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== Move back to Silver Chomp == | == Move back to Silver Chomp == | ||
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The current name of this article comes solely from Mario Portal, which was from about a year ago, whereas the name "Silver Chomp" was used in-game (albeit for a mission title) which is even its onky appearance. I want to point out that a recent proposal to move Pianta Thrower back to [[Chuckster]] passed with overwhelming support for a similar reason to this one, a name that has been used in a game still taking priority over a newer name that hasn't. | The current name of this article comes solely from Mario Portal, which was from about a year ago, whereas the name "Silver Chomp" was used in-game (albeit for a mission title) which is even its onky appearance. I want to point out that a recent proposal to move Pianta Thrower back to [[Chuckster]] passed with overwhelming support for a similar reason to this one, a name that has been used in a game still taking priority over a newer name that hasn't. | ||
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#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Per proposal. | #{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|MegaBowser64}} Per proposal. | #{{User|MegaBowser64}} Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|Pseudo}} This is more clear-cut than Stompin' Chomp to me since there are other types of Chomp in that level as well that the title could easily refer to and that title leaves out the "rompin'" element. On top of that, I don't think there is strong reason to believe that Silver Chomp is meant to be a generic descriptor as Doc von Schmeltwick describes — it is a very direct descriptor compared to something like Stompin' Chomp that seems more colloquial I guess. | |||
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} I'd say this is more comparable to [[Giant Wiggler]]. Per proposal, and all. | #{{User|FanOfYoshi}} I'd say this is more comparable to [[Giant Wiggler]]. Per proposal, and all. | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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#{{User|Hewer}} Per all. | #{{User|Hewer}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} The [[Chuckster]] proposal was mentioned, so we'd like to bring something up in specific with that example that isn't the case here--without a [=3DAS=] to set the record straight that Nintendo still calls them Silver Chomp instead of their later name, this is a ''lot'' less clear-cut than the Chucksters. The combination of the vague syntax of the original name (the capitalization leaves it unclear if it's the name or just an adjective for "Chomp") leaves us with a very, very strange edge case for Silver Chomp literally only ''possibly'' being the "official" name because of grammar, and unless more concretely spelled-out information comes out, we might as well defer to the lower-priority but way more concretely stated name in the meantime. THAT BEING SAID: if someone were to pull a hail-mary, email Nintendo, asked "Is it Silver Chomp?", and if Nintendo said "Yes, it is, we just capitalized that wrong.", we'd be inclined to support this whole-heartedly; the main hurdle here, after all, is the ambiguity, and that'd clear it up. | #{{User|Camwoodstock}} The [[Chuckster]] proposal was mentioned, so we'd like to bring something up in specific with that example that isn't the case here--without a [=3DAS=] to set the record straight that Nintendo still calls them Silver Chomp instead of their later name, this is a ''lot'' less clear-cut than the Chucksters. The combination of the vague syntax of the original name (the capitalization leaves it unclear if it's the name or just an adjective for "Chomp") leaves us with a very, very strange edge case for Silver Chomp literally only ''possibly'' being the "official" name because of grammar, and unless more concretely spelled-out information comes out, we might as well defer to the lower-priority but way more concretely stated name in the meantime. THAT BEING SAID: if someone were to pull a hail-mary, email Nintendo, asked "Is it Silver Chomp?", and if Nintendo said "Yes, it is, we just capitalized that wrong.", we'd be inclined to support this whole-heartedly; the main hurdle here, after all, is the ambiguity, and that'd clear it up. | ||
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Question: How much weight does the Prima Guide hold here? {{User:Tails777/sig}} | Question: How much weight does the Prima Guide hold here? {{User:Tails777/sig}} | ||
:That question does not have a definitive answer. Prima did clearly take "Silver Chomp" straight from the mission title, but as LTL mentioned, they're not the only ones guilty of doing that. The usage of "Silver Chomp" in the mission title does not clearly evoke "generic descriptor" the way "Big Bird" or "Swimming Beast" obviously do, especially since the Japanese mission name largely gives off the same impression. It's only because of the Japanese guide and internal name that the "generic descriptor" argument is plausible at all. It's worth noting that the similar name "[[Gold Chomp]]" is derived from the same guide, with us previously using "Golden Chomp" from another [[The Golden Chomp|mission title]]. (Unlike "Silver Chomp", Mario Portal actually backs "Gold Chomp" up.) {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 01:22, October 11, 2023 (EDT) | :That question does not have a definitive answer. Prima did clearly take "Silver Chomp" straight from the mission title, but as LTL mentioned, they're not the only ones guilty of doing that. The usage of "Silver Chomp" in the mission title does not clearly evoke "generic descriptor" the way "Big Bird" or "Swimming Beast" obviously do, especially since the Japanese mission name largely gives off the same impression. It's only because of the Japanese guide and internal name that the "generic descriptor" argument is plausible at all. It's worth noting that the similar name "[[Gold Chomp]]" is derived from the same guide, with us previously using "Golden Chomp" from another [[The Golden Chomp|mission title]]. (Unlike "Silver Chomp", Mario Portal actually backs "Gold Chomp" up.) {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 01:22, October 11, 2023 (EDT) | ||
::Like I said in my vote, there's also the mission's German title. It's the only language where the title both mentions the enemy and isn't in title case, and the word for "silver" happens to be in lowercase, which doesn't happen, for instance, with purple coins | ::Like I said in my vote, there's also the mission's German title. It's the only language where the title both mentions the enemy and isn't in title case, and the word for "silver" happens to be in lowercase, which doesn't happen, for instance, with purple coins. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 09:45, October 11, 2023 (EDT) | ||
