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== Give Level Gate its own article ==
== Give Level Gate its own article ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|8-0|Create new article for Level Gate}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|8-0|Create new article for Level Gate}}
See comment above. Unlike other types of goop, which are usually hazardous to touch, Level Gates (including Rainbow Ms) are portals to other parts of Isle Delfino, much like [[painting]]s in ''[[Super Mario 64]]''.
See comment above. Unlike other types of goop, which are usually hazardous to touch, Level Gates (including Rainbow Ms) are portals to other parts of Isle Delfino, much like [[painting]]s in ''[[Super Mario 64]]''.


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==Split off each subtype of goop into its own article==
==Split off each subtype of goop into its own article==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|9-2-0-0|Split subtypes}}
Each subtype of goop has a unique name and unique properties, some of them quite drastically different from regular goop. While they are all clearly related, they are not really any more so related than something like a [[Koopa Paratroopa]] is to a [[Koopa Troopa]], or a [[Spiky Goomba]] to a [[Goomba]]. The sections on the current article for each of the subtypes could each easily carry their own articles as they are already written, and the current structure of the page feels a bit like a strange disambiguation article.
Each subtype of goop has a unique name and unique properties, some of them quite drastically different from regular goop. While they are all clearly related, they are not really any more so related than something like a [[Koopa Paratroopa]] is to a [[Koopa Troopa]], or a [[Spiky Goomba]] to a [[Goomba]]. The sections on the current article for each of the subtypes could each easily carry their own articles as they are already written, and the current structure of the page feels a bit like a strange disambiguation article.


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#{{User|MegaBowser64}} I've been confused several times by this setup. Каждый вид слизи должен получить свой артикул.
#{{User|MegaBowser64}} I've been confused several times by this setup. Каждый вид слизи должен получить свой артикул.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Je suis d'accord! Per all.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Je suis d'accord! Per all.
#{{User|ExoRosalina}} Per this option.
#{{User|Mushroom Head}} There are too many goop types, it's confusing.
<s>#{{User|Ahemtoday}} Eh, I should probably mark this down as my second option.</s> On second thought, I think the distinction between goop and all the other stuff in the article is the most valuable thing, and this option would blur that a bit, so I'd really rather have option 2.
<s>#{{User|Ahemtoday}} Eh, I should probably mark this down as my second option.</s> On second thought, I think the distinction between goop and all the other stuff in the article is the most valuable thing, and this option would blur that a bit, so I'd really rather have option 2.


