Editing Talk:Goombeetle

Shouldn't this be merged wth [[Goomba]]? Like the Pumpkin Head article, it's just a Goomba wearing an object on its head for proection... {{User:Mr. Guy/sig}}
:Nah. You can tell they have a different physical appearance (Their eyes are Yellow and they lack the pointy fangs), and unlike the Pumpkin Heads, you can't remove their protections and turn them into normal [[Goomba]]. -{{User:Blitzwing/sig}}
Why ASTRO Goomba? That Astro comes from astronaut, and Astronauts wear helmets WITH A WINDOW. And these ones without. And, there are already Goomba's in space without helmets. Do you see something with a helmet besides this one? NO. I think the armor helmet of this goomba is just for protection. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

I think this shouldn't be merged with [[Goomba]], since it's face has a different appearance, and if it's not a [[Goomba]], why should it be named Astro Goomba? Also, why should it be named ''Astro'' at all? It only has a helmet, nothing suggesting it would be anything astro. Maybe helmet goomba or something else with helmet in it should be the title? [[User:Young Master Luma|Young Master Luma]] 19:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Conjectural name? ==
Why does the article have a conjectural name when there at least three official names in other languages (according to the list) and even the (English) Prima guide named them? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 12:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
:This seems to have been answered with a TPP. {{User|Marioguy1}}

== TPP: Move ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|gray|cancelled}}
No offense to anyone, but I find this pretty dumb. The Prima official guide calls them Metallic Goombas, yet we still have them listed as Astro Goombas. The Prima guides give them an official name, so I propose we move Astro Goomba to <span title="{{{2|{{{1|}}}}}}" class="fakelinks">{{{1|Metallic Goomba}}}</span><noinclude>. <br>

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Bowser's luma}} <br>
'''Deadline:''' Friday, December 17th 2010, 00:17
===Move to Metallic Goomba===
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per me.

===Keep at Astro Goomba===

===Comments===
If the Prima official guide says they are Metalic goombas, they are metallic goombas. This should not even require a proposal. {{User|Marioguy1}}
:Agreed: I'm pretty sure the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' guide came out after Nintendo Power officially partnered with Prima Guides, so it's okay as far as our [[MarioWiki:Naming|naming policy]] goes, and even if it wasn't as official as we'd like, it's not like we'd be overriding a better English name to use it, or something... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 02:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
::So, care that we do it without needing a proposal agreement? {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}

No need for a proposal then.--{{User|Knife}} 03:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello,i dont know where the name "metallic goomba" came from,but their not called that,in the prima official super mario galaxy 2 guide theyre called Goombeetles.
{{unsigned|Yoshiyoshiyoshi}}

This is not called "metallic goomba"
in the ENEMY SECTION of the official super mario galaxy 2 game guide,they are called Goombeetles,so thats what their name should be,metallic goomba isnt even an official name
{{unsigned|Yoshiyoshiyoshi}}

==Name==

What is the official name of this thing?Prima has called them ''several''things.But in the enemy section of super Mario galaxy 2,they are called Goombeetles.I think they should be called that.
{{unsigned|Yoshiyoshiyoshi}}

Perhaps we should have gotten this in the first place, but can you get a scan proving your claim that this should be named Goombeetle? I can just as easily say that this is called Helmet Goomba without proof. If this thing really is called a Goombeetle in the enemies section of Prima, I suppose that would be the correct name.--{{User|Knife}} 23:47, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Well anyone got some proof?Iknow its called that..{{user|yoshiyoshiyoshi}}

You can't move the page without providing some kind of proof or without other users' approval.--{{User|Knife}} 20:16, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

But in my SMG2 Guide, They're called '''Goombeetles'''. Shouldn't we mention its SMG2 name? {{User:BoygeyDude/sig}}

Is the guide from Prima?--{{User|Knife}} 16:04, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure it is. :) {{User:BoygeyDude/sig}}

BTW, Here's proof. :) [[Image:GoombeetleProof.JPG|234px]] {{User:BoygeyDude/sig}}

The name has to come from an official Nintendo source.  Otherwise, it's not an official name.  Prima is NOT an official Nintendo source, last I've checked. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 23:14, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

i thought it was or at least anything after 2007 i believe is {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

