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| Dang that guy looks like the running dude from Zelda.. maybe there the same people..... showoff. | | Dang that guy looks like the running dude from Zelda.. maybe there the same people..... showoff. |
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| == Evolution == | | == Evolution == |
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| == Cleanup == | | == Cleanup == |
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| The notable humans section is useless, it literally lists every human in the series. Permission to clean it up? --[[File:MPDS Yoshi Sprite.png|30px]] '''[[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Yoshi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Bros</span>]]''' [[File:MPDS Yoshi Sprite.png|30px]] 21:24, 9 February 2013 (EST) | | The notable humans section is useless, it literally lists every human in the series. Permission to clean it up? --[[File:Yoshi2mpds.gif|30px]] '''[[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Yoshi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Bros</span>]]''' [[File:Yoshi2mpds.gif|30px]] 21:24, 9 February 2013 (EST) |
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| :A lot, if not all of that list is covered by {{tem|Human}}. So if the entire list is on that template, then I see the list as redundant. | | :A lot, if not all of that list is covered by {{tem|Human}}. So if the entire list is on that template, then I see the list as redundant. |
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| :{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 21:32, 9 February 2013 (EST) | | :{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 21:32, 9 February 2013 (EST) |
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| ::So, should I clean it up and leave only notable characters then? (Mario, Luigi, Peach, and the likes of them) --[[File:MPDS Yoshi Sprite.png|30px]] '''[[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Yoshi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Bros</span>]]''' [[File:MPDS Yoshi Sprite.png|30px]] 21:33, 9 February 2013 (EST) | | ::So, should I clean it up and leave only notable characters then? (Mario, Luigi, Peach, and the likes of them) --[[File:Yoshi2mpds.gif|30px]] '''[[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Yoshi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Bros</span>]]''' [[File:Yoshi2mpds.gif|30px]] 21:33, 9 February 2013 (EST) |
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| ::It's honestly what I prefer too, but perhaps a proposal would best decide what to do. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] ([[User talk:GreenDisaster|talk]]) 21:53, 9 February 2013 (EST) | | ::It's honestly what I prefer too, but perhaps a proposal would best decide what to do. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] ([[User talk:GreenDisaster|talk]]) 21:53, 9 February 2013 (EST) |
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| How's the list now? --[[File:MPDS Yoshi Sprite.png|30px]] '''[[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Yoshi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Bros</span>]]''' [[File:MPDS Yoshi Sprite.png|30px]] 21:56, 9 February 2013 (EST) | | How's the list now? --[[File:Yoshi2mpds.gif|30px]] '''[[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Yoshi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:orange>Bros</span>]]''' [[File:Yoshi2mpds.gif|30px]] 21:56, 9 February 2013 (EST) |
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| It's better. GreenDisaster: did you want to make the proposal, or should I do it? | | It's better. GreenDisaster: did you want to make the proposal, or should I do it? |
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| == Proposal: removing "Notable Members" section on article == | | == Proposal: removing "Notable Members" section on article == |
| {{Settled TPP}} | | {{SettledTPP}} |
| {{Proposal outcome|green|remove 13-0}}
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| I think the section "Notable Members" should be removed because, as discussed above, user's opinions of which members are notable can vary, and there is already a brief list of Notable Members in the infobox. | | I think the section "Notable Members" should be removed because, as discussed above, user's opinions of which members are notable can vary, and there is already a brief list of Notable Members in the infobox. |
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| ==Kongs== | | ==Kongs== |
| Aren't [[Kong|Kongs]] a related species?[[User:Rpg gamer|RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!!]] ([[User talk:Rpg gamer|talk]]) 11:55, 26 March 2013 (EDT) | | Aren't [[Kong|Kongs]] a related species?[[User:Rpg gamer|RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!!]] ([[User talk:Rpg gamer|talk]]) 11:55, 26 March 2013 (EDT) |
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| I feel this page is sonewhat lacking in content if compared to other species pages like Toad. What about their games appearances ? I would update it myself, but I never played them. [[Special:Contributions/191.128.187.29|191.128.187.29]] 22:35, 27 July 2014 (EDT)
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| We could add that list, but it'd probably take an insane amount of time [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] ([[User talk:MarioLover54|talk]]) 09:53, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
