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I've searched Google for both "Name Kuri" and "Name Quri" and I've found nothing. Can anyone confirm the name of these enemies? --[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] 03:25, 6 July 2006 (EDT)

Again, I would like to ask where this name originated, even if it's just a conjectural name. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

:I have both the NP and the Prima guides for SMS, but only Prima gives a name: Swoopin' Stu. [[User: Monty Mole|<span style="font-family:BrushScrD; color:#C0D9D9;"><font size="3"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font></span> (<span style="font-family:Vrinda">[[User talk:Monty Mole|Talk]]&middot;[[Special: Contributions/Monty Mole|Contribs]]</span>) 11:13, 29 October 2006 (EST)
::I thought Swoopin' Stus were the flying form of Strollin' Stus. That would make sense, right? -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
:::But why name it "Name Kuri"? That name seems highly obscure and doesnt make sense. &ndash; [[User Talk:Knife|Spike]][[Image:Spike Shield Badge PM.png]]
::::The "Name" is "Kurintly" unknown! Ha ha ha ha hooookay that wasn't funny. I agree with Spike, where'd that name come from? [[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 20:31, 29 October 2006 (EST)
:::::Son of Suns, that's a Swipin' Stu. Because they swipe Mario's Hat. [[User: Monty Mole|<span style="font-family:BrushScrD; color:#C0D9D9;"><font size="3"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font></span> (<span style="font-family:Vrinda">[[User talk:Monty Mole|Talk]]&middot;[[Special: Contributions/Monty Mole|Contribs]]</span>) 15:48, 30 October 2006 (EST)
::::::They're just like a Goomba, but they leap on Mario to attack. [[User:3dejong|3dejong]]

Name Kuri appeared in a startegy guide as well. [[User:Superchao|Superchao]] 20:24, 30 October 2006 (EST)

What about the flying "Strollin' Stus" that fly back and forth but don't attempt to steal Mario's hat? Are those "Swoopin' Stus"? -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
::Yup! I'm currently working on articles for all the "Stu"s. [[User:3dejong|3dejong]]

Still, this doesn't explain where the name came from! And Name Kuri just sound tooo weird{{User:Knife/sig}}

The flying Stus that don't steel your hat are called Flying Strollin' Stus. {{User:Bob Greenlake}}

I'm tired of asking. WHERE DID THE NAME COME FROM?{{User:Knife/sig}}

Superchao, the name comes from a strategy guide? Which strategy guide and could you post a copy? -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]] 01:45, 7 December 2006 (EST)

The Primagames guide. [[User:TheGreatBlockyBoo|TheGreatBlockyBoo]] 18:35, 19 December 2006 (EST)
== Spawn ==

What the? What's the source for this name? {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 17:18, 19 December 2006 (EST)

== The Stus ==

I have the Prima guide, so here are all the Stus.

Basic Stu = Strollin' Stu

Flying Stu = Flying Strollin' Stu

"Spawn" = Swoopin' Stu

Stus that steal your hat = Swipin' Stu

Those flippin' huge Stus that have the Strollin' Stus on their heads = Stackin' Stus (I think I made that one up, I'm not actually looking at the guide, I'm just remembered)

{{User:Mariofan132/sig}} at 5:49 PM

I made up the name "Stackin' Stu". And what about the flaming Stus? {{User:3dejong/sig}}

Okay, I didn't know these articles needed so much help.

*Strollin' Stu = Strollin' Stu
*Winged Strollin' Stu = Soarin' Stu
*Flamin' Stu = Smolderin' Stu
*Spawn = Swoopin' Stu
*Stealin' Hat Stu = Swipin' St
*Stackin' Stu = Stackin' Stu (correct ^_^)

That's offical. [[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 19:07, 19 December 2006 (EST)

WAHOO! Dunt dunt dunt! I GOT IT RIGHT! WOOT! :) :) :) :)! Lucky me! Confetti! Streamers! Cake! Uhh... OK. Sorry. Anyway, so we need to change titles to be canonical, correcto? {{User:3dejong/sig}}

This probably means they are related to Stus.{{User:Knife/sig}}

WHERE did this 'official' information come from? That's what I'd like to know. A Prima (or any non-nintendo source) guide could hardly be called official. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]] 01:54, 21 December 2006 (EST)