Yeah according to this [[http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Citation_Policy#What_needs_References.2C_what_not.3F]] that Prima guide is official {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

Someone should have the official Nintendo Player's Guide for ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', just to be sure.  Of course, I don't know if one even exists. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 07:36, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Well it is a Prima OFFICIAL Gaming Guide. And on the front cover had the Official Nintendo Seal. :) {{User:BoygeyDude/sig}}

You mean the one from Nintendo power i think they quit doing those but anyway Prima is official so i guess Goombeetles is the correct name {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

In the guide if you go to Upside Dizzy's page the Green Stars are in the wrong spot. Green Star 1 is in the spot of Green Star 2 and Green Star 2 is at the end of the level. Official things always has the right information. I agree with M&SG but we have to go with the name Goombeetle because those other names didn't have some kind of source.{{User:YoshiGo99/sig}}

== Rename to Octobeetle? ==

I saw a video about the Super Mario Galaxy 2 Prima guide, and it calls them Octobeetles. Here's the redirect: (cur | prev) 23:45, June 29, 2016 The RPG Gamer (talk | contribs) . . (24 bytes) (+24) . . (Check the Super Mario Galaxy 2 Prima guide) 
Should it be moved to Octobeetle, given that it is the most recent name? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:32, April 7, 2019 (EDT)
:Both names seem to come from the same guide, so Octobeetle can just be added to the page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:19, April 7, 2019 (EDT)

== Goombeetles are goomba/buzzy beetle hybrids ==

You see: Goombeetles have the eyes if Buzzy Beetles, have helmets that resembles a Buzzy Beetle's shell. Even Thier name derives from buzzy beetles, so I'll be editing to prove that Goombeetles are hybrids between Goombas and buzzy beetles. [[Special:Contributions/185.69.145.70|185.69.145.70]] 08:03, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
:This will need further proof. Buzzy Beetles don't appear in the Galaxy games, red eyes is a very common trait and the helmets don't look that similar to me. The actual body structure of the enemy is clearly that of a Goomba with no actual resemblence of a Buzzy Beetle. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 08:58, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Don't you see goggle? Sure the helmets a different colour but it like a gray Buzzy Shell, just because Buzzy Beetles don't appear in the galaxy games doesn't mean their not a variant of it, ya know. [[Special:Contributions/185.69.145.70|185.69.145.70]] 09:41, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
:This is all based on assumptions though, and the resemblence is a subjective case. An official source in the article describes them as "robotic Goombas" with no mention of Buzzy Beetles at all. Unless an official source does make a clear connection, I'm not buying it. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 09:47, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
::Doesn't the Japanese name make an allusion to Buzzy Beetle? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:55, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
:::It makes an allusion to helmets, not necessarily to Buzzy Beetles. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 11:48, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
::::I see the resemblance, and from the screenshot provided it does resemble a Buzzy Beetle, but the helmet being metal and having paneling (which gives the Goomba an appearance of wearing a helmet, not a shell at all; it's not even a metallic blue) makes me pause somewhat in concluding this is a Buzzy Beetle variant. {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:19, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
::::There's definitely inspiration, but calling them "hybrids" is just silly when it's a standard helmet, for the reasons Mario said above. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:40, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
::::Come on, dude, Goombeetles have red eyes, a similar shaped helmet and the name Beetle is also in Goombeetles name and I know Goombeetles Japanese name makes an allusion to helmets rather than Buzzy Beetles, but Buzzy Beetles Japanese name also makes an allusion to helmets too! ..... maybe i got carried away....but still!{{unsigned|31.127.147.101}}
:::::Wearing a hat resembling another creature doesn't turn you into a hybrid. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:28, September 5, 2024 (EDT)