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| :I'm pretty sure we don't actually need that, though. Also, ''please stop necroing old discussions''. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 09:58, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
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| == Delete page ==
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| This page is not dissimilar to [[Talk:Elephant#Delete this page|Elephant]], [[Talk:Dragon#Banish this article to the fiery depths|Dragon]], [[Talk:Giraffe#Delete this page|Giraffe]], [[Goat]] before [[Special:Diff/2504660|its clean-up]], and other pages that have been put down for being too generic to hold any valuable information beyond "here's a list of mario characters who are an elephant/dragon/cat". The lead section of "Human" mostly subsists on information about [[Metro Kingdom]] denizens and a couple other scant, unrelated and generic appearances of humans in the Mario universe. For instance, the page notes a particular depiction of skeletal human remains in ''Donkey Kong 64'' where they serve as nothing more than portending stage props which do not play a functional role in the gameplay. ''No subject can get any more generic than that''. We might as well write about the impaled skulls in the jungle stages of ''Donkey Kong Country 2''.
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| Moving on, we have the "Species" section. While admittedly informative and a bit more coherent in its presentation of Mario-franchise humans, it merely expands on a generic categorization of certain Mario characters. It's like if we made a page for rodents where we just state comparisons between [[Little Mouser]]s, [[Scaredy Rat]]s, [[Neek]]s etc. I feel like the sourced information can find its way on related pages such as [[Mario]], and statements such as how humans in ''Mario'' sports games follow a more anime-ish design compared to [[New Donker]]s (who aren't even confirmed to be actual ''Homo sapiens'') can be removed entirely since the connection between the two subjects stretches far too wide.
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| Other than the aforementioned, as well as a redundant infobox listing which is already covered by a navigation template, I don't see how this page has anything going for it and how we can reasonably expand on the subject of humans in the ''Mario'' franchise without repeating the mistakes presented here. I propose that this curious survivor of the Great Generic Subject Purge of 2017-2018 join the pile in the mass grave. What is your voice in this?
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Koopa con Carne}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': March 3, 2021, 23:59 GMT
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| #{{User|Koopa con Carne}} per proposal.
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| #{{User|Ray Trace}} I'd repurpose any remaining information into Category:Humans but yeah I overall agree with the premise of this TPP.
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| #{{User|Keyblade Master}} Yeah the page seems to be a bit of a mess. <s>Hope you don't mind me correcting the deadline date too.</s>
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| #{{User|Waluigi Time}} With how short this page currently is, and how it's been under "construction" with little progress for 1.5 years, I think that just shows there's not really much, if anything, to say about humans that's unique to the Mario franchise.
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| #{{User|RHG1951}} Per proposal. Like what Ray Trace said, any valid information should be transferred elsewhere.
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| #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
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| #{{user|Mario jc}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Archivist Toadette}} Never realized how generic this article was until you laid forth your arguments. Per all.
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| #{{user|TheDarkStar}} - per all
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| #{{user|2257}} - per all
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| #{{User|Duckfan77}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Yes, destroy the humans.
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| #{{User|Doomhiker}} This page is pointless. There's no information exclusive to the human species that could only be put on this page beyond just listing any notable human characters, and that's the work for categories.
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| #{{User|1JUST1}} - Per all. This page is just saying that Metro Kingdom's inhabitants are humans, along with two or three other people, and that is basically it.
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| == Why does this page now redirect to the Category:Humans? ==
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| Why does this page now redirect to the Category:Humans? That's all I need to know. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 15:14, June 6, 2021 (EDT)
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| :See the proposal above. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 15:18, June 6, 2021 (EDT)
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| I have now. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 15:37, June 6, 2021 (EDT)
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