A Nintendo Power miniguide is where I got it. However, I am not sure that Swipin' Stu is correct beacause I found that out at Lemmy's Land. [[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 10:43, 21 December 2006 (EST)
:To be completely honest, these creatures don't look anything like Stus. And I guess we can settle there is no official name, if nobody can name an official source. [[User:Cobold|Cobold]] 10:16, 13 February 2007 (EST)

I don't know about the official english names, but the Japanese names for both the "stu" enemies and the "goop" enemy consist of the word "kuri" as well as another word which I would assume is an adjective. I think that at least points towards the two groups being related. 
My source is here: http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=143014
(the author of the walkthrough cites his source as a Bradygames Strategy Guide)

Has anyone created an article for the flying stu's (not the swipin' stu). Someone mentioned the name "soarin' stu", yet I can't find an article under that name or any other for the flying stu's. Is there simply no article for them yet? {{unsigned|Tykyle}}
:Check out [[Soarin' Stu]] for the one in the secret stage and [[Droppin' Stu]] for the ones on Pinna Beach Ep. 3. --[[User:Pseudo-dino|Soodo Dynomite]]

==You Sure?==

These goop monsters are called Swoopin' STUS? they are definitely NOT stus. I always thought they were called Goopies. Should I move to Goopy? --[[User:Pseudo-dino|THEY'RE NOT]] [[User talk:Pseudo-dino|STUS!!]]
:What I said before, they're definitely not Stus, but we don't know what they are instead. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:33, 6 March 2008 (EST)

I think tey are called Bwow-Wop becaues they keep making that sound. [[User:Mecha-Boss Unit]]
:Maybe goopies would work....{{User:CatJedi/sig}}

::I agree! :) Theze creaturez are NOTHING like boygeyz. (I find "boygey" moar respectful than "stu".) MAny reazons why:
*Boygey eyes are black & slanted. Theze things have white round eyes.
*Boygeys seem to be born moar naturally.
*Boygeys wear pink polkadotted pants & blue shoes. Swoopin-stus wear nothing; they don't even have feet!
*Swoopin-Stus DON'T have a nose at all.
*Boygeys aren't transparent.
*Boygeys are moar friendly than swoopin-stus. (I always see boygeys as kindhearted & misunderstood.)
*Swoopin-stus seem to lack intelligence & only live for a few seconds.
*Swoopin-Stus are as fragile as a bubble.
*As stated above, Swoopin-Stus are unable to squeak. They instead go "Bwowwop".

& there you have it. Also because of this, I refer to theze things as ''Goopers''. {{User:BoygeyMario/sig}}


