Editing Talk:Golden Banana

==(First topic)==
I thought they were just regular bananas in the Country series. Donkey Kong 64 is the original appearance of these items, I believe.
[[User:Mariofan132|Mariofan132]] 12:10, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

The Bananas in DKC are Golden Bananas. DK64 references this at the beginning of the game when King K. Rool steals Donkey Kong's "hard earned hoard of Golden Bananas".--{{User|Knife}} 23:46, 20 February 2010 (EST)

== Scope ==
This page suffers from [[MarioWiki:Good writing#Everything but the kitchen sink|"everything but the kitchen sink"]] syndrome; much like [[Talk:Golden Mushroom#Split this page's distinct items|Golden Mushroom]] a couple of years ago, it has become a dumping ground for ''any'' gold-colored banana. Let's see what we've got here, shall we?

*A one-off ancient artifact from the ''DKC'' TV series that curses anyone who steals it. Haven't watched so I don't know if "Golden Banana" is the actual name of the artifact or if the term is used generically.
*The ''Donkey Kong 64'' collectible; retroactively part of DK's [[banana hoard]] and the game's equivalent of [[Power Star]]s or [[Power Moon]]s. Similar to the [[Giant Banana]]s in ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'' (the game, not the show) in that they have a Nintendo logo on them (though it's a different Nintendo logo).
*A collectible in ''Donkey Kong Barrel Blast'' that gives you fifty bananas when you get it (speaking of which, where are the ''DKBB'' sections for [[banana]] and [[Banana Bunch]]?). Don't know if it's actually called "Golden Banana" or not.
*The banana from ''Donkey Kong Country Returns'' in the [[Golden Temple]] that transports DK to a sky world with fruits 'n' stuff (or the [[Cloud]] world in the 3DS version). Called "a golden Banana" by the Prima guide (note that golden is lowercase). Referenced in the ''Returns''-themed [[3DS DK Jungle|DK Jungle]] track.
*The ''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' item "Gold Banana", a golden variant of the standard [[Banana Peel]] item from the ''Mario Kart'' franchise.
*A gold-colored banana bunch in ''Mario Party'' is the "treasure" in [[DK's Jungle Adventure]]. Referred to generically.
*In, ''Mario Party 4'', the banana peels thrown by [[Ukiki]]s that trip players in [[Tree Stomp]] have a gold variant that speeds them up instead. Called "golden banana" (lowercase) by the "advice" section of the explanation screen.
*In ''Mario Party 9'', the gold banana bunch in [[DK's Banana Bonus]] is worth ten bananas.

Here's a slightly rushed summation of how we could handle this:

*''DK64'' collectible stays here.
*TV series artifact could potentially get its own article. A case could be made for merging with the ''DK64'' collectible, since [[Crystal Coconut]]s also originate from that show and have an unrecognizable role (as well as no longer being a singular entity), but like I said, they have more in common with the ''DKC'' Giant Bananas than the cursed artifact from the show. Whichever the community prefers, I guess.
*''Barrel Blast'' collectible gets its own article.
*''Returns'' artifact gets its own article.
*''Mario Kart AGPDX'' item gets its own article.
*''MP1'' treasure does not mandate coverage in my opinion. It's inextricably tied to the board and not named to my knowledge.
*''MP4'' object is a minigame-exclusive subject and thus does not demand coverage any more than [[Flower Shower|Gold Flowers]] or [[Catch You Letter|love letters]]. At best it could share an article with the ''GPDX'' one, but I think even that's a stretch.
*''MP9'' object could potentially share an article with the ''Barrel Blast'' one due to similar function, but otherwise does not mandate coverage for the same reason as the ''MP4'' one.

Open to suggestions. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 18:05, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
:I agree, but the problem is that also opens inconsistencies with how bananas and peels share an article, despite many historic attempts to split them. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:10, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
:The concept of a gold-coated banana is borderline generic, most instances presented on this article have a gameplay purpose, and aren't tied to some recurring character or power-up (in the same way many instances of boomerangs in the Mario franchise relate to [[Boomerang Mario]] rather than the [[Boomerang]] power-up per se). To add to this, like Doc suggested, I think it's better the article for "common" bananas gets sorted out first and whatever is changed in that regard is reflected here as well. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:26, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
::I'm not sure what you're talking about. The proposals to split banana peels failed by consensus long ago, and there doesn't appear to be any ongoing debate regarding splitting them. That sounds pretty "sorted out" to me. I also don't see why the "banana vs. peel" issue is so relevant in the first place, ''GPDX'' and ''MP4'' are the only games with golden banana ''peels'', and both games treat the bananas and their peels interchangeably (which was the main argument against splitting banana peels). Technically ''DK64'' also has them, but they only appear in the hoard cave to represent the missing Golden Banana hoard; they have no significance and thus are not split-worthy. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:06, October 9, 2023 (EDT)