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::I dunno... we also have an article for the [[Painting]]s in ''[[Super Mario 64]]'', which are pretty much Level Gates in of itself, but there's also a handful of "level gates" ins SM64 that aren't paintings (an empty wall leading to [[Snowman's Land]], a trap door leading to [[Bowser in the Dark World]], some kind of pool-like portal on the floor leading to [[Hazy Maze Cave]], and the little house-cage thing a Boo carries leading to [[Big Boo's Haunt]], to name a few). We already have a main article for the SM64 "level gates" in the Painting article (even with it being expanded to include other games), and no one had considered before that non-painting level gates in SM64 were important enough for its own article.<br>I'm pretty sure that we only have a Level Gate article because it's a catch-all term for various level portals, only mentioned in BradyGames's ''Super Mario Sunshine'' guide; no other guide seems to use the term. This still makes me think that "Rainbow M" should be the main name because, again, "Level Gate" is a generic term ("Rainbow M" also comes from the Player's Guide, making it probably the closest to an official Nintendo-given name), and we haven't given this privilege to SM64's non-painting entrances at all. Aside from the Rainbow Ms, the only other "Level Gates" in ''Sunshine'' are a [[cannon]], staring at the sun, and red [[Warp Pipe]]s (and I guess a hole under the bridge for the Pachinko secret level). We already have articles for cannons and Warp Pipes, so we certainly don't need an article that already describes these things again, and things like staring at the sun or finding a hole under the bridge are very unique circumstances that might as well be described on their respective levels (much like the cage thing that grants access to Big Boo's Haunt in SM64). Plus, [[Delfino Plaza]] doesn't mention Level Gates anywhere, but it does mention Rainbow Ms, Warp Pipes and the cannon.<br>In short, I still think the merged article should be named "Rainbow M", and even though Sirena Beach and Pianta Village's Level Gates aren't Rainbow Ms, they ''are'' [[Warp Pipe]]s and don't need to be covered on a Rainbow M article beyond a passing mention. {{User:Arend/sig}} 16:03, July 18, 2023 (EDT)
::I dunno... we also have an article for the [[Painting]]s in ''[[Super Mario 64]]'', which are pretty much Level Gates in of itself, but there's also a handful of "level gates" ins SM64 that aren't paintings (an empty wall leading to [[Snowman's Land]], a trap door leading to [[Bowser in the Dark World]], some kind of pool-like portal on the floor leading to [[Hazy Maze Cave]], and the little house-cage thing a Boo carries leading to [[Big Boo's Haunt]], to name a few). We already have a main article for the SM64 "level gates" in the Painting article (even with it being expanded to include other games), and no one had considered before that non-painting level gates in SM64 were important enough for its own article.<br>I'm pretty sure that we only have a Level Gate article because it's a catch-all term for various level portals, only mentioned in BradyGames's ''Super Mario Sunshine'' guide; no other guide seems to use the term. This still makes me think that "Rainbow M" should be the main name because, again, "Level Gate" is a generic term ("Rainbow M" also comes from the Player's Guide, making it probably the closest to an official Nintendo-given name), and we haven't given this privilege to SM64's non-painting entrances at all. Aside from the Rainbow Ms, the only other "Level Gates" in ''Sunshine'' are a [[cannon]], staring at the sun, and red [[Warp Pipe]]s (and I guess a hole under the bridge for the Pachinko secret level). We already have articles for cannons and Warp Pipes, so we certainly don't need an article that already describes these things again, and things like staring at the sun or finding a hole under the bridge are very unique circumstances that might as well be described on their respective levels (much like the cage thing that grants access to Big Boo's Haunt in SM64). Plus, [[Delfino Plaza]] doesn't mention Level Gates anywhere, but it does mention Rainbow Ms, Warp Pipes and the cannon.<br>In short, I still think the merged article should be named "Rainbow M", and even though Sirena Beach and Pianta Village's Level Gates aren't Rainbow Ms, they ''are'' [[Warp Pipe]]s and don't need to be covered on a Rainbow M article beyond a passing mention. {{User:Arend/sig}} 16:03, July 18, 2023 (EDT)
::: That's fair enough, Rainbow M does seem like a better article title in that case. [[User:Pseudo|Pseudo]] ([[User talk:Pseudo|talk]]) 19:29, July 18, 2023 (EDT)
::: That's fair enough, Rainbow M does seem like a better article title in that case. [[User:Pseudo|Pseudo]] ([[User talk:Pseudo|talk]]) 19:29, July 18, 2023 (EDT)
I created a draft/mock-up of the final layout of the pages based on the split. Have a look here, and suggest any changes or additions in a reply to this comment:
[[User:Pseudo/Split_goop_article_drafts]] (also please note that all templates are intentionally broken since userspace pages are not allowed to include them) [[User:Pseudo|Pseudo]] ([[User talk:Pseudo|talk]]) 07:23, July 23, 2023 (EDT)
==Proposal: move Generator information to the Proto Piranha article==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|5-0}}
Might as well throw another TPP on the pile.
My reasoning's pretty simple. Generators are part of [[Proto Piranha]]s. Every Proto Piranha comes out of a Generator and every Generator has a Proto Piranha in it. As such, I think it makes sense for the information on them to be there instead of here.
'''Proposer:''' {{user|Ahemtoday}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' December 29, 2023, 23:59 GMT
===Support===
#{{user|Ahemtoday}} I mean, it's my own proposal.
#{{user|Super Game Gear}} Per proposer.
#{{User|Pseudo}} Fully in agreement that this should either have its own article or be part of Proto Piranha.
#{{User|Biggestman}} per proposal.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
===Oppose===
===Comments===

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