Editing Talk:Ghost

== Merge Ghost (''Wario Land II'' enemy), Ghost (''DK'' series), Ghost (''Luigi's Mansion'' series) into a single "Ghost" article ==

Now, some of these have scraped by for having some semblance of creative design, like WL4's ghost being a pirate and stuff, and the Yoshi's Story ghost being... unique, let's put it that way. However, the ''Wario Land II enemy'' ghost and the ''DK'' series' ghost are pretty clearly intended to just be generic ghosts, based on the combination of confirmed generic names and (in my opinion) unremarkable appearance.

Addendum: Turns out, the ghosts in the ''DK'' series were named ポワン (literally, "Point", some kind of French name) on the official Japanese King of Swing website. They were seemingly just called ''obake'' in dialogue in ''Jungle Climber'', but with that said, there ''is'' a ''Nintendō Kōshiki Guidebook'' for ''DK: Jungle Climber'', if anyone has it and is able to confirm they were still named Point.

'''Proposer''': {{User|DrippingYellow}}<br>

=== Merge all ===

<s>#{{User|Dark-Boy-1up}} Per all.</s>

#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per proposer.

#{{User|MegaBowser64}} Ghost.

=== Merge ''WLII'' ghost enemy with ''Luigi's Mansion'' series ghosts, leave ''DK'' series ghost ===

=== Merge ''DK'' series ghost with ''Luigi's Mansion'' series ghosts, leave ''WLII'' ghost enemy ===

#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Secondary choice. At the very least, these two are generic ghosts that look similar enough.

=== Do nothing ===

#{{User|Okapii}} idk I feel like the Luigi's Mansion ghosts are clearly their own thing, and clogging their page with generic ghosts from outside that series would bring down the page's overall quality. I very much doubt either the Luigi's Mansion or the DK King of Swing devs were designing their ghosts and went "you know, like the ones from Wario Land"

#{{User|Cadrega86}} Per Okapii.

#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Primary choice. With the knowledge that the ''DK'' series ghosts have a unique Japanese name (at least in ''DK: King of Swing''), I don't feel quite as comfortable with a merge to the ''Wario Land II'' enemy.

#{{User|Camwoodstock}} While merging stuff like real-world objects that happen to have vastly different uses in their appearances in the Mario series is fine by us (even if it does yield weird stuff like, say, the [[Koopa-Kola]] article--an article that seems to be about 3 distinct drinks that shared a name in early non-game content), merging the basis for ''an entire basis of a species'' (the ''LM'' ghosts) to just. Generic Ghost Enemy From A Donkey Kong Game. Feels much, much stranger. Ghosts have a pretty well-defined existence in the Mario franchise, so it feels kinda weird to have an article all melded together that's "there's a ghost in Wario Land II. there were like. 2 ghosts in the DK games. Here's a description for the entire Luigi's Mansion franchise and its relationship with ghosts.". And of course, there's the elephant of the room that are [[Boo|the]] [[Eerie|ghost]] [[Peepa|enemies]] in regards to the merged article--they aren't present on the mockup, and to be honest, we're not sure if that's necessarily even a bad thing, because that has the potential to be a proverbial nuke on that article's usefulness. A disambiguation page really isn't hurting anyone, it gives each of these individual ghosts a designated space on their own articles, and it's generally easier to navigate than trying to model ghosts in the Mario series as though they're one cohesive, franchise-wide consistent thing; this is not 2008, there absolutely is ''not'' a cohesive Mario universe.

#{{User|Arend}} Per all; the ghosts involved in the proposed merger are all very distinct from one another; with the ''Yoshi's Story'' one being green and serpentine in appearance, serving as Baby Bowser's ride in a boss battle; the ''Wario Land II'' one being an uncommon enemy that moves in particular patterns, and can turn Wario into a zombie; the ''DK: King of Swing'' and ''Jungle Climber'' one being another uncommon enemy but can either be a hazard or passed through depending on its opacity, even having a distinct name in the Japanese ''King of Swing''; and the ''Luigi's Mansion'' one being an amalgamation of ''every type of ghost in the series'', which would be odd in general to merge with other ghost types from outside ''Luigi's Mansion'' considering how distinct each ghost in ''Luigi's Mansion'' is. The ''Wario Land'' and ''DK'' ghosts are probably the most similar if we have to merge any of these, considering how both look like the generic white-sheeted ghost with hole faces, and both having angry eyes and pointy ends at the back of their head, but they still act different in the games they're from, and they have different Japanese names, so any visual similarities are most likely coincidental.

=== Comments ===

Also, I ''did'' mention the [[Boo]] in the intro, and I included almost every single character from the [[:Category:Ghosts|"Ghosts"]] category as either "derived subjects" or "notable members" in the infobox, following the template of the [[Frog]] page in how I structured it: the ones I didn't include were the subspecies of other ghosts. Did I mention the [[Frog]] article again? It feels like everybody is ignoring that comparison I made in the proposal... [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 10:57, January 17, 2024 (EST)