibos so it's not even available in normal gameplay and also since it has only appeared in one game there isn't a lot of stuff to say in it's hypothetical article, but, i think other power-ups are in similar boats to Odyssey Invincible Mario like Super Yoshi (the form from Yoshi's New Island, not the one from Super Mushrooms) as an example: a form that also only appeared in one game and doesn't have a lot of info, just like Odyssey Invincible Mario. So how about we give Odyssey Invincible Mario some love and give him the article treatment?

(Also the reason this isn't a TPP is because i don't know how to make one yet, and I'm also a little scared to do one since I'm not autoregistered yet, so to not risk anything i decided to not make this a TPP, but if anyone is intressted in making this disscusion into a TPP, feel free to do so.) [[User:Shadic 34|Shadic 34]] ([[User talk:Shadic 34|talk]]) 16:29, January 24, 2022 (EST)
:Although I have never used invincibility in this game myself (since I don't own any amiibo), from looking at the section I can tell that the invincibility is still pretty much the same concept and doesn't need to be split. I doubt there would be a whole lot to put in the article if it was split either. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 16:37, January 24, 2022 (EST)
:Than what about Rainbow Mario? It's the same concept as Invincible Mario yet it has an article but not Odyssey Invincible Mario? I mean... I know Rainbow Mario has more differences than Odyssey Invincible Mario and has appeared in more games but still. [[User:Shadic 34|Shadic 34]] ([[User talk:Shadic 34|talk]]) 16:45, January 24, 2022 (EST)
::Having an actual distinct name for one. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:49, January 24, 2022 (EST)
:::Okay so i have concluded that indeed that Odyssey Invincible Mario doesn't need an article and why Rainbow Mario has one:

1. All of the points previously disscused

And 2. Rainbow Mario has a power-up item named the Rainbow Star, while Odyssey Invincible Mario doesn't and the only way to access it IS with amiibos...

So yeah aboard ship this, ummm... "Proposal" is cancelled [[User:Shadic 34|Shadic 34]] ([[User talk:Shadic 34|talk]]) 16:55, January 24, 2022 (EST)

== The Invincible Merge ==


:Can we merge [[Invincible Mario]] with [[Rainbow Mario]]? --{{User:NatsMario2011/sig}} 19:57, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

==Artowork from SMBW?==
It claims that that artwork shown in the infobox is from Wonder, but it was actually reused from NSMBW. Does it still count as Wonder artwork then?{{User:Wonder Time!/sig}}