Editing Talk:Invincibility Leaf

== Artwork ==

I found the artwork for the invincibility leaf, I uploaded it, and someone deleted it. Why? {{User:Mario3D64/sig}}

I guess they thought it was fanart. But it's back now. {{User:Technickal/sig}}

== Luigi can get it ==

If you skip any levels in the normal world (and there are at least a dozen you can), then play them for the first time as Luigi, then this item and the P-Wing can and will appear.  I'm going to change both pages, but I figured I should say why first.
:Just realized I forgot to sign my post. Sorry.[[User:SidStarkiller|SidStarkiller]] 13:42, 28 March 2012 (EDT)

== Merge ==

I say we merge [[White Tanooki Mario]] & [[White Raccoon Mario]]. Could someone propose this?

[[User:Electrical Bowser jr.|Electrical Bowser jr.]] ([[User talk:Electrical Bowser jr.|talk]]) 12:56, 4 August 2012 (EDT)Electrical Bowser jr.
:Why can't you just propose it yourself? {{User:Master R.O.B/sig}}

I don't know how to!

[[User:Electrical Bowser jr.|Electrical Bowser jr.]] ([[User talk:Electrical Bowser jr.|talk]]) 13:14, 4 August 2012 (EDT)Electrical Bowser jr.
:It's simple, you just put {{tem|TPP}} on it, state the reason for merging the articles, say the deadline, and your name so people know who's proposing it. Then, you make a Support section, an Oppose section, and a Comments section. You also need to list the TPP on the [[Project:Proposals|main proposals page]]. {{User:Master R.O.B/sig}}

== Merge White Tanooki Mario & White Raccoon Mario ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|0-16|No merge}}
I think we ought to merge [[White Tanooki Mario]] & [[White Raccoon Mario]]. Who agrees?

'''Proposer''': {{User|Electrical Bowser jr.}}<br>
'''Deadline''': August 18, 2012, 23:59 GMT

===Support===

===Oppose===
#{{User|Raven Effect}} A raccoon does not equal a Tanooki.
#{{user|Walkazo}} - [[Raccoon Mario]], [[Tanooki Mario]] and their respective "White" versions are all separate forms and deserve separate articles.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|LuigiBlubber}} Even though they have the same uses and abilities, they are still different.
#{{User|Prince Ludwig}} Oh, heck no. It's you again. They aren't the same alternate forms. Per Walkazo. By the way, LuigiBubber, they just share their similarities. Raccoon Mario/Fox Luigi can still fly, but Tanooki Mario/Kitsune Luigi no longer fly.
#{{User|Master R.O.B}} Per all.
#{{User|MarioManiac164}} Raccoon and Tanooki Mario are completely different forms, so why should White Raccoon and White Tanooki be the same?
#{{User|Vommack}} Just as the raccoon and the tanooki are not one, the Raccoon Suit and Tanooki suit are not one, no matter what color they are.
#{{User|MarioSmasher}} — Yet they have similiar powers, they're not the same power-up at all: White Raccoon Mario can fly, but White Tanooki Mario doesn't. By the way, this should have been on either the White Tanooki Mario or the White Raccoon Mario talk page. Also, per Walkazo.
#{{User|Tails777}} If we did this, we'd have to merge Racoon Mario and Tanooki Mario too. Per all.
#{{User|Zero777}} Per all
#{{User|Coooool123}} Per all
#{{User|Exo}} Per all.
#{{User|Technickal}} Per all.
#{{User|Koopa K}} Per all.
#{{User|Comp52}} I think that, from what I can tell, they are almost exactly alike(flying aside), HOWEVER, I think that we should wait a week or so, then make a decision. By then, we will all be able to know whether or not these power-ups are the same.

===Comments===
Is this proposal about merging the articles together, or merging them to this page? {{User|Master R.O.B}}

:Articles together, I suppose. Merging the two pages of [[White Tanooki Mario]] and [[White Raccoon Mario]] in ''this'' page would be totally dumb. But wait a minute, why having a proposal ''here''?--[[User:Prince Ludwig|Prince Ludwig]] ([[User talk:Prince Ludwig|talk]]) 12:16, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
::Should we move the proposal? {{User|Master R.O.B}}
:::But to where he doesn't specify which page he wants to merge them to in his proposal so we have no way of knowing (at the moment) if he wants to merge White Raccoon Mario to White Tanooki Mario or White Tanooki Mario to White Raccoon Mario. {{User|Raven Effect}}
::::I'll go ask Electrical Bowser jr. {{User|Master R.O.B}}

'''Electrical Bowser jr.''': When making a proposal or talkpage proposal, you ''should'' include yourself in the support section and give a reason. {{User|MarioSmasher}}
:No, he doesn't. The rules only state that every vote must have a reason accompanying it, not that a proposer must support his or her proposal (there has been at least one instance in which the proposer has opposed the proposal). {{User|Mario4Ever}}
::Considering the basic format for proposals clearly supporting such a case, I'd say that the proposer has to vote for it, unless they've decided to change their mind(Which seems rather doubtful at the moment).--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 22:18, 9 August 2012 (EDT)
:::That's only because that's what proposers generally do (and because the basic format demonstrates how to vote correctly), but they don't need to if they do not wish to do so. Underneath the basic format is the following: '' Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.'' Nowhere does it say proposers are obligated to vote. {{User|Mario4Ever}}

Hmm...this is interesting. Quote from [http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/nsmb2/0/6|here]:<br><br>
"All right. Super Mario is a game that all kinds of people play—everyone can enjoy them, from people who don't play video games very much to advanced players—and that is the eternal theme of the series. In that respect, I do have a conviction that this time it went very well. For example, even if you aren't that great at video games, if you use White Raccoon Mario, '''which also appeared in Super Mario 3D Land''', you can manage to clear it by yourself."<br><br>
I think he's referring to the invincibility leaf, though.
{{User:Technickal/sig}}

Both of 'em look like a racoon!

{{User:Electrical Bowser jr./sig}}

:But [[Tanooki Mario]] has the full body suit, and [[Raccoon Mario]] has just the ears and tail. Plus, Tanooki Mario can turn into [[Statue Mario|a statue]]. {{User|Technickal}}

== White Tanooki Suit ==

Hey, am I really the only one who thinks this powerup would've had better design as a White Tanooki Suit or something like that?