Editing Talk:Goomba (balloon)

I think we should put a picture as [http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/nsmbuenemyclose5.png], the current one has a very low resolution. --[[User:Sonic98|Sonic98]] ([[User talk:Sonic98|talk]]) 16:22, 7 February 2013 (EST)

== Super Mario Encyclopedia ==

Do they have any mention in the encyclopedia? I speculate, but they are possibly called '''Fusen Kuribo'''. And since the english encyclopedia takes the name from the wiki (only fitting name idea though), should we rename it to it Japanese name? {{unsigned|FanOfYoshi}}
:Is there any mention of them in the Prima guide? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:13, 24 December 2018 (EST)
::I don't own the Guide at all, sorry. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:15, 24 December 2018 (EST)
:::That was for any user to answer. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:23, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Yes, let the name from the encyclopedia be used. It is perfect the way it is. By the way, any word on the Stilt Guy and Shy Guy MK8 Models?--[[User:Hamshamcart|Hamshamcart]] ([[User talk:Hamshamcart|talk]]) 12:28, 24 December 2018 (EST)
::As per [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/52#Citing_the_Super_Mario_Encyclopedia this proposal] the english encyclopedia cannot be cited as the book directly plagiarizes from this wiki. (and other wikis to!) {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12: 33 24 December (EST)
:::Doomhiker, i was going to tell him first, but i was searching, so i was late. Anyways, @Doomhiker, have you any idea why they used "passed" instead of "red"? I'd allow part of the book to be cited though. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:38, 24 December 2018 (EST)
::::@FanOfYoshi they probably used ''passed'' instead of red because the winning option was the one that the creator of the proposer, Time Turner voted for. Also, you would need to launch a counter-proposal if you wanted part of the book to be cited. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12: 43 24 December (EST)
:::::Because of the nature of the proposal, there was no oppose option, it could only pass one way or another. I wouldn't recommend starting another proposal on the Encyclopedia, unless you want to shake up the wiki again. It likely wouldn't change anything anyway, given the amount of evidence there is for the plagiarism.
:::::Anyway, if someone has the Japanese Encyclopedia and it gives a name, I'm for using that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:49, 24 December 2018 (EST)
::::::And if anyone owns the English Prima guide for the game, that would be welcome, too. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:50, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Ugh, you guys are fighting like a cat and mouse. It sickens me and my men. Just accept the truth. There is no plagiarism, the encyclopedia was helping you. Let's get back to work on getting the models for Stilt Guys, the Mario Kart 8 Shy Guys, Toady's upgraded appearance, Bouncy Tuck, Fire Archy, Tenacious Tuck, and the Mega Grrrol (Or as you call it, Dai Goro). --[[User:Hamshamcart|Hamshamcart]] ([[User talk:Hamshamcart|talk]]) 12:57, 24 December 2018 (EST)
:This is the wrong place for this conversation. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:12, 24 December 2018 (EST)
:LinkTheLefty and/or Mister Wu can possibly provide us the name. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 15:35, 24 December 2018 (EST)
::@Alex95 what do you mean by "shaking up" the wiki? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:35, 16 January 2019 (EST)
:::@Doomhiker, wait, a counterproposal? I'd agree for a counterproposal, but i don't really know how to propose it... And what should i add as informations for the proposal... IMO, there should be 4 option. The first 3 ones are the same as the first proposal and the 4th one, is allowing the book to be cited minus the Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins pages. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:10, 16 January 2019 (EST) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:51, 16 January 2019 (EST)
::::Better idea: don't. Not only will it not pass given the margin of the original one (with most people who voted demonstrating a clear understanding of the situation), it'll just annoy people. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:46, 17 January 2019 (EST)
:::::So, is this was what Alex95 meant by saying "shaking up the wiki"? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:47, 17 January 2019 (EST)

== Pop this article ==
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{{ProposalOutcome|green|Pop it 8-0}}
Now that my proposal on the pipe Lakitu has passed, let's delve on this: This split really makes no sense. It's about as comparable as the Dragoneel situation, now that we have evidence that these Goombas are not separate species. If you're gonna argue with "Para-Kuri" or "Para-Bomb" from SMW, these were given clear distinctions. These Goombas are listed along normal Goombas in Encyclopédia (and IIRC, Mario Portal)

'''Proposer:''' {{User|FanOfYoshi}}
<br>'''Deadline:''' January 2nd, 2024, 23:59 GMT
===Pop it===
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per '''Pop'''-osal.
#{{User|Sparks}} These are just Goombas that float with balloons. When they land on the ground, they act like '''typical Goombas'''. Per FanOfYoshi.
#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per all; this is ''literally'' just a Goomba with a balloon strapped to it. This feels a little comparable to the parachute'd enemies in ''Maker 2'', where we don't exactly have a ton of articles for all the parachute enemies aside from the ones that have already appeared outside of ''Maker 2''. (Granted, this comparison would probably make more sense if there were more balloon enemies than just Goombas, but y'know...)
#{{User|Biggestman}} While i do have a slight personal connection to this stupid thing, it is still just a Goomba with a Balloon. Per all.
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Another one for the BJAODN archive. Per all.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all.
#{{User|Mushroom Head}} Per all.

===Let it soar free===
<s>#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Yeah, I don't really care. They still have unique looks and everything.</s>
===Comments===
<s>So, should we merge stuff like the Innertube Goombas if this passes? [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:56, December 19, 2023 (EST)</s>
:To be fair, these were distinguished from normal Goombas, unlike the balloon ones. Also, i know that might not have been your intent, but the "I don't really care" felt a little discourteous. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:11, December 19, 2023 (EST)

Camwoodstock mentioning the parachutes also makes me think why we don't have an article on the Parachute yet. The ''Mario Maker 2'' icons for the Parachute are currently awkwardly merged to the [[Parabomb]] gallery, and [[Parachute]] currently is a disambiguation page that doesn't even list the course element, even though [[Wings]] has a separate article. And Parachutes also appear in games outside of ''Mario Maker'' as well.<br>Another reason what makes me think this is because we don't have articles on the dandelion pappi from ''[[Super Mario Bros. Wonder]]'', nor any enemies that use these as parachutes, so I foolishly thought things like Dandelion Goomba were already merged to things like Parachute Goomba, when articles like those doesn't exist either. {{User:Arend/sig}} 17:57, December 19, 2023 (EST)
:Are we saying the Parachute itself should be its own article at any point, or not? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 05:16, December 20, 2023 (EST)
::I mean, if [[Wings]] got an article, why not Parachute? We don't need to go through a history of Parachute Galoomba and Parabomb again, but the enemies could be mentioned as part of the inspiration, and maybe the parachute that Goomba has in ''[[Mario Party 2]]'' and ''[[Mario Party 3]]''; other than that, the article itself could be about the course element from ''Super Mario Maker 2''. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:23, December 20, 2023 (EST)
:::Various items use them in ''[[Yoshi Topsy-Turvy]]'', as well, acting as a downward-moving counterpart to the [[Item Balloon]]s. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:58, December 27, 2023 (EST)

Withdrawing my vote. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 11:20, December 21, 2023 (EST)