==Toadstool Tour==
It says the name "Gooble" came from a scorecard in ''Toadstool Tour''. Is there any indication it was referring to these, and not, say, [[Glorpedo]] or [[Goop Generator]]? [[Eely-Mouth|There were some]] [[Plungelo|pretty baffling things]] [[Phantamanta|to make the]] [[Mecha-Bowser|scorecard]], (which seemed to be primarily characters and bosses, not generic enemies) so I wouldn't throw all possibility aside. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:31, 5 October 2017 (EDT)
:Well, "Glorpedo" already appears on the scorecard (according to the page's trivia), and it seems unlikely that there would be two separate names for the same subject. It's technically possible that "Glorpedo" actually refers to what we're currently calling Gooble and vice-versa, but I'd associate "Glorpedo" with the objects being launched as projectiles (like a torp'''edo'''). {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 20:40, 5 October 2017 (EDT)
::"Glorpedo" is a ''goo ball/bubble'' though, while "Gooble" shoots itself at Mario at an intense speed. "Glorpedo" in effect acts more like a bouncy ball. Granted, "Gooble" also looks somewhat bubblish, I suppose. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:44, 5 October 2017 (EDT)
:::Bumping this. Given it was a name on a scorecard with nothing attached to it, saying this is definitively Gooble is speculative, at best. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:33, 21 June 2018 (EDT)
::::I was wondering the same. Should we rename it to Swoopin' Stu again, even though they don't even look like a [[Strollin' Stu]]? (Super Mario Encyclopedia's english version is only for redirect references though. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:17, 7 January 2019 (EST)
:::::Is there a name in the Nintendo Power guide that we can use instead? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:24, 7 January 2019 (EST)
::::::The information in Super Mario Encyclopedia saying that these are called Goobles came from us. (no i don't own Super Mario Encyclopedia, but i found some scans on Google Books). We can't cite it, and the Nintendo Power Guide is actually a great idea. I found a video, but i'll have to look carefully. The quality isn't that good, but i hope i can find their name. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:44, 7 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::It was too small, so i can't tell, sorry. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:04, 7 January 2019 (EST)
::::::::Saw the above discussion, only Prima gives it a name, Swoopin' Stu. IMO, even though it doesn't look like a Strollin' Stu at all, the only actual name we have is Swoopin' Stu. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:12, 14 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::::The way to verify one way or the other would be to check the Japanese version of the scorecard and find which name was used there. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:40, 25 January 2019 (EST)
::::::::::Checked on model resource and the name of the objects are "namekuri", and some others are different but end up with "kuri". According to TCRF, Strollin' Stus and its variants have "Kuri" in their name, we're possibly intended to be named "Kuri" in the developpement, but ended up being "Kurin". Further more, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDVZSkalR-U a large Chestnut-like enemy which the object itself is called HinoKuri] can drop Strollin' Stus. I think it ended up being unused. Since it also drops Swoopin' Stus, this might be another indication that Swoopin' Stu we're POSSIBLY intended to be Strollin' Stu relatives before it was changed. (Name Kuri was thought to be made up but comes from the Swoopin' Stu model). Is Tramplin Stu an official name, or is it also a fan-made name? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:14, 25 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::Definitely fan-made. It also looks nothing like a Stu, beyond the optional chestnut-shaped helmet (which itself looks nothing like a Stu). Anyways, your development theory is additionally impossible due to pre-release screenshots and the Japanese name. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:41, 25 January 2019 (EST)
::::::::::::I actually think it's certainly ''plausible'', given that the English ''Super Mario Sunshine'' guides had access to development materials (most notably Wire Trap, but it's more obvious in the BradyGames and Versus guides, which reportedly had an almost entirely different set of enemy names that match internal ones). I wouldn't have thought of that, so well done there. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:13, 25 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::::However, we have development photos showing Strollin' Stus looking as they do in the final and Swoopidoos here as being even more amorphous than in the final. And let's not forget "Kug." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:49, 25 January 2019 (EST)
::::::::::::::Additionally, there [https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Sunshine/Unseen_Object_Features#NamekuriLauncherManager is an unused Swoopin' Stu launcher]. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:21, 26 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::::::Hmm, "Namekuri"...? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:34, 26 January 2019 (EST)
::::::::::::::::Yup! It doesn't sound too english, and rather sound non-sensical, just like [[Hatopop]]. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:14, 27 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::You're missing the point. It contains ''{{wp|Chestnut|Kuri}}'', much like ''[[Goomba|Kuribou]]'', ''[[Galoomba|Kuribon]]'', ''[[Wanderin' Goom|Kurikuri]]'', and ''[[Strollin' Stu|Kurin]]''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:40, 27 January 2019 (EST)
::::::::::::::::::The internal filename "Namekuri" might come from the word "Namekuji", which means "Slug", implying that they we're based off of a slug. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:48, 13 February 2019 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::::Yes. Basically, "slugoom," to Woolseyize a bit. It does ''kinda'' look like a slug, but does moreso in those early pre-release screenshots (when it would have been given said preliminary name). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:41, 13 February 2019 (EST)

Hold on, another overlooked detail. I'll need to be brief, but anyways, in the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPAQUvyKKX0 very early trailer], around Hinokuri, smaller Hinokuri-like creatures that seem to waver around in a sluglike manner can be seen, and seem to spawn from right underneath it. Given how Hinokuri spawns these Swoopy things and Strollin' Stus in the final's test area, it would surprise me if this wasn't an early rendition of one of these. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:51, 13 February 2019 (EST)

== Stu? ==

Why are these considered a variant of Strollin' Stus, besides the English name? I mean, they don't really look like each other, and their Japanese names are completely different. [[Special:Contributions/85.243.109.179|85.243.109.179]] 08:29, April 6, 2021 (EDT)
:Because that was a recent revision I had not caught. It's fixed now. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:14, April 6, 2021 (EDT)