== I need your help with something ==

Meet me at Goombeetle's page [[Special:Contributions/86.162.66.23|86.162.66.23]] 12:42, July 18, 2024 (EDT)
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-==(First topic)==
 Shouldn't this be merged wth [[Goomba]]? Like the Pumpkin Head article, it's just a Goomba wearing an object on its head for proection... {{User:Mr. Guy/sig}}
 :Nah. You can tell they have a different physical appearance (Their eyes are Yellow and they lack the pointy fangs), and unlike the Pumpkin Heads, you can't remove their protections and turn them into normal [[Goomba]]. -{{User:Blitzwing/sig}}
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 ::::I see the resemblance, and from the screenshot provided it does resemble a Buzzy Beetle, but the helmet being metal and having paneling (which gives the Goomba an appearance of wearing a helmet, not a shell at all; it's not even a metallic blue) makes me pause somewhat in concluding this is a Buzzy Beetle variant. {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:19, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
 ::::There's definitely inspiration, but calling them "hybrids" is just silly when it's a standard helmet, for the reasons Mario said above. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:40, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
-::::Come on, dude, Goombeetles have red eyes, a similar shaped helmet and the name Beetle is also in Goombeetles name and I know Goombeetles Japanese name makes an allusion to helmets rather than Buzzy Beetles, but Buzzy Beetles Japanese name also makes an allusion to helmets too! ..... maybe i got carried away....but still {{unsigned|31.127.147.101}}
+::::Come on, dude, Goombeetles have red eyes, a similar shaped helmet and the name Beetle is also in Goombeetles name and I know Goombeetles Japanese name makes an allusion to helmets rather than Buzzy Beetles, but Buzzy Beetles Japanese name also makes an allusion to helmets too! ..... maybe i got carried away....but still!{{unsigned|31.127.147.101}}
 :::::Wearing a hat resembling another creature doesn't turn you into a hybrid. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:28, September 5, 2024 (EDT)
-You do realise Goombeetle has the name, Beetle in it? {{unsigned|31.127.147.101}}
-:Beetles are real-life insects, the name didn't originate with Buzzy Beetle. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 14:28, September 6, 2024 (EDT)
-::You know what I meant. {{unsigned|31.127.147.101}}
-:::My point was because the name "beetle" exists in reality, it doesn't always mean the name "beetle" in a Mario game solidifies a connection. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 14:37, September 6, 2024 (EDT)
-::::Hmmm, okay. That makes sense. {{unsigned|31.127.147.101}}
-:Also, my previous point still stands. [[Penguin Mario]] isn't an actual [[penguin]], he's a human in a costume, for example. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:24, September 6, 2024 (EDT)
-::sure it does...anyway. thanks for your time! you're a real helper! [[Special:Contributions/86.150.16.225|86.150.16.225]] ([[User talk:86.150.16.225|talk]]) 19:38, October 4 2024
 == I need your help with something ==
 Meet me at Goombeetle's page [[Special:Contributions/86.162.66.23|86.162.66.23]] 12:42, July 18, 2024 (EDT)
-== Goombeetles are goombas/Buzzy beetle hybrids 2.0 ==
-After done thinking about it, I've come to an idea. We should make them a derived subject from the buzzy beetle while still being a variation of Goomba. [[Special:Contributions/86.171.12.12|86.171.12.12]] 11:52, November 13, 2024 (EST)
-:This seems to be very speculative. Galoombas closely resemble [https://yunomi.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/9b22602c30bf636e1f7f26d53010e46d_s.jpg Japanese chestnuts], which is also significant to the history of [[Goomba]]s. They don't look anything like Buzzy Beetles, and there is no source that suggests they are related at all. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 13:13, November 13, 2024 (EST)
-::I thought this talk page and section were about [[Goombeetle]]s instead of [[Galoomba]]s? {{User:Arend/sig}} 13:15, November 13, 2024 (EST)
-:::I completely misread what article this was - my apologies. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 13:16, November 13, 2024 (EST)
-:::Speaking of which, couldn't this be part of [[#Goombeetles are goomba/buzzy beetle hybrids|the previous section with the exact same name]]? {{User:Arend/sig}} 13:18, November 13, 2024 (EST)
-Yes, obviously it is part of the previous section but that's not the point. Goombeetles are indeed [[Goomba]]s, but they're also very similar to [[Buzzy Beetle]]s in many ways. Not just Thier appearance, like Thier red glowing eyes and helmets(despite not being metallic blue), but they even have the name, [[Buzzy Beetle|Beetle]] in Thier name, Even Thier Japanese name says so, with Thier name being Mettobo(or metbo is it?) deriving from both [[Goomba|Kuribo]] and [[Buzzy Beetle|Mettobo]], it's fine if you disagree. I just want to check if you're sure about your decision. ([[User talk:31.127.147.101|talk]]) 19:56, December 11, 2024 